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Hi timbox,ta for your previous help with the girly electric probs by the way,got there in the end!I'm pretty sure these are oe kit.the bars are definitely triumph and the gubbins pictured screw into the handle bar ends which are threaded with the large thread as my previous pic.these bits sit outside the bars unlike a normal bar end arrangement,by about two inches old money,but are hidden within the grips,so unless you remove a grip,they look kinda like the end of the handlebar.Il take a pic showing what I mean tomorrow.its a pain in the ass,cos it means you can't just bung any other bar ends on,because they are an integral part of the bars on which the grips partially sit...