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Valve Clearance Check for Tigers and Shim Tool Directions

Started by Mustang, December 22, 2008, 06:39:12 PM

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Mustang

Quote from: "max montreal"hello!
i am sending my tiger 955i  to get a valve job before 30k miles . i would like to know how many hours the dealer should take to do the job.

ty Max
average price for 30k (24k actually )service depends on the dealer , but expect to pay somewhere between 300-500 US dollars

EvilBetty

That might be if the valves don't need adjusted.  From what I quoted I'd expect more of $800 to $1200.  That was why I finally just did it all myself, and I'm glad I did.

The 12K service is probably closer to $500.
There\'s no place like 127.0.0.1

2007 1050 Tiger, Jet Black
SOLD - 2005 955i Tiger, Lucifer Orange - SOLD

Mustang

Quote from: "EvilBetty"That might be if the valves don't need adjusted.  From what I quoted I'd expect more of $800 to $1200.  That was why I finally just did it all myself, and I'm glad I did.

The 12K service is probably closer to $500.
Damn I need to charge more  :ImaPoser

zombie2

Quote from: "EvilBetty"That might be if the valves don't need adjusted.  From what I quoted I'd expect more of $800 to $1200.  That was why I finally just did it all myself, and I'm glad I did.



Thats a lot of money , how can they justify that much??

Mustang

Quote from: "zombie2"
Quote from: "EvilBetty"That might be if the valves don't need adjusted.  From what I quoted I'd expect more of $800 to $1200.  That was why I finally just did it all myself, and I'm glad I did.



Thats a lot of money , how can they justify that much??
actually quite easy ......
most shops get close to $100 per hour shop rate and an 8 hour job is $800

that's why most shops won't touch a bike that is ten years old . The parts and labor cost is more than the bikes worth a lot of times .
If the owner walks then the shop is left with a bike not worth anything and they are out 8-10 hours labor .

EvilBetty

That's parts and labor too.  If they do it by the book, and include everything on the checklist $1200 could be pretty accurate, with valve shim adjustments.  If they do the coolant too, that's even better :)

I'm not sure how many hours I had in my 24K service.  I brought it down into my heated basement over the winter months and worked on it in my spare time.  When I ran into a problem, I had time to leave it tore apart while I ran to TigerTriple for advise, had to order a part, or had to swap shims with my dealer.

It was well worth the savings and for what I learned bout the bike.  I hadn't ripped into anything beyond belts and alternators on cars in years, and probably hadn't changed my own oil on my cars in a few years before taking this on.  It rejuvenated my mechanical abilities, and rose my confidence level, resulting in me working on more and more things myself.

My 1050 is now in pieces in my basement for upgrades (lights, heated gear wiring, etc).   The only bad part is waiting on parts from the UK.   :cry:
There\'s no place like 127.0.0.1

2007 1050 Tiger, Jet Black
SOLD - 2005 955i Tiger, Lucifer Orange - SOLD

Colonel Nikolai

I checked the valves on both tigger and the sprint having never done anything like that before (well, back in college I replaced an engine on a truck myself, but that was it). With some help from the people on this forum it wasn't that hard. A good mechanic who does this for a living should make this job fairly easy and $1200 seems steep, but then the manual does say to yank the cams which is unnecessary if you have Mustang's valve shim tool.

I was always pricing the work at around $350. I like the sound of thinking I saved myself $2k or so.

Thanks you guys! Especially Mustang. Wouldn't have tried it without you.

 :lol:
Mostly commuting around town on the Steamer these days.

EvilBetty

I was quoted $400 for just the valve check and adjustment.
There\'s no place like 127.0.0.1

2007 1050 Tiger, Jet Black
SOLD - 2005 955i Tiger, Lucifer Orange - SOLD

pizzaman383

It's time for my 12000 mile servicing but I didn't want to pay somebody to do it.

I checked my valves today and only two valves were out of spec.  One intake valve was a little too tight and needed a 2.5mm shim.  One exhaust valve was too loose and needed a 2.6mm shim.  

The interesting thing was after I changed the exhaust valve shim the clearance is now larger than it was!  I didn't measure the new shims because they were marked with their size.  Tomorrow, I'll pull out the shim, measure it, and maybe put back the original shim.  It was wierd!

Have any of you seen this happen?

EDIT:  I found that I had put the 2.50 shim where the 2.60 shim should go and vice versa.  Oops!  I switched them and the valves look good.
PizzaMan383
Black 2004 Tiger

Author: Passionate About Pizza Cookbook

akendall1966

Just got myself a mustang valve tool so ripped into checking the 595 (tiger next up) made the obligatory spread sheet, I know there is a ton out there but I made my own. What had not seen posted before which may be of help is I decoded the Triumph part no for 25mm shims, seems to be T1130 followed by the first 3 digits of the size.

 Not checked every one, but all I have checked against Ling part look up is correct. I have listed sizes and part numbers below, link to the parts look up at the end.

Size   Triumph Part Number
2.600   T1130260
2.650   T1130265
2.625   T1130262
2.500   T1130250
2.525   T1130252
2.550   T1130255
2.575   T1130257
2.675   T1130267
2.700   T1130270
2.725   T1130272
2.750   T1130275
2.775   T1130277
2.800   T1130280
2.825   T1130282
2.850   T1130285
2.875   T1130287
2.900   T1130290
2.925   T1130292
2.950   T1130295
2.975   T1130297
3.000   T1130300
http://www.lingstriumph.com/triumphcentralApp_core.0.LassoApp?pg=nav&sectnum=f2cfc240cbb78b1c&-session=Triumph:534322E9054cf311F0JSWx318798
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cba191

Note to self. 

Hey the airbox is off.  Let's pull the clutch cable and take it to the shop so that I can have some new ones made.

Now, let's dig in to the valves...

Crap.  can't change into a higher gear now.

Now I have to wait until Wednesday to get the cables back.
'02 Tiger.  She's the awesome sauce

Sin_Tiger

Quote from: cba191 on March 16, 2014, 08:59:29 AM
Crap.  can't change into a higher gear now.

Now I have to wait until Wednesday to get the cables back.

Know that feeling  :augie
I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

iansoady

Quote from: cba191 on March 16, 2014, 08:59:29 AM
Note to self. 

Hey the airbox is off.  Let's pull the clutch cable and take it to the shop so that I can have some new ones made.

Now, let's dig in to the valves...

Crap.  can't change into a higher gear now.

Now I have to wait until Wednesday to get the cables back.

If you mean so you can turn the engine via the back wheel, why do you need the clutch cable?
Ian.

1931 Sunbeam Model 10
1999 Honda SLR650

cba191

Just that I can't get it into anything higher than 2nd. Maybe getting it off the stand will let me do it.
'02 Tiger.  She's the awesome sauce

iansoady

You should be able to change right through the box if you move the back wheel backwards & forwards while you put pressure on the gear lever.
Ian.

1931 Sunbeam Model 10
1999 Honda SLR650