Im not the guy that wants the latest greatest everything. Far from it. More like the guy that says "hey take care of that 993 turbo" I plan on owning it in 15 years. That def. was the case for me with the 1050. Kind of thanks, but no thanks. My Girly is great
BUTTTT. The 800 really has me thinking. Will have to throw a leg over it before I start selling off the gun collection.
How does the physical size compare to the Girly? My first concern was the weight of the 800.
I am in about the same conundrum. The 800XC is attractive because I am doing lots of off road stuff and have been on about 6 rides this year with a buddy who rides a BMW X-Challenge. Needless to say I can not keep up with him and go where he goes.
The weight is a concern. It is about 50lbs lighter than my Girly but a nice KTM would be much lighter still. I could keep the Girly and get a KTM or other lighter more off road bike. ( That is if I had money ;>( )
But at these specs the BMW F800GS might be a better bike. Depends on how much cheaper the 800XC ends up being. The F800GS is about 15 lbs lighter than the 800XC.
Love my Girly but still want a lighter bike.
Cheers!
tett
Quote from: "brad1098"Im not the guy that wants the latest greatest everything. Far from it. More like the guy that says "hey take care of that 993 turbo" I plan on owning it in 15 years. That def. was the case for me with the 1050. Kind of thanks, but no thanks. My Girly is great
BUTTTT. The 800 really has me thinking. Will have to throw a leg over it before I start selling off the gun collection.
How does the physical size compare to the Girly? My first concern was the weight of the 800.
Quote from: "tett"The F800GS is about 15 lbs lighter than the 800XC......
Buy the 800 Tiger, leave the tent at home and spend some of what you saved on a bivvi bag. Job Done!! :ImaPoser
Its tempting indeed! My riding partner sold his KLR and got a f800GS last year to match his 1200GS. Rides the 800 most the time now & considering selling the 1200. Ive swapped him the 06 Girly for a few 100 miles & like the 800 ok, but my inclination is to go tigerXC. Love that triple!! I could simplify things considerably (EXPENSIVE having 4 bikes!) by selling my KLR, Uly & Girly & just having the Tiger 800 & the ST1300 left. I think the XC will do everything I want to do on 2 wheels. My hesitation is first year models inevitably have 'teething' issues. So will likely wait for 2nd year model to reconsider options. Any counter arguments to the "first year model" concerns ??
These days I would not be concerned with the first year.
I was really wanting it to be substantially lighter than the f800 hence the argument for the 675. With only 94hp the 675 would have been ideal. But marketing genious says we underlings wont buy a 675cc when the competetion has an 800cc bike on the market....brilliant
Similar to when the 1050 came out. I saw an interview with the chief designer, he said "well nobody takes the Tiger off-road, so we took all of that out of the new 1050"
Hey Brad - yeah, I wish it were a bit less hefty too. But I'll take the 50# reduction - not all that much heavier than my KLR, and still lighter than the Girly. (tho I have really come to appreciate her of late) Trying to rein in my bike lust for now, but want to reduce my inventory & have fewer mechanical apperatuses in my life, thus going from 3 bikes to 1 is enticing. (At least thats a good rationalization to try on my wife) I know the 800GS had some early model issues (rear bearings etc) and dont want to be on the consumer end of 'beta testing' these things. I agree - 675 would have been plenty of ponies for my riding interests. Well...got the winter to ponder the possibilities - will wait til spring & more info to make any decisions. What are your inclinations ???
love my Girly got her near where I want her. Just been on the Triumph web site and added all the farkles I wanted to the xc and the cost was £2900 thats cooled off the ardour some what :oops: plus the cost of the bike - part ex of Girly still recon I would have to come up with about 5.5-6k. thats lots of tours cheers Spud :wink:
15lbs? Shit, go on a diet! WTF? Doesn't matter which bike you get. You're still going to buy all the unobtainium bash plates, crash bars, hard cases, etc for it so you can pretend you're Charlie Boorman as you ride through the Starbucks parking lot.
Besides, bike manufacturers are notorious for lying about the real weight of their bikes.
FWIW, I've ridden the BMW800GS and the big Katoom. Those bikes do nothing for my soul.
Quote from: "JetdocX"15lbs? Shit, go on a diet! WTF? Doesn't matter which bike you get. You're still going to buy all the unobtainium bash plates, crash bars, hard cases, etc for it so you can pretend you're Charlie Boorman as you ride through the Starbucks parking lot.
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Quote from: JetdocX15lbs? Shit, go on a diet! WTF? Doesn't matter which bike you get. You're still going to buy all the unobtainium bash plates, crash bars, hard cases, etc for it so you can pretend you're Charlie Boorman as you ride through the Starbucks parking lot.
personaly, i prefer tully's :roll:
Quote from: "airknocker"personaly, i prefer tully's :roll:
Whoa! Dude, you are my new hero. Charlie was so last week. :shock:
:lol: ------------------- dont make me post that song thing again :wink:
Go on, post it ... POST IT!!! :ImaPoser
Quote from: tettThe F800GS is about 15 lbs lighter than the 800XC.
Love my Girly but still want a lighter bike.
Cheers!
tett
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BMW F800GS Usable tank volume 16.0 l
Tiger 800XC Fuel Tank Capacity 19.0 litres (5.0 US gals) thats 6.6lbs
not being negative to the BMW, just clearin up the weight thing !!
if you can do it, get the KTM and keep yer Tigger :D
KK
Quote from: "KuzzinKenny"BMW F800GS Usable tank volume 16.0 l
Tiger 800XC Fuel Tank Capacity 19.0 litres (5.0 US gals) thats 6.6lbs
not being negative to the BMW, just clearin up the weight thing !!
if you can do it, get the KTM and keep yer Tigger :D
KK
Fuzzy math there, Kuz. 5 gallons is a lot closer to 30lbs than 6.
Quote from: Bixxer BobGo on, post it ... POST IT!!! :ImaPoser
ok, http://www.saichotictech.net/Leekspin.html (http://www.saichotictech.net/Leekspin.html) :lol:
ya know, i wish some of our norwegian friends could tell us what they are singing about.
Quote from: "aeronca"Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"Go on, post it ... POST IT!!! :ImaPoser
ok, http://www.saichotictech.net/Leekspin.html (http://www.saichotictech.net/Leekspin.html) :lol:
ya know, i wish some of our norwegian friends could tell us what they are singing about.
If it's anything, it's Finnish, not Norwegian...
Quote from: "JetdocX"Quote from: "KuzzinKenny"BMW F800GS Usable tank volume 16.0 l
Tiger 800XC Fuel Tank Capacity 19.0 litres (5.0 US gals) thats 6.6lbs
not being negative to the BMW, just clearin up the weight thing !!
if you can do it, get the KTM and keep yer Tigger :D
KK
Fuzzy math there, Kuz. 5 gallons is a lot closer to 30lbs than 6.
Yebbut 3 litres, the difference, is!
Quote from: "ChazzyB"Quote from: "JetdocX"Quote from: "KuzzinKenny"BMW F800GS Usable tank volume 16.0 l
Tiger 800XC Fuel Tank Capacity 19.0 litres (5.0 US gals) thats 6.6lbs
not being negative to the BMW, just clearin up the weight thing !!
if you can do it, get the KTM and keep yer Tigger :D
KK
Fuzzy math there, Kuz. 5 gallons is a lot closer to 30lbs than 6.
Yebbut 3 litres, the difference, is!
I got that too; it's a Kenny thing, a lot gets lost in the translation :lol:
Quote from: "aeronca"ok, http://www.saichotictech.net/Leekspin.html (http://www.saichotictech.net/Leekspin.html) :lol:
:BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead :BangHead
:lol: :lol: :lol: you asked for it :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"Quote from: "ChazzyB"Quote from: "JetdocX"Quote from: "KuzzinKenny"BMW F800GS Usable tank volume 16.0 l
Tiger 800XC Fuel Tank Capacity 19.0 litres (5.0 US gals) thats 6.6lbs
not being negative to the BMW, just clearin up the weight thing !!
if you can do it, get the KTM and keep yer Tigger :D
KK
Fuzzy math there, Kuz. 5 gallons is a lot closer to 30lbs than 6.
Yebbut 3 litres, the difference, is!
I got that too; it's a Kenny thing, a lot gets lost in the translation :lol:
I'm feelin a bit Fuzzy at the mo as i've got the cold !! :lol:
it made sense in my head :?
KK
ps the good thing about a monitor is, its easy to clean when you've just sneezed all over it :shock: :oops: :roll:
Quote from: "JetdocX"Those bikes do nothing for my soul.
This is something that really needs saving :wink: :D Hallelujah
Guess I'll be first in line for a new one afterall! :D :D :D
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Look out for falling branches..... :(
When i meant lighter i meant like 100 pounds lighter.
My 320 pound SV650 was addicting and my Husky 610 as well.
New TE610's are 310lbs.
In reality a midweight bike with 2011 technology!! 400lbs. should be within reason right?
Quote from: "JetdocX"(http://jetdoc.smugmug.com/Other/Way-out-there/fortune/1087759533_oaAK2-M.jpg)
i got one O them !! mines turned out to be a couple O apples :( just my luck, eh !!
KK
Quote from: "brad1098"In reality a midweight bike with 2011 technology!! 400lbs. should be within reason right?
Not if you want it to carry 60kgs of luggage + pillion without snapping the sub frame and put down 95bhp. Those things mean you have to build things stronger thus adding more weight. Also you're comparing a single cylinder engine (TE630) to a triple.
I think they've done well to get the weight close to the F800GS which, as we all know, is a twin cylinder.
Quote from: "brad1098"How does the physical size compare to the Girly? My first concern was the weight of the 800.
I think the size is more important than the weight as any woman will tell you. :roll: What I mean is that you can cope with a weighty bike if it's low to the ground like my Scrambler (205kgs dry). I feel confident taking that into the unknown http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost ... ount=11214 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14348332&postcount=11214) because I can easily paddle it through the tricky sections.
So my concern will be ; is the XC too tall for me at 5'11"?
Also, if I can get my scram into all these out of the way places with its 19" front wheel and no ground clearance, why do I need the XC anyway?
Quote from: "blacktiger"Quote from: "brad1098"So my concern will be ; is the XC too tall for me at 5'11"?
Also, if I can get my scram into all these out of the way places with its 19" front wheel and no ground clearance, why do I need the XC anyway?
... and the more you go to those 'out of the way' places with the Scrambler - the more you bond with him! The more you want to prove to all, you don't need to be kitted out like Ewan or Charlie...
Heck, just think about it - Ted Simon aka. 'Jupiter's Travels' - he rode to ALL kinds of remote places! What does Wikipedia say:
a four-year journey through 126,000 km across 45 countries on a Triumph Tiger 500 cc motorcycle from 1973 to 1977.Not a Tiger 800XC...So to answer your question in my opinion:
If you can afford to keep only ONE:
- I'd keep the Scrambler 'cos it means more to have done it on a Scrambler than a fully pledged/certified 'Adventure Bike'.
If you can afford them both:
- Get the XC for the long term visions and keep the Scrambler for emotions.
I currently have the Tiger T400. It's too high really for me (5'7" 30" inseam) and too heavy (240 kg) - especially when it gets slippy...
I've order the XC ABS (with lowered seat :-), and was informed some time in March/April 2011.
I also have a dream to get a Scrambler and make it my emotional Adventure Bike - something like what TpR (http://www.tpr-italianfactory.com/) in Italy have done:
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Fact is - they are BOTH wonderful machines! Oh dear - man and their toys....
That modified Scrambler is one good looking bike. Bad ass fabulous, me think.
the new tiger looks awesome,but the Girly will always be missed! :(
Quote from: "JetdocX"Guess I'll be first in line for a new one afterall! :D :D :D
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I got one too, had to change my underwear :lol:
Three rules of getting more mature:
Never pass a WC without using.
Never waste a hard on.
NEVER trust a fart!