If you've had both versions, how big a step up is the XCX from the old XC? Bear in mind I don't rag around, and am unlikely to do much in the way of rough terrain....
Mat-tiger`s got the xcx...had a go shortly after he got it...lovely bike :)
Had a run on MT's X. There is a perceptible diffirence with the engine delivery, noticeably smoother and perhaps a little more punch in the mid range.
If I owned an XC already I probably wouldn't change up until it was time to get something newer. If I was changing up from an older bike or it was going to be my only or main bike I wouldn't hesitate.
Funny that. The 800XC actually was the driver for me to get my Steamer. I did a test ride and fell in love with the engine. The 900 is very different, but I still like it. And it was considerably cheaper. ;) Guess the XCX is a step up, but the best way to find out how much is a case of talking your dealer into lending it to you for a day. Right?
I rode one a few months ago. Really impressed me.
Quote from: ghulst on June 29, 2016, 03:58:08 PMbut the best way to find out how much is a case of talking your dealer into lending it to you for a day. Right?
We now have to pay £10 for a test ride at the dealer, still a cheap mornings entertainment tho with juice thrown in for good measure.
Bixxer, If you ask mat-tiger nicely he may just let you have a go on his...
Quote from: PeteH on June 30, 2016, 12:42:19 AM
Bixxer, If you ask mat-tiger nicely he may just let you have a go on his...
The only downside is you have to take me pillion :ImaPoser
Quote from: PeteH on June 30, 2016, 12:42:19 AM
We now have to pay £10 for a test ride at the dealer,
That's weird... Doesn't he want to sell the machine? I mean, we sign for liability to the tune of €1000, but they don't charge us to ride...
Quote from: ghulst on June 30, 2016, 07:18:22 AM
That's weird... Doesn't he want to sell the machine? I mean, we sign for liability to the tune of €1000, but they don't charge us to ride...
The £10 covers insurance and reduces your liability from a £1000 to £250 so I reckon it may well be worth it.
I had a look round the dealers in Peterborough today.
The NTX is a nice bike and has a very good riding position but build quality isn't a patch on Triumph. The Yamaha is well made for the price, but it's just a bike. I was surprised by the big Kwak, it ticks most boxes; lighter, powerful, a bit of character and a comfy pillion seat. Comes with luggage too. Then I was drawn to the dark side....
http://www.bmwapprovedusedbikes.co.uk/bmwuk/aub/bike_details/0,,1260___,00.html?currentCh=_V0IxMDQ1MDA3Q1pYNDI1MTA=#
If you were going to be seduced, that'd be the one to do it :blah
Pay for a test ride....??? Hmmm. Isn't all this semantics, because we love the ride we are on.
Could almost be a separate thread but I'd have no problem paying for a test ride in fact when I went out on a demo XR last year and they explained there wasn't any fuel in it they were shocked when I said that's fine.
There are hoards of wannabe professional test riders have a look at U Tube it's become a cult,I've no doubt if you buy the bike they won't charge you if it was me I'd make it £25 and then that would sort out the time wasters.
Admittedly I've been riding bikes a long time so I know what I want but even when i've been seriously interested in a bike never needed to ride one for more than an hour to know if it works for me/us.
My main riding buddy has landed the dream job of driving the Ducati test fleet all over Canada. When the demo day at each dealership across the country is over he gets to pick any bike and thrash the nuts off it. Demos here are n/c if part of the fleet demo day. It's up to the individual dealer after that what rules they apply with their own inventory.
Quote from: Chris Canning on July 01, 2016, 09:56:22 AM
Could almost be a separate thread but I'd have no problem paying for a test ride in fact when I went out on a demo XR last year and they explained there wasn't any fuel in it they were shocked when I said that's fine.
There are hoards of wannabe professional test riders have a look at U Tube it's become a cult,I've no doubt if you buy the bike they won't charge you if it was me I'd make it £25 and then that would sort out the time wasters.
Admittedly I've been riding bikes a long time so I know what I want but even when i've been seriously interested in a bike never needed to ride one for more than an hour to know if it works for me/us.
Same here. It's superglue; sort of an instant bond thing. We were thinking of trading the Blackbird one time and test rode a 1200RT and knew before we got to the end of the road that it wasn't for us, rode an FJR1300 which took 10 miles to sasy it does nearly everything the Blackbird does only worse, went home and spend £500 quid on the 'Bird. The Tiger took a run to the petrol station and back to know it was right. If it doesn't grab us instantly, it's a no.
Having said that, I can think of one time where it wasn't; I had an 1100GS for three days. Irode it home, chucked iton the drive and thought "bloody tractor, why would anyone...." but fter using it for work for three days I sort of "got" it. didn't buy it though :*&*
Bixxer, I know you didn't get chance last weekend but you're more than welcome to take my beloved XCX out for a test ride anytime! :thumbsup
For my two-penneth worth, having owned the Girly for over five years, (with only the usual charging system issue during all that time :icon_sad:) It was quite a departure for me to go for the Xcx. I originally test rode an Xc at my local dealership (no charge :m) and took a liking to it instantly. With the NEC bike show just around the corner (at the time) I waited to see what the new Xc & Xr models would have to offer before making a decision.
For me the Xcx gives me just what I need, it eats up road miles with good economy, it's comfortable, (although the sheepskin does come out if I'm riding for more than 3 hours straight, but that might be just a personal thing. :icon_redface:) there's no question that it's a lighter, more agile bike than the 955i, which is useful when commuting in town's & cities, with it's selectable (& tuneable) abs & traction control, it brings technology into the mix in line with other manufacturers. The guys have previously mentioned the gearbox which has a smoothness which is a definite joy compared to the clunckyness of the 955i. And for me (which is why I went for the Xcx version) is the WP suspension. I do some off-road & trail riding from time to time and it's nice to have the ability to tune the suspension to my riding style. This feature is also very attractive for those who use the Xcx purely on road as well! :icon_biggrin:
All in all (for me at least) this adds up to just what I need from my bike. But we are all different, so give it a test ride along with the Xr variant, which if off road isn't going to be your thing, may offer a more viable solution. :thumbsup
Hey, but as long as you stick with Triumph, whatever decision you make will be fine with the members of this forum! :icon_salut:
Quote from: nickjtc on July 04, 2016, 01:13:08 AM
My main riding buddy has landed the dream job of driving the Ducati test fleet all over Canada. When the demo day at each dealership across the country is over he gets to pick any bike and thrash the nuts off it. Demos here are n/c if part of the fleet demo day. It's up to the individual dealer after that what rules they apply with their own inventory.
That's what I did for 3 years in the UK!! and even now could have bought a Multistrada at a errrr discount and bought the XR instead to say it registered about 9.9 on the Richter scale would be an understatement but it's a better bike simple as that,and why I have become increasingly frustrated with Triumph because their becoming copiers and hence always a couple years behind the game,with possibly the exception of the 675 triple.
True Chris, but then again (as I understand it), they're just trying to keep the UK adventure market happy whilst putting their main effort into the cruiser/retro range as that's where they see the money being.
It would be interesting their income broken down by bike category I think.
Well, I now have a plan in place which includes letting the old Girl go. The deliberation starts; a low miles XCX or an 09 GS with around 12k on it....
The GS is cheaper by a good margin.... I need to do a couple of decent test rides I think.
The GS gets me more or less what I have now, but a bit less power (not that I use anywhere near all of the Tiger's most of the time) and electric suspension (I know, more to go wrong...) but most importntly comfy pillion set. Having said that she's having trouble coming to terms with actually sitting on one in the first place.
The XCX ticks most boxes but I KNOW I'll get grief every time she swings a leg over it because the pillion just isn't up to it. But there again, she almost never comes out anymore so.....
This'll run and run.....
Bix mate you've lost the plot mate Buy a GS by all means but With ESA :bug_eye are you mad,a stock genuine replacement shock is 1800 quid fitting is extra sir that's just the rear although Wilbers do do a replacement :icon_wink: but they don't come at Hagon prices.
Ask Tim he's been all around the houses and ended back up with a 955 if your looking at a GS buy basic not a case of more to go wrong it's about avoiding a money pit and why I had to go to the hassle of ordering my XR as almost a one off because BM are hell bent on selling their bikes with all the bells and whistles and bugger the poor sods 3/4/5 years down the food chain.
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on July 25, 2016, 10:12:23 PM
.......but most importntly comfy pillion set. Having said that she's having trouble coming to terms with actually sitting on one in the first place.
....... But there again, she almost never comes out anymore so.....
I feel your pain here, Bob. Choices, choices. However (and this is easy for me to say having become newly single again, and not being in a long term relationship) if you make profound choices on the basis of what might happen, and what might suit your partner, instead of what BOB wants, you face the possibility of regretting it.
I put up with the foibles of the Triumphs because frankly I have zero interest in riding one of the most common bikes out there. Which is why I would never buy another BMW, no matter how 'good' they are.
I cant really comment objectively, its a bit personal with me and I would rather ride an Enfield than a Bavarian Massey Werguson. I do see the attraction though, and to be fair a 2009 GS should be relatively safe, apart from the ESA issue which Chris has mentioned, I too would seek out a non-esa version, maybe even a non-ABS version if such a thing exists on that year, but then again I would probably go for a Stelvio instead anyway
A friend took an RT out for a test recently. A few issues with it,which would of cost quite a bit to sort. He bought a Kawasaki GTR1400.
Quote from: nickjtc on July 26, 2016, 05:18:34 AM
if you make profound choices on the basis of what might happen, and what might suit your partner, instead of what BOB wants, you face the possibility of regretting it.
And untill you work out that's not the way to go you'll always be on your own,my other half is my best biking mate,as she stepped off the back of the XR on Sunday 'You've got to get an Ohlins on this bike this stock stuff is rubbish and we need to go back to the stock screen ' no mention that I'd had the bike on the stop at one stage which I can assure you even two up is nothing short of warp speed,having already ridden 250 miles on the Tiger the day before with both of us on it,I've ridden many a bike that worked for me and didn't for her top of the heap was the 105p Sprint :icon_frown:
Thanks guys, well thought out answers as usual.
When the dust settles it'll almost certainly be the 800. We can explore aftermarket pillion seats if she needs me to, but another point came up which is definitely in the 800's favour and that is length. Ideally it should go in my box trailer; if it does (the 955 does but only just and its a heavy pig to load and unload) that's a big tick because it can go on holiday with us :nod
It's going to take a bit of work to put the Girly back to more or less standard before I sell her but the extras, like the Hagon, will bring sensible money later on, but I'll probably leave the crash bars on because they are big selling point on top heavy bike.
I've just got an 800 and already find the seat less comfortable than the steamer, been looking at sending it to this fella in the winter when it's tucked up tight in the garage.
http://www.elsemade.com/page16.html (http://www.elsemade.com/page16.html)
Wisbech ........... not far for you.
Bix
You haven't thought about or ridden a new 1050 Sport then.
The 1050 sport does look like a finalised and fully developed version of that bike at last. How about the other 800 variants like the XRT etc?
I saw an article in Bike magazine a month or so ago that had a showdown between all the adventure bikes and the tiger didn't do badly on pillion score from memory. Unfortunately my copy got soaked on the Northumberland trip, but it might be worth a look if you can find another.
GavD - Did you see that you can get you saddle finished in glitter-metallic pink / purple from that website you posted... :love10 :love10 :love10
Quote from: Nick Calne on July 26, 2016, 05:44:18 PM
GavD - Did you see that you can get you saddle finished in glitter-metallic pink / purple from that website you posted... :love10 :love10 :love10
Which should match my new leathers
:bug_eye
:augie Don't tell anyone, but when I had a YZF750 that had a dream machine Marlboro paint job, and the red was more like dynarod orange, I had a set of leathers like these only the colours were orange/black/gunmetal.
Sorry Bixxer, hijacked your thread .............. I don't have a two peneth to put into the BMW/Triumph debate so I'll shut up. Never ridden a Beemer.
Quote from: Nick Calne on July 26, 2016, 05:44:18 PM
The 1050 sport does look like a finalised and fully developed version of that bike at last. How about the other 800 variants like the XRT etc?
I saw an article in Bike magazine a month or so ago that had a showdown between all the adventure bikes and the tiger didn't do badly on pillion score from memory. Unfortunately my copy got soaked on the Northumberland trip, but it might be worth a look if you can find another.
GavD - Did you see that you can get you saddle finished in glitter-metallic pink / purple from that website you posted... :love10 :love10 :love10
The Tiger came top in the pillion ride followed by the XT1200 in that shootout in the Bike mag
So there you go Bixxer. An 800 in pink/purple/dynarod orange is our collective advice.
My money would be on a low mileage model XC with ABS and pre locked down ECU. Fully adjustable and rebuildable suspension.
Low centre of gravity guff aside, you'll soon get tired of shoving a 1200 GS around and having tried a range of ages, the gearchange is still a bit Massey Ferguson even on the newer ones.
The 800 by contrast is a very sweet and slick unit. I'm not sure if it's the same mag Nick's talking about but the Aug Bike rates the 800 pillion as the best overall and being separate the rear pad is easy to swap / rebuild.
Quote from: Chris Canning on July 26, 2016, 04:48:02 PM
Bix
You haven't thought about or ridden a new 1050 Sport then.
No, I hadn't Chris. I'd thought it was just a re-warm of the old one and is just as tall, big and heavy as the Girly. Is it worth a shot then?
Must be two years ago(probably longer)when I started looking for some thing to not exactly replace our 955 but certainly to run along side as the Tiger was starting to show its age and I saw no point in getting rid because value wise I doubt if it would buy me a bus ticket on the outer circle if I sold it 😀
We had ridden various Multistrada's and they just didn't work for us,the 1050 most certainly got the job done,I remember posting before saying if the old 955 had thrown a rod I'd have no problem buying one because it worked from the off.
But that was the first 1050 sport the latest is a different ball game with various engine maps etc,to be honest I should have bought one it's the sensible option but just couldn't turn down the option of the XR with heaps of HP and even though I own one I could well imagine plenty of folk would be horrified with the new BM because its gung ho and in your face.
What I noticed or didn't :icon_redface: did the old 1050 sport Rev to 10,000? Because looking at the new one which while in a straight race over a few miles the XR would no doubt blow its doors off in the real world of ownership and travel etc I'd be amazed if there was much in it.
The 1050 would be my first port of call before doing anything,sorry this 800 thing doesn't do a dam thing for me it's neither fish nor fowl ok for the kids who are doing the sensible thing on the way up,but two up with some gear!! We came across such on Friday on the out skirts of Newtown couldn't hold a candle to my old 955 although I admit mine ain't stock.
I'd also ride that Yamaha Triple its a bit Christmas cracker quality but Jeeze it's good money and there's no smoke without fire because so many folk talk well of it.
Re the GS even though I own a boxer I just don't get the GS thing,yea I know their practical and effiecent but Jeeze their as bland as dishwater,regardless I look forward to your buying journey :icon_biggrin:
If you want that performance edge :iagree with Chris on the the latest 1050 Sport, they've really taken all the comments to heart and its now a well refined and dare I say it quite an attractive looking bike, I was never in :love10 with the looks of mine to be honest.
Been to Lings and looked at one Chris. It's a nice bike so am likely to test ride one. Looks good in matt black with the flurescent green highlights. That's a small front wheel though????
Going back later this afternoon with the good lady so we'll see.
Wish I'd gone in yesterday though. IT wasn't on the list till I saw this one and bloke in front of me had just bought it. White Exploder with panniers, 5k miles, £8,300 and it was mint. I'd have probably chucked my whole tick list in the bin and bought it.
Edit: that front wheel is 17", just looks a lot smaller on the bike in the showroom.
We normally have a tech debrief a couple of days after when we have both had time to stew!!! Normally concluded as we are about to no off in bed :icon_biggrin:
What I have found its never the seat that's the issue that can be fixed its 'Does madam get her head ripped off when I'm bollocking along' the stock screen on the XR works really well but dip stick here !!!! couldn't resist trying another clang :icon_redface:
The XR is the first bike were my other half sits higher than me but the aerodynamics work really well so looks can be deceiving,and ironically after 40,000 miles on the 955 we still use the stock screen.
Good point Chris.
So, after trying a few in the showroom, and a stroke of luck, we've got test rides booked for Friday afternoon on the 1050 Sport (she loves the black one btw so it's eff all to do with the seat after all.....) and an Explorer.
The one I mentioned earlier, that was sold, apparently isn't. I chatted to the buyer in the shop this afternoon as he was trading his 15 plate V4 Crossdresser. He was about my age but nevertheless, when he got home his wife ripped him a new areshole so he had to withdraw.
It's white, factory panniers, 5k miles, mint condition and £8.5k. (got the price wrong earlier)
What was I saying about chucking my tick list in the bin..... :icon_rolleyes:
You boys are just SO thoughtful to be thinking of your so's with regard to a bike purchase. Can't say that I have ever made pillion issues part of my bike choosing list. I know, I am just a thoughtless bastard. :augie
New 1050 is nice.
https://youtu.be/Qon9-D6E-ds
Quote from: threepot on July 27, 2016, 08:26:04 PM
New 1050 is nice.
Nice single sided swingarm. (Thinks: I wonder it you could fit that to my model?) Isn't the pillion going to be way up there in the windblast, though? And, of course, it does not have chrome handlebars. :*&*
Quote from: nickjtc on July 27, 2016, 07:46:26 PM
You boys are just SO thoughtful to be thinking of your so's with regard to a bike purchase. Can't say that I have ever made pillion issues part of my bike choosing list. I know, I am just a thoughtless bastard. :augie
Blimey for a minute I thought you were going to tell us something we didn't already know :icon_wink:
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on July 27, 2016, 06:46:12 PM
Good point Chris.
So, after trying a few in the showroom, and a stroke of luck, we've got test rides booked for Friday afternoon on the 1050 Sport (she loves the black one btw so it's eff all to do with the seat after all.....) and an Explorer.
The one I mentioned earlier, that was sold, apparently isn't. I chatted to the buyer in the shop this afternoon as he was trading his 15 plate V4 Crossdresser. He was about my age but nevertheless, when he got home his wife ripped him a new areshole so he had to withdraw.
It's white, factory panniers, 5k miles, mint condition and £8.5k. (got the price wrong earlier)
What was I saying about chucking my tick list in the bin..... :icon_rolleyes:
I'm enjoying this :icon_biggrin:
Be interesting to see what you think of both BB. But that new Sport in black does look pretty nice...........Good job Ive spunked me deposit on a Rukka Suit :icon_biggrin:
If I was 10 yrs younger it would be the 1050 no question; it's a handsome bike. But in practical terms, the Tex is two grand cheaper, was dearer to start with, has shaft drive and (like Chris says) when it comes to hauling me, Jackie and her hair dryer somewhere warm and in comfort, I think the Tex will win.
Added to that the Sport is top end of my budget and will still need a significant wedge to sort the total lack of carrier and a top box at the very least. And I think a top box would ruin the looks.
I've just about convinced myself I think. The Sport is pretty and handles, but the Tex is going to be better for the long haul.
Yeah, got to admit that the Explorer probably does have the edge for long distance comfort 2 up, and with 140bhp ( New Map) should show a clean pair of heels to any of the Germanic Boxers.
The only thing that over rides my other halfs input is the size of the front wheel sorry for the broken record but it'll be a cold day hell before I ever use a 19" front. :icon_sad: it's been the best part of the last 14 years of Tiger ownership not having to put with one :icon_biggrin:
Quote from: Chris Canning on July 28, 2016, 10:46:28 AM
.... it'll be a cold day hell before I ever use a 19" front. :icon_sad: it's been the best part of the last 14 years of Tiger ownership not having to put with one :icon_biggrin:
A bit of size envy there, Chris??? :ImaPoser
I got my Explorer 3 years ago now and still grin like an idiot when I open it up :icon_biggrin: It is deceptively fast after coming from my Girly as I found out last month when I was pulled over by an unmarked cop bike :icon_redface: I slowed down a lot after being told to act your f***ing age and stop being such a knob. As for long distances Iv,e rever ridden a more relaxing bike.
OK up to speed now.
The TEX for my use is just right, however just like me it had to be tailored to fit.
I found it was a tad tall, so fitted -50mm doglegs and dropped the forks slightly. ROX risers pulled the bars back and up but it still wasn't right.
One night the rear shock lost all its' damping?? An email to Wilbers and a unit built for my weight, riding style and use. During the two weeks it took to be delivered the fork seal had started to weep so replaced with SKF seals. The forks are Kayaba 46mm which have been used by the motocross guys for years. The seals are dear but worth it. While I had the forks out I fiddled with the compression damping as it was harsh, stripping the damper tube, I removed a couple of shims to see if it would remedy the problem. Upside down forks are very easy to work on.
Getting the bike back together the ride quality went from the std plank to plush. Although not a power ranger I can still keep good pace with them round the bendy bits, especially with the good branded fuel it makes the acceleration rather lively.
The his and that heated seats are a godsend in chilly weather along with the shielded heated grips makes cold weather riding warm.Even Summer nights can be chilly. The seats take about 5k to get 'comfy', combine this with the modified suspension my back does not complain after 8hrs in the saddle.
Using the Batzen screen adjusters I have fitted a bikini screen to the std mounts and the std screen to the adjusters. At more than legal speeds I can still smoke a fag with no turbulance or buffeting.
It does not go off road so Pilot road 4 tyres are more brave than I am in the wet.
On reflection I would have got the Wilbers unit fitted with the optional remote preload to make things easier when required. Could still be fitted sometime.
Tried the latest rendition and found all the new electronics for me are a waste but the new colours are nice, apart from the cruise I use very little else of the info available. Waiting to disembark to Europe just change to metric and that's about it. Even the adjustable suspension was not as nice as mine.
Of interest when TEX went for a week jolly to the big T the dealer lent me a Tiger Sport. In conclusion it is a brilliant fun bike to ride, looks great and would be in the equation if I had some more space! For two up distance with luggage the TEX wins hands down.
Apart from service work there is no need to try and unlock the ECU as the fueling is spot on. Software is required for TB balance and the other minor resets.
For those interested the top speed is capped at 137mph.
Would I buy another?........Oh YES.
Cheers Nige. the one I'm trying tomorrow is a 2013 plate although claimed to be a 2014 model. I know not what toys it has in the way of ABS, cruise, maps etc, I'll find out tomorrow. It has panniers though which is a good start and I have a Givi top plate for my top box so I don't forsee any issues.
I know very little about setting up suspension so, assuming I buy it, I might just take it across to Chris for some help in that area.
Metaguru..interesting write up. I would consider a Tex if I was looking for something newer? A friend bought one last year. He's mostly had Jap sports,and he reckons its the best bike he's had. He let a friend have a go,and he went out and bought one! I went for a ride with them recently,and couldn't keep up with them. When you said your bike went back to Triumph,was that for the cam bucket mod? I think some early bikes suffered a problem??
I have heard quite a few people complain about the suspension on the Tex, especially the front. John at Revs Birmingham has done a shed load of them.
If it makes things easier the rear shock will come to pieces to adjust the damper pack but the spring rate is all wrong. It is oversprung to excess.
Your one should come with the same as mine, there is enough to fiddle with but I just leave it as is, it all works fine ie, ABS, Traction Control.
The traction control will let you pull wheelies either accidentally or intentional then let you down gently as if don't be a naughty boy. It is switchable.
Fly by wire throttle takes some getting used to as the harsh ride accentuates the light throttle and can make for a similar ride to surging. (Can't get away from it). It can be lessened with damper grease, used for rotary controls, but only a smear required.
I made some frames to take textile panniers as the std plastic are too cumbersome for me.
Top box plate is good as bike handles better without the top box, tends to catch side winds.
Enjoy the ride mate BUT set the suspension to minimum preload and damping, as we are similar build I would recommend or your ride will be spoilt.
Threepot
Yes it went for all the recalls, ECU, sidestand bolt, cylinder head. I am sure it returned with another transmission too as it felt different and the lube stickers had reappeared on the new clutch case.
TBH Triumph have been superb with their service.
Yes,I've read that bikes came back from the factory better than they went in! New exhausts or silencers,panels etc. Triumph had to step up to the mark on that one! Problem was Chinese made or machined parts??
Well, it's done. The Tex is awesome :wheel and there's loads of room board for both of us. My only concerns on the test ride were that it's not quite as mooth as I was expecting. And that engine is also noisy but not in a "there's something wrong with this" way. Also, the Metzler Tourances seem to be noisy too, especially the front where you can here the block pattern rumbling away.
Getting a set of crash bars fitted so I pick it up Monday night.
Now then, anybody want to buy Girly????
It's already on Gumtree so hopefully will be gone soon.
Enjoy mate, I couldnt wait to get the Tourances off my Girly, I went with Anakee 3's.
The times they are a changing. :icon_wink:
They are Chris, and I now understand what you ment about the game moving on. I might need some help setting up the suspension at some point mate.
My first impression was one of how much of the GS Triumph had captured in terms of seating position, pillion comfort, all round roominess, vibration, size, everything.... They nailed the power delivery though, mid range it flies. Most worrying was exactly what Niall warned me about. You think you're doing 60, look down and it's more like 80...
The more I'm thinking about the front end noise today though, especially as early ones had the shim bucket issue, the more I want it checked out. There's too much money at stake so I'm going to pop back tomorrow and ask them to test ride their demo bike for comparison.
Other than that I'm happy; it's the start of a new era for me :icon_biggrin:
By the way, when I rode the Girly home, she felt awfully small in comparison; and there was me wanting something smaller / lighter :*&*
Rear sus I'd just suffer it till you ditch for what ever while the obvious are Ohlins and Wilbers Nitron are coming up on the outside rail at a rate of knots at good money,what you have to be really carefull with the UK Wilbers lot he has a very bad habit of selling you what he wants and not what you need!!!
We have some sort of deal with Maxton on the race bikes Chris so maybe a bit of discount to explore there. One of our riders has a good relationship with K-Tech so again, something to look at.
Either will do I had my Ohlins re-valved by the K-tech guys and they were great they also make their own rear shock but while looks can be decieving their shock doesn't look great were as the Maxton oozes quality so long as you can put up with the colour of the spring :icon_
Front runner currently for the XR rear is Wilbers 642 with ride height ajuster and remote pre-load.
It's worth remembering that to us mortals it's a dark and mysterious art, but to them it's just another shock; a bread and butter job. Ourexperience with K Tech has been the same as yours though, excellent customer service.
And Iknow what you mean about the Maxton spring.... :bad Purple isn't that bad :*&*
Blimey Bix just been listening to your video didn't know Triumph made cement mixers :icon_lol:
But it does look clean :icon_biggrin:,keep the 955 for the winter you'll be crying riding that 1200. :augie
You been on the Tex site then Chris?? Yes, it sounds rough when cold, according to the dealer apparently they all do. Hmmmm.....
The old Girl went on Sunday, sold privately; sorry to see her go. Don't do a lot of winter riding any more so it shouldn't be a problem.
It's a lot better when its warm but having only done 5k in 3 yrs it's probably not had a lot of spirited use. I shall see if it responds to a damn good thrashing while it's under warranty.
I put 60-odd miles on her today in dry and rain. It reminds me of when I first got the Girly and it had Anakees on it; very heavy on the steering. The change to Scorpion Trails was amazing so that's what she'll get as soon as these are done, they're squared off anyway.
I registered on there when they first came out why :icon_redface: I have no idea because very quickly realised I just couldn't get past the 19" front but I'll be an avid viewer seeing how you get on with it.
Well, it looks like I'm going to call it "Fordson" for obvious reasons although I did think "Fergie" for the same reason and because I like redheads.
I'm looking forward to a couple of longer trips to properly get used to it.
Still confused by the gadgetry ......
"Deere" :m