There's nothing to it, really... just keeping her clean and lubed. I have heard of a few speedo sensor failures, but when the thing was cleaned and reassembled (properly), it started working again. If you perform these easy steps whenever the front wheel is off (tire changes, bearing checks, etc.), your speedo sender should be a lifetime item.
Once the wheel is off, disassemble the sensor...
Note that I've already cleaned these parts prior to taking photos.
Remove the steel sleeve. Note that it is installed from the inboard side...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Stretch67/IMGP2193.jpg)
Remove the magnet. Be gentle, the magnet is more fragile than the steel sleeve. Don't pry it out, or use pliers to grasp it. Try tapping the sensor against your palm to shake the magnet loose.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Stretch67/IMGP2194.jpg)
Clean these two parts with solvent and a rag. Also, use solvent and Q-Tips to clean down inside the sensor body, especially down deep where the magnet sits. When you're finished, there shouldn't be any dirt, grit, or old grease anywhere on the sensor or any of its parts.
Now, lubricate each of the parts with a thin coating of high-quality grease. I like Mystic JT-6... a high-temperature lithium grease that doesn't dry out over time. I buy it at a heavy truck parts store.
This is also a good time to check your wheel bearings. Stick a finger inside the bearing and turn it, feeling for freedom of movement and smooth rotation. Being sealed bearings, they're going to have some drag on them, but they should feel silky-smooth when turning. If you feel any crunchy spots, go ahead and replace the bearings before they disintegrate on you. The front wheel bearing number for all triple Tigers is 6303 DU (or 6303-2RS, same-same)
Reassemble the sensor. Note that the end of the magnet with the two cut-outs goes against the wheel
Note that the small prong on the fork leg fits into a space on the sensor, to keep the sensor from spinning with the wheel (which would damage the wiring...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Stretch67/IMGP2192.jpg)
When re-fitting the wheel, make sure that the two cut-outs in the end of the magnet engage the two tabs on the speedometer drive in the wheel hub. This photo was taken before I cleaned it up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Stretch67/IMGP2195.jpg)
While the front wheel is still off the ground, make sure everything works before you re-install and tighten the calipers, etc. Turn the ignition on and spin the front wheel as if the bike were rolling forward. The speedometer should register a couple MPH... the needle should at least rise up off the peg. If not, you may have to go back and make sure the speedo sensor is engaging the drive tabs in the wheel hub.
Nice write-up. Thanks Stretch!
Thanks for the illustrated 'how to' Stretch. That's something I'm going to do this month.
This was so cool--tonight's project. My advice would be to pay attention to that prong, the one that the slot (though there are two) on the sensor housing fits. I had a hell of a time reassembling everything. After cleaning and lubing the sleeve thing on the right side of the wheel, it kept falling out; keeping it in place and also keeping the speedometer sensor assembly in place while wrestling the wheel back in line took some doing for me. If possible, get a friend, acquaintance--hell, even some random hobo--to keep the ass end of the bike firmly on the ground while you finagle all that into place.
Hopefully the speedometer works now. I didn't test it tonight because if it doesn't work, something else besides the sensor is wrong, and I'm not prepared to do anything further ATM. I'll find out one way or t'other once I get the whole mess back on the road.
On the pro side, at least I got lithium grease on my rotors, so they're plenty well lubed now. I rock!
A centerstand makes it much easier.
Yep--have. Would've been much worse without one I reckon--! :D
Thank`s for the tip keep it up :D
Not to thread-jack... but I have an issue:
I dropped my bike in a 5mph tip a couple weeks ago. Got it back up and running a few days ago and took it for a long ride today.
After about 50 miles the speedo stopped working. The drop WAS on the left-hand side, and the axle did get knocked...
Why, all of the sudden did the speedo stop working after riding, and not just quit out all at once after the drop?
Could the magnet have cracked that easily or maybe something disconnected up in the dashboard?
Does this sound like a likely cause?
Maybe you crimped the cable when you dropped it? Only way to be sure is strip and inspect - assuming the problem is at that end and not the speedo of course. Either way, you have to start somewhere....
Tomorrow morning, first thing, I'm ripping apart the dashboard and the front wheel to diagnose and correct.
We'll see what's really going on... the cable was not touched in the tip...
I'm just wondering if a shock through the axle ruptured something in the speedo drive, or possibly disconnected a cable from the back of the speedo somewhere.
Time will tell.
Ok... this worked!!!!
The magnet is actually cracked in my bike... but it's still holding it's shape... turns out there was a TON of crud on the back-side which caused it to seize in the housing.
Works 100% now....
HOWEVER:
That sleeved bushing that goes in the center does NOT MOUNT with the flange on the IN-BOARD SIDE!!!! It mounts on the OUT-BOARD side...
It did not fit when I tried to put it back and after checking the parts manifest pictures on BikeBandit, it goes in from the OUTSIDE.
Please take note.
Dan
Glad you got a result anyway :thumbsup
My speedo stopped working last wednesday on the highway and it only registers a few mph on the gauge. I have taken it off road before and dropped it and that day it fell from a stand still when I was parking it. I saw this thread and decided to report on it. I took my wheel off to change the tire anyway and found that my magnet is broken in half! Can it work if it were glued together, or am I just kidding myself? I'm working on a penny budget right now, so any little tricks I can learn, I'll do! I'm not truly worried about knowing the speed I'm going since I know when I'm in 6th gear what mph I'm going based on the rpm's. Its that the odometer is registering 1 or 2 miles traveled within a 40 mile range. Thanks for everything!
Sorry if this sounds unhelpful, it's not meant to be... but since it's f**ked anyway, why not try gluing it together and see? It won't be any more f**ked when you've finished and it might just work. Then you can post that it works for others benefit (or not of course, either way) :wink:
You're absolutely right! Haha! I'll give it a try and see if anything good comes out of it!
Can I kick this ancient tread? Found it because the magnet in my Tiger is damaged also. They seem to be rather expensive, so would be great if superglue works :rock-1:
Exactly like:
Quote from: PJD on February 13, 2012, 08:18:22 AM
At the weekend I took the front wheel off and found this on the speedo side of the wheel. Any thoughts as to why it might have broken? I put the 2 Euro coin and the caliper bolt in the photo to show the size.
(http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10873.0;attach=6148;image)
And maybe YOU could tell us if it works or not. We're still waiting :new_popcornsmiley
Well Bob, the glue didn't work. Maybe still to much grease residue left, maybe it didn't want to stay in place properly because of the magnetism or maybe it was just me not being patient enough.
But it's in half like above pic, shouldn't be a problem as it can go nowhere. And since some fragements are missing I'm very sure it was broke before I had the wheel out, so it should work as is. Maybe the grease I had just was too thick, so cleaned it and used some thin grease. I'll find out tomorrow morning if I have to rely on the gps to tell me the speed for the next 1200 km / 750 M or that the Tiger will inform me.
By the way, are speedo sensor and brake calipers the same between spoke wheel and cast wheel Girly? I know a guy who is breaking a wire wheel 955, so maybe maybe maybe his magnet is still in one piece. Or I'll look it up on return, I now have to go find some clean socks and underwear to take along for the trip :hat10
If you still want to attempt a repair, you may want to try a 2 part epoxy on the "clean" surfaces. A rubber band around it should hold the shape while the epoxy cures. On this side of the pond we have a product brand called "JB Weld" ( 2 part epoxy) that has saved my rear end on more than one occasion. If you use a disposable plastic cup as a form, you could even fill in the missing fragments (as long as they are small) and sand them to shape.
I suggest soaking the parts in some degreaser, warm it up a bit if you can, just keep it below the flash point :bug_eye
If you've ever seen the inside of a magnet that's been broken, I guess you have now :icon_rolleyes: then you'll know that the grain is very coarse and it tends to soak up oils and greases. You'll never get it all out unless you make a determined effort.
I've not been into mine (maybe I should at least clean it out :icon_rolleyes:) but I can't see from the parts how it produces a pulse for the sensor.
Bike parts that need a good clean do go in the dishwasher isn't it? Obviously only when the better half isn't at home :violent1
When I left home it did give a reading. So it's probably not that the wiring got damaged when wresteling with the brakes. Odd thing is, it gave only a 40 km/h reading when doing about 80-90. Later on the weekend it was more 30-20 and by the time I got home it was close to 0. But than I was so used to looking at the Zumo for speed I hardly looked at the speedo at all. Good thing: milage hardly went up either :hat10
New speedo sensor is quite expensive, but someone is breaking his Tiger. I'll ask if the magnet is in one piece. Wire and cast Girly's have the same sensor I presume?
Cheers, Dutch
Speedo packed in a couple weeks ago and has`nt cured itself this time, so have checked just about everything out as far as possible.
Magnets still in one piece although it does have a hairline crack, all connectors appear ok with only one black/ground pin looking a little black, cleaned up ok and continuity is fine.
Has anyone ever checked for voltage at the sensor connector behind the cockpit? I tried with it split and engine running it gave ...bk/y to bk 13.21v and bl/w to bk 4.72v, I have absolutely no idea if these values are correct or what they should be.
One thing I have found out though is that the magnet produces eddy currents which obviously increase and decrease with the speed of rotation so we probably need to be looking for mA or smaller?
I managed to make a little tool for spinning the magnate while the sensor assembly isnt in place, saves reassemling the front end and spinning the wheel by hand.
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