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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => ECU and Fuel Injection => Topic started by: Advwannabe on November 14, 2015, 02:29:02 PM

Title: Quick connect issues
Post by: Advwannabe on November 14, 2015, 02:29:02 PM
I have a slow leak out of the bottom (grey) quick connect fitting. It is only slow drip,but putting a new o ring on hasn't fixed it. Could the fitting that screws into the tank be the problem?

I recall back in the day the quick connect fittings were plastic, but then replaced with metal in a factory recall. The fitting that screws into the tank is still plastic though.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: KuzzinKenny on November 14, 2015, 05:37:55 PM
Hey Advwannabe !! Have a looky here................

http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php?topic=5670.0

this should give ya everything ya need  :thumbsup

thanks  EvilBetty for this info  :notworthy

KK   
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: Advwannabe on November 14, 2015, 09:23:55 PM
Thanks Kuz ( and Evil Betty)

I take it from your answer that the stock tank fitting is crap and not worth mucking about with, roger that.

Cheers
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: KuzzinKenny on November 15, 2015, 02:17:27 AM
Almost forgot  :icon_rolleyes: mark the fuel lines before ya remove them so ya know what goes where  :thumbsup

there was a recall for the fuel lines but i think they only replaced one of the parts  :^_^

good luck

KK
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: iansoady on November 15, 2015, 10:55:39 AM
Quote from: KuzzinKenny on November 15, 2015, 02:17:27 AM
Almost forgot  :icon_rolleyes: mark the fuel lines before ya remove them so ya know what goes where
good luck

KK

It doesn't actually matter which way round they go.......
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: Chris Canning on November 15, 2015, 11:17:11 AM
I'm just gobsmacked there's anyone that still has the stock plastic fuel connectors on their bike like riding around on a hand grenade how the hell no one has ever been killed I'll never know.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: nickjtc on December 08, 2015, 05:18:01 AM
Quote from: Chris Canning on November 15, 2015, 11:17:11 AM
I'm just gobsmacked there's anyone that still has the stock plastic fuel connectors on their bike like riding around on a hand grenade how the hell no one has ever been killed I'll never know.

Just noticed this thread. Rhoda the roadie still has the stock fuel connectors, but they 'seem' to be ok. I guess I should start doing some research into more durable ones..........
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 08, 2015, 03:19:05 PM
Quote from: nickjtc on December 08, 2015, 05:18:01 AM

Just noticed this thread. Rhoda the roadie still has the stock fuel connectors, but they 'seem' to be ok. I guess I should start doing some research into more durable ones..........


In conversation with a Triumph mechanic on this subject. The stock Roadie connections are good (same on the Sprint, Speed etc. allegedly), only the O ring gets damaged through poor handling, he always keeps a handful in the workshop.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: nickjtc on December 08, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on December 08, 2015, 03:19:05 PM
In conversation with a Triumph mechanic on this subject. The stock Roadie connections are good (same on the Sprint, Speed etc. allegedly), only the O ring gets damaged through poor handling, he always keeps a handful in the workshop.

Good to know. Thanks.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: PeteH on December 27, 2015, 05:15:28 PM
Replaced my fuel tank fittings just the before the big meet up a d all was good, shortly after the top one started leaking so ordered some O rings ....fitted one on the leaking one and all was good again. Started her up just before chrimbo and its leaking again aaaarrrgggghhhh :(
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 27, 2015, 08:03:41 PM
Same one?
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: PeteH on December 28, 2015, 04:49:07 PM
Looks that way but need to get her in the shed for further investigation, but the fuel appears to be running down the same pipe :(
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: Dyn Blin on December 29, 2015, 11:10:09 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on December 08, 2015, 03:19:05 PM
...he always keeps a handful in the workshop.

2 years ago, I had to pull the tank on a buddy's bike  40 miles from nowhere after snapping a clutch cable and finding the prior owner had zip-tied it to various points on the frame..   Between sand & rain, I "poorly handled" the job and somehow nicked the ring, resulting in a steady stream of fuel when the pump primed.  We tried a couple of tricks- 1st with liberal coating of lip balm, that failed , then tried a few wraps of Teflon tape (I can't recall how that got into my bag)- that leaked, so then a thin strip of  silicone tape stretched over the o-ring.  I'm still not sure it sealed -tough to tell in the downpour, but it let us get to an tractor-shop in the next tiny town to source a proper o-ring without catching fire.

Since then I always have kept a few in my kit-bag.  Never needed them, but likely will the minute I take them out.

For the tribal knowledge database:  Viton *or*  Buna-N O-Ring Spec:  Inside Diameter = 5/16″ (7.93mm) , Outside Diameter: 7/16″ (11.11mm)

Don't source them from a dealer, too dear.  You can get a bag of 100 from a couple of bucks from McMaster Carr or WW Grainger in the US.  Or  RS Components  for our UK brothers, 5 pounds for 50, and have many spares for friends.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: JoeDirt on December 30, 2015, 12:05:04 AM
Quote from: Dyn Blin on December 29, 2015, 11:10:09 PM
For the tribal knowledge database:  Viton *or*  Buna-N O-Ring Spec:  Inside Diameter = 5/16″ (7.93mm) , Outside Diameter: 7/16″ (11.11mm)

CONFIRMED - I spec'ed out the exact size back 3 years ago. I bought 100 and I used about a total 10 since. Brown Viton same dimensions as above.

Pro tip: don't ask Dyn if you can use his chapstick... you don't know where it's been. :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: PeteH on January 11, 2016, 12:33:08 AM
Finally got her in the shed to check out the fuel fitting and its as I thought, top fitting leaks :( tried swapping them and it still leaked.
So I have one spare viton ring that I will swap this week and will keep my fingers crossed.....but as an after thought does the 885i need both feeds to the fuel rail ? As later 955's only have one out!et from the pump.....

Oh, and after spending a couple of months on the patio uncovered the chains decided it's had enough :(.....bit pissed off now....
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: John Stenhouse on January 14, 2016, 01:21:56 AM
The 885s need both fittings Pete, they go either way round as the rail is just a tube really
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: fattyjr on January 14, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
Wonder if you can fit the later rail off the 955 and plug the fitting in the tank?
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: JoeDirt on January 14, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: fattyjr on January 14, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
Wonder if you can fit the later rail off the 955 and plug the fitting in the tank?

I have a 2006 rail if you want to try it. I never understood the loop on the earlier fuel injection.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: fattyjr on January 14, 2016, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on January 14, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
I have a 2006 rail if you want to try it. I never understood the loop on the earlier fuel injection.

I got a 955 rail off a daytona sat in the garage. Next time i pull the tank, i will have a look.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: iansoady on January 15, 2016, 11:54:54 AM
Quote from: JoeDirt on January 14, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
I have a 2006 rail if you want to try it. I never understood the loop on the earlier fuel injection.

Basically all that happens is one end is pressurised by the pump and the other end is attached to the pressure regulator so bleeds excess back into the tank.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: John Stenhouse on January 15, 2016, 01:58:09 PM
I'm guessing that the later one has all the bleed section in the pump/tank area.
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: PeteH on January 18, 2016, 07:13:47 PM
Well I tried swapping the fittings around to see if it made any difference due to the regulator bleeding back and it didn't :( going to have to wait till it warms up a bit before any further investigation as its too feckin cold in the shed, thanks for the suggestions and offers...much appreciated.
Title: Fuel pressure regulator
Post by: PeteH on February 23, 2016, 11:40:22 PM
Following  on from a post in the Quick connect post and a reply from iansoady that got me thinking that my problem could be the pressure regulator. So I removed it for testing, the manual states a working system pressure of 40 -47psi and stamped on the reg is 3 bar. With a hose attached to the brass stub and the unit emersed in water I took the pressure up to 55 psi and it held it....so looks like it's cooked, new one ordered a d hope it cures the situation
Title: Re: Quick connect issues
Post by: Timbox2 on February 24, 2016, 07:36:09 AM
Quote from: John Stenhouse on January 15, 2016, 01:58:09 PM
I'm guessing that the later one has all the bleed section in the pump/tank area.

It does, the regulator assy is clamped to the metal feed pipe inside the tank just before it exits through the plate.
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