Looks like the days of having to buy aftermarket sus maybe over :icon_wink: even got a ride height adjuster not unless that's just for the test guys :icon_biggrin:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2017/february/new-triumph-tiger-800-spy-shots/
That looks like an Ohlins, but will it be a Proper one?
Well that one is number on the spring with a ride height ajuster probably just put the crap on for the customers :icon_frown:
I was expecting them to go a bit more radical with this revision but I suppose it's still possible as this is just a development mule. A bolt on sub frame would be a smart move.
It might look like a Tiger but with the longer wheel base and shorter suspension it could be a basis for an 800GT.
:ww
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on February 03, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
I was expecting them to go a bit more radical with this revision but I suppose it's still possible as this is just a development mule. A bolt on sub frame would be a smart move.
Looks like it has a bolt on SF??
Same. Old.
Perhaps an xrtaxcx model?
Kinda think the big T should be pushing harder to do some cutting edge stuff. They are getting a bit static and look increasingly old hat next to the honda ktm ducati offerings. (And my steamer)
Let's hope that it is a test mule for the new engine only.
I agree with Nick to a point. Triumphs 'adventure style' line up ,although good,is not ground breaking? Maybe they are trying to do too much 'in' house',and not using other resources from outside? The UK boasts some of the finest 'tech' companies in the world. Most of the f1 teams are based here. We have the likes of Cosworth,Ilmor,Lotus etc We have a fantastic tradition in motorcycle frame design ,and companies that race and tune bikes.. Maybe they do coaborate with them?? But,the bikes the opposition make are not really perfect. Rumours that some new AT owners are not happy with the quality. And reliability issues with other manufacturers? And the new 950 Ducati needs a cam belt change every 18k miles!!
Quite happy with my 'steamer' thanks!
Not forgetting we have a great tradition of chassis Innovation, sine of whom are still up there, just look at what CCM have done with the GP450 and their new Spitfire.
Rob North 800 XC anyone :wheel
Quote from: threepot on February 11, 2017, 02:03:45 AM
I agree with Nick to a point. Triumphs 'adventure style' line up ,although good,is not ground breaking? Maybe they are trying to do too much 'in' house',and not using other resources from outside? The UK boasts some of the finest 'tech' companies in the world. Most of the f1 teams are based here. We have the likes of Cosworth,Ilmor,Lotus etc We have a fantastic tradition in motorcycle frame design ,and companies that race and tune bikes.. Maybe they do coaborate with them?? But,the bikes the opposition make are not really perfect. Rumours that some new AT owners are not happy with the quality. And reliability issues with other manufacturers? And the new 950 Ducati needs a cam belt change every 18k miles!!
Quite happy with my 'steamer' thanks!
If you have ridden a modern day bike as in something produced in the last 18 months and still think that then blimey you are stuck in a time warp and if you haven't Jeeze are you in for a shock.
I've tried to keep up with the times with my Tiger and others be it suspension/wheels/brakes/fuelling but bloody hell was/is my XR a culture shock came as a mighty wake up call :icon_eek:
Yea sure you can debate if you need/want such but that doesn't get away from the quantum leap that the latest stuff is no matter who makes it.
That's a given Chris, I think there was a little tongue in cheek action here. (What an odd turn of phrase that is...)
I think what I wanna see is Triumph pressing on even further.
Like when they made the daytona in the 2000's, the street triple or to a certain extent the tiger 800. That sort of 'leap' forward.
Been a lot of bonneville re-hashes, bobber and street twins, re-hashes of the tiger 1050 and countless tweaks to the tiger 800. All fantastic bikes but essentially the same bikes as before.
Been looking for a new (additional!) bike and the Triumph range is just ever so slightly stodgey at the moment in comparison with some rivals.
Have a look at the new Street Triple Nick, that is off you like your stodge with mega stove chilli, I'm looking forward to getting a test ride on that to compare with my series 1.
And if you think Bonnies are porridge, try the new Thruxton R in sport mode :bad
I've had a go on the old street triple and I thought it was great fun. Jail would be inevitable if I owned one. Or death. Or fame and glory. Or some sort of imaginative combination of these things.
Only ridden a bonnie a couple of times and I can't be doing with the lack of thrust. Presumably the thruxton deals with this issue more than adequately?
Quote from: Chris Canning on February 11, 2017, 12:29:23 PM
If you have ridden a modern day bike as in something produced in the last 18 months and still think that then blimey you are stuck in a time warp and if you haven't Jeeze are you in for a shock.
I've tried to keep up with the times with my Tiger and others be it suspension/wheels/brakes/fuelling but bloody hell was/is my XR a culture shock came as a mighty wake up call :icon_eek:
Yea sure you can debate if you need/want such but that doesn't get away from the quantum leap that the latest stuff is no matter who makes it.
A valid response Chris. And yes,I have ridden quite a few bikes in the last few years. Some old and new Jap,and a couple of new Triumphs. But when I get back on my Steamer,and Daytona,I realise they're not that much better,if atall?
Yes,some are lighter,more responsive due to fi,faster in a straight line. But certainly lack the 'character' my bikes have :icon_wink:
Just my opinion.
Quote from: Nick Calne on February 11, 2017, 04:14:49 PM
That's a given Chris, I think there was a little tongue in cheek action here. (What an odd turn of phrase that is...)
I think what I wanna see is Triumph pressing on even further.
Like when they made the daytona in the 2000's, the street triple or to a certain extent the tiger 800. That sort of 'leap' forward.
Been a lot of bonneville re-hashes, bobber and street twins, re-hashes of the tiger 1050 and countless tweaks to the tiger 800. All fantastic bikes but essentially the same bikes as before.
Been looking for a new (additional!) bike and the Triumph range is just ever so slightly stodgey at the moment in comparison with some rivals.
Oh blimey your preaching to the converted,I go to the bike show every year I cannot remember the last time I went on the Triumph stand they have completely lost the plot about the only light at the end of tunnel is this new triple engine for Moto2.
Quote from: Nick Calne on February 11, 2017, 04:14:49 PM
That's a given Chris, I think there was a little tongue in cheek action here. (What an odd turn of phrase that is...)
I think what I wanna see is Triumph pressing on even further.
Like when they made the daytona in the 2000's, the street triple or to a certain extent the tiger 800. That sort of 'leap' forward.
Been a lot of bonneville re-hashes, bobber and street twins, re-hashes of the tiger 1050 and countless tweaks to the tiger 800. All fantastic bikes but essentially the same bikes as before.
Been looking for a new (additional!) bike and the Triumph range is just ever so slightly stodgey at the moment in comparison with some rivals.
I think Nick is 'conditioning' us for his new 'AT' purchase? :augie :icon_wink:
Having spent the last 5 weeks sitting in a chair and eating cake while avoiding daytime TV as much as possible (due to a hip injury) I caught MCN live streaming of the new 765 Street Triple test in Spain and f**k me did they like it. They believe its a quantum leap from the old one. We can only hope that it follows on into the rest of the range.
Doubling back to my own experience, like Chris says, test riding my Explorer was a revelation. The old Girly always handled better than it had any right to even as stock in my opinion, but the Ex takes itway beyond that. The way that it's still a tall bike with a tall engine but they've managed to make it feel like the weight is much lower down defies physics for me.
And going off at a tangent for minute, have you seen the team Aston Martin have assembled under Adrian Newey to build the ultimate road car? The absolute best in the business in each discipline eg Cosworth for 6.5l V12 normally aspirated engine. Objective: lap at the same speed as an F1 car. I reckon Newey is after Gordon Murray's crown.....
You can imagine how I get on swapping between bikes,not ridden my Tiger this year till today not only it spat its dummy out on the M6 this afternoon I've become far to used to riding around with 160hp being able to put the rest of the world into slow mo :icon_biggrin:
Quote from: Chris Canning on April 02, 2017, 11:36:39 PM
You can imagine how I get on swapping between bikes,not ridden my Tiger this year till today not only it spat its dummy out on the M6 this afternoon I've become far to used to riding around with 160hp being able to put the rest of the world into slow mo :icon_biggrin:
Get rid of 'tigger'. Looks like you've found biking 'nirvana'!! :icon_wink:
Where would we be without the 'Geermans' eh? :icon_smile:
While it was a major hoo haa yesterday resolved today phewww :icon_biggrin: and despite doing a couple of hundred miles this morning to CrossGates cafe on the XR still got out on the Tiger this afternoon to find out if all was well :icon_rolleyes:
While their are all sorts of options out there when it comes to bikes for me the game changer isn't HP or manufacturer but having a quick shifter,yea sure you get pretty good at clutchless gear changes but the beauty of a QS is you keep the throttle open even going away from the lights with minimum gas the speed of how you can run through the box is fantastic and when your nailing it jeeze its a wonder.
Hmmm, got RBW, now I need Q/S............Damn you Canning :icon_lol:
The 1050 box is pretty slick but you do have to be positive with it or you can get a false neutral between 4th and 5th, nothing technical, just me being a wuss :icon_rolleyes:
Depending on who the sub supplier is for the gear linkage, it's with stripping the joints and lever bush for a clean and relub after 15k miles. I started having issues in the last couple of k miles with imprecise changes, when I stripped it down, the original grease was white and dry. A clean up and a couple of dabs of LR swivel grease has brought it back to new operation :thumbsup I'm mentioning this because I know you put the miles on and the weather doesn't phase you too much :icon_cool: