Fuel Map For Bixxer

[Chris Canning]

Edit: I've spent 10 minutes reading up on Rexxer. You suggested I was "digging in" over progress away from plug in boxes like Power Commander, but directly altering the maps inside the ECU is exactly what we've all been doing with Tuneboy and TuneECU for years.  Rexxer does nothing that they don't from a first look. 

Except it's 3 bloody grand..................

Software "ECM Titanium Map-Editor"

What are we getting into Luddites.com!!!,It's not 3 grand it's a dam sight more than that,but for the likes of you or me who cares!!!!! thats not our problem thats cost to the tuner,what counts to the customer no piggy back,no fitting and one less thing to go wrong and a more precise tool, oh blimey almost forgot and cheaper.

As for accessing the ECU,that hasn't stopped Power Commanders being a big seller,of course the luddite punch line is 'You can take e'm off' yea and you can get  a stock map blown in alot quicker



With our newly developed Software "ECM Titanium Map-Editor" you have the ability to modify all functions of the ECU infinitely. Engine maps, pre-ignition, lambda, outlet control, display notice and the immobilizer can all be modified.
PRICE:
2.998,- EUR
(VAT incl.)

[blacktiger]

Another conspiracy theory is that they are seeing how the EU regulators are pushing and trying to get ahead of the curve. Not that I subscribe to that, that's more Honda than Triumph who traditionally are more wait and see.

That wasn't the case with the 800s when they gave them 94bhp well ahead of the new 47bhp (exactly half of 94) licencing laws being voted on in the EU parliament.

I case you're wondering what's going on. You cannot restrict a bike to less than half its original power output. So the Tiger800 can be restricted to the 47bhp for the A2 licence. http://www.1stopinstruction.com/a2restrictedlicenceeastlondon.html

[Sin_Tiger]

Wow, this is way more interesting than arguing the toss over car engine oils 

Wasn't thinking of that specifically and I did put the EU thing and the "wait and see" in different sentences. I was referring more to how the industry was moving, hence the reference to Honda. You do have a point on that issue though.

How does the 33hp restrict kit work then?

I'm off for my porridge before it gets cold 

[blacktiger]

How does the 33hp restrict kit work then?

No such thing any more. The EU moved the goal posts again.

[Sin_Tiger]

  about time they had some serious austerity measures there.

Anyway, back at the fort. This is what I managed with the Thruxton, after a few tweaks and Tune ECU.

[iansoady]

Of course, it could be altruistic in that they really care about their customers and want to save them from hurting themselves by tinkering with stuff they shouldn't 

That must be it.

[Bixxer Bob]

Nice map Sin, that lift is every bit as impressive as Chris's Rexxer map, except if course TunECU is free!!

Here's a comparison;


                                                      TuneECU                             REXXER              Tuneboy

Need a plug in box                         no                                           no                        no
between ECU and bike

Blow custom maps into ECU      yes                                          yes                       yes

Blow standard maps into ECU    yes                                          yes                       yes

Alter timing map                            dunno                                    yes                       yes

Alter ECU map                                 yes                                         yes                       yes

Alter other ECU parameters           yes                                        yes                       yes

Cost                                                    free                                       no                          no

[Sin_Tiger]

Stop winding him up will you 

It does ride nice, friend took it out for a short spin two up, came back, looked at me and just said "Bloody Gangsta" which is local parlance for a hooligan bike 

Tune ECU did help finding some faults on the induction side and once I got it going properly was a breeze to use.

[Chris Canning]

Nice map Sin, that lift is every bit as impressive as Chris's Rexxer map, except if course TunECU is free!!

Here's a comparison;


                                                      TuneECU                             REXXER              Tuneboy

Need a plug in box                         no                                           no                        no
between ECU and bike

Blow custom maps into ECU      yes                                          yes                       yes

Blow standard maps into ECU    yes                                          yes                       yes

Alter timing map                            dunno                                    yes                       yes

Alter ECU map                                 yes                                         yes                       yes

Alter other ECU parameters           yes                                        yes                       yes

Cost                                                    free                                       no                          no

Perhaps we could have a list of bikes that the above apply too,after all this was put in talking about bikes not Triumphs.

[Chris Canning]

I would suggest whats going to cause the hassle is car ECU's the Yanks sorry Americans have had an open policy but I'm informed that may come to and and what kind of knock on effect that will have is anyone's guess.

[Chris Canning]

about time they had some serious austerity measures there.

Anyway, back at the fort. This is what I managed with the Thruxton, after a few tweaks and Tune ECU.

Thats interesting seeing that,fancy having a dyno that show's under 100hp,how quaint,you'd think it would come up in red at the bottom 'Not a Lot' 

[Bixxer Bob]

Stop winding him up will you 

Oh alright then.....  subject closed 

[Sin_Tiger]

Thats interesting seeing that,fancy having a dyno that show's under 100hp,how quaint,you'd think it would come up in red at the bottom 'Not a Lot' 

:p :p

Changed my mind Bob, go for it ;-)

What's eating you Chris, got cabin fever our somebody nick your chain lube 

[NKL]

You can adjust ignition for the KTM with Tune ECU.

[Bixxer Bob]

So they all do pretty much the same then!

At this point, and after leading a 'healthy debate" with Chris on the subject, I have to make a point in his defence. 

We "dabble".   

Chris did his research, tracked down a professional outfit and had a properly designed map installed.

Also, Tuneboy is sold to individuals and is tied to a single bike by software key.  It covers a range of Manufacturers and is increasing all the time, but no-one is going to easily make money by using it.  TuneECU does roughly the same range of bikes but is free. If you have a dyno and know what you are doing, you could make money using it but that would contravene the software terms of use.  The owner of the software was altruistic in not making money from his work so doesn't want anyone else to either.  This left Rexxer a bit of a problem; how to make money from their expertise.  Their solution was two-fold; offer a professional, well-backed-up service to specialist tuning shops and aim it at a very specific area of the market.  If you look at their customer base, it's high-end; the sort of people that buy expensive bikes and pay fortunes to have them maintained, not the sort inclined to do it themselves hence there's a profit in it.

Only my opinon of course....