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June 28, 2021, 05:49:17 PMReply #15 on

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I agree as well Chris, things have moved on, thankfully in most cases, however, as motorcyclists you generally have a better knowledge of what you're buying and expect a similar level of understanding from sales people.

What I dislike and I suspect this may be what Phil is alluding to, without putting words into his mouth, the attitude of the sales people in many places is such that I personally often feel like I have ATM stamped on my forehead when I'm approached and often the immediate thrust of discussion is about financing before any talk of bikes commences. I felt the same was true in the car sales showrooms last time we bought a car.

I came into the store to consider a motorcycle not a "lifestyle" and I have money in my pocket, I do not wish to discuss monthly repayments, how a PCP arrangement will work for me nor what my credit rating is. I suspect it's a generational thing as much as anything else and we have to adjust our expectations accordingly  ;)

Assuming your average biker knows anything about bikes is a major mistake...having worked for a UK importer and suffered....dealing with the public...90% you wouldn’t trust to blow your tyres up never mind know how their bike worked, nearly every conversation would be the same and the quickest way to end it...was talk about suspension...mention preload/compression/rebound I could guarantee they’d be gone inside 25 seconds....the other 10% were well clued up i’m Glad to say.

Have to say my experience of dealing with Euro manufactures or should I say dealers has been very good, having said that I travel 50 miles to my preferred KTM dealer as opposed to the one just around the corner.

June 28, 2021, 06:09:54 PMReply #16 on

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June 28, 2021, 09:44:20 PMReply #17 on

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Aside from reflective tape on the inside leg of your jeans I'm out of ideas mate, haven't kept up with the latest Tigers, Ivor might be the man to weigh in on that.
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June 28, 2021, 11:54:54 PMReply #18 on

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Assuming your average biker knows anything about bikes is a major mistake...having worked for a UK importer and suffered....dealing with the public...90% you wouldn’t trust to blow your tyres up never mind know how their bike worked, nearly every conversation would be the same and the quickest way to end it...was talk about suspension...mention preload/compression/rebound I could guarantee they’d be gone inside 25 seconds....the other 10% were well clued up i’m Glad to say.

Have to say my experience of dealing with Euro manufactures or should I say dealers has been very good, having said that I travel 50 miles to my preferred KTM dealer as opposed to the one just around the corner.

I'd include most of the dealer's spanner monkeys in that statement Chris.  You can get a bike serviced at the dealer for around 100 quid an hour.  You can get it repaired if it goes wrong as long as the laptop can tell them what to change. However, it can be running like a dog but if the laptop says it's fine you're on your own. 

Two examples.  My Explorer.  It took a year of hawking it round the dealer, then a renowned bike repairer, a vehicle electronics expert, and even the great Clive Woods.  In the end, I fixed it myself.  Just this las week, a friend's 2 yr old Speed Triple died.  Completely dead with a blown 30amp fuse.  Dealer told him to buy better quality fuses.  No-one else would touch it.  He was advised to break it for spares.  I spent a morning pulling half the damn thing apart to eventually find where the charge lead from the rectifier to the battery had rubbed through against the frame.  All it cost to fix was 6 inches of insulation tape and a tie wrap.


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