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June 27, 2021, 08:22:07 PM on

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OK, so I'm getting the distinct desire for a hipster  Parallel Twin bike for pootling around locally. Not to replace the Tiger, but the Tiger was a handful in town the other day, and as mentioned in a different thread, lots of heat from engine/radiator fan.. Tiger runs fine, so not a problem as such, but...
The RE Interceptor looks nice, and is well received, with a good aftermarket selection, but for about the same price as a 2 year old RE, I can get a 10 year old Bonnie/Speedmaster/America etc...They all have EFI from about 2008, but no abs on the big T until recently.
Who's got one, or an opinion.....

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If you are looking for agility in town, I’m just wondering whether these are the best option… If going for RE, I might suggest looking for a Himalayan, as the higher seat position will help you as you slice through traffic. In general, I would be looking for something with a lower wet weight, perhaps a shorter wheelbase and a steeper head angle. But that’s just me.
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I quite like the look of the RE Continental GT but doubt very much the body would take the riding position anymore. The Interceptor, I'm still not sure about.

The Himalayan would certainly be more comfortable but does look agricultural when compared to the Tiger, especially the flowing curves of the 955i.

While I like Triumphs, I'm not a great fan of the twin offerings.

For me though the I think the RE would take the prize for around town pootling.

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As suggested, the Himmy might well be an option for your purpose, from what I've read and spoken to club guys who've tests ridden them, the lower performance puts them off and the consensus seems to be that the bike could handle more without it getting bent out of shape. I watched a video from TEC parts recently regarding their new cam, very interesting and economical, compared to the big bore kits and established tuning options.

Unless you really want a Retro look, another option might be one of the newer "Asian" made Trailies, there are a couple of larger capacity options that could fit the bill. You might pick up a used bargain, having said that they seem to be holding value better than a couple of years ago, I wonder if people have realised that they're not as bad as the image they initially had.
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Agreed on the not-so-lightning-fast performance of the Himalayan. Not sure if you need that in gridlocked London though. ;)

Just to throw in another spanner, but how about a Zero DSR or SR/F? You ought to be able to find a second-hand DSR for a decent price and you won't be doing hundreds of miles within the city, which means that range is less important. At the same time, the cost of riding them is really low, they are nimble and quick and they'll get you through the congestion zone without too much trouble. And as you are keeping your Tiger, I would see that as an option. ;)
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Thanks for the input guys, appreciated.
Not getting rid of Tiger, so the Himalayan, which looks like a great bike, is just like having another Tiger like bike.
The clue is in the Hipster comment. I actually fancy something different to the Tiger, but not a specialised ride, like my Flathead.
The idea of a twin appeals... I had an SR500 (Road going version of the XT500) many years ago, and I know it was a single, but it was a great city hopper. Slim, and light.
I do like the Interceptor rather than the Continental, as the riding position looks more my style, and I do like the Speedmaster/America style...
Electric is a good option, but I am not into the look of most modern bikes, and I include the zero range, they just don't appeal ,  I'm looking for a retro style, Wax jacket and all that......
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I have some surplus moustache wax I can pass on to you  :pimp I'll just get my Harris Tweed anorak and leave with what remains of my dignity still intact.

Something Retro is going to have a very exposed engine so electric is going to be tricky, although at Stafford a couple of years back there was a guy selling an electric pack mocked up too look like an American V Twin.

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If the bike is what is said for riding around town and local stuff I wouldn’t buy, single cylinder Supermoto every time.

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If the bike is what is said for riding around town and local stuff I wouldn’t buy, single cylinder Supermoto every time.

Nah.....I'll leave that type of bike for you Chris.... Not my (courier) bag, as it were...

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Forgot you live in another country with a different slant on life  :icon_lol:

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It's the London look.....

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Have a look on you tube for a guy / channel called Stuart Fillingham. He owns triumph twins and an RE interceptor.  Very knowledgeable gentleman who frequently compares the bikes.

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A friend of mine, had an RE and a Triumph Bonneville and he sold the Triumph... Not to say that that is an example to follow as he was not doing the London look. ;)

However, have you considered a cafe racer? For that London look? ;)
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Have a look on you tube for a guy / channel called Stuart Fillingham. He owns triumph twins and an RE interceptor.  Very knowledgeable gentleman who frequently compares the bikes.

Hi Nick

Yep, have watched Stuart's YouTube channel, and Missenden Flyer, Wild Moto etc . Stuart is a bit Ranty, and has a bit of a thing against Triumph after sales. He made a big old thing about gearboxes locking up, which was really only the gearchange  problem, similar to the 800 problem that both Ghulst and I have dealt with.

I seems very few people have a bad word to say about RE these days, so its  about what I like best. I really ought to get up to Bikeden in Watford for a try out.

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A friend of mine, had an RE and a Triumph Bonneville and he sold the Triumph... Not to say that that is an example to follow as he was not doing the London look. ;)

However, have you considered a cafe racer? For that London look? ;)

I do live close to the Ace café, if I fancy a race round the North Circular. I quite like the Café racer style, but both my stature and back will probably not fit, be more like the Hippo at London Zoo look......
When you look at some of Documentaries about Mods/Rockers and the general bike culture from the time, it all seems so twee, now......
I was quite good at wiring bikes back in the late 70s, and did a fair few old rocker bikes ( ah..... Zener diodes) and some of those bikes were death traps.

 


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