TigerTriple.com

Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: 93TigerBill-2016 on November 07, 2022, 04:31:41 AM

Title: Chain Slider Block
Post by: 93TigerBill-2016 on November 07, 2022, 04:31:41 AM
Hi Fellow 'Steamers'.
I'm looking for a Chain Slider Block P/N 2078695-T0301, NOS?
Maybe someone has one kicking around from a prior ownership?

This has to be just about the only part 'unique' to the '93~'98 Tigers, and at 132,000 km I need to replace the blighter (yet again).
No stock at dealers on Oz, or at Triumph Australia; None in USA that I can find.
Maybe one (or two) in UK, but the P&P costs are extortionate.

Looking at fabricating one from UHMWPE, once I find some.
Had a go using a Cutting Board, but it was brittle, and snapped on assembly.

Annoying that such a part can sideline such a great 'bike!

Anybody?
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: London_Phil on November 07, 2022, 05:31:09 PM
Replaced by

CHAIN SLIDER BG 2078695T03

Shown as available in UK??
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: 93TigerBill-2016 on November 08, 2022, 02:03:00 AM
Phil,
Found those (or that). Bit hard to justify $A100 for P&P.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 08, 2022, 12:26:44 PM
 :bug_eye that's scandalous, how much is a plane ticket?

I have seen a replacement made from tyre wall sections bolted together that was lasting well after 5k km.

I've often considered trying to make a roller version but too lazy to take it further  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: 93TigerBill-2016 on November 08, 2022, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 08, 2022, 12:26:44 PM:bug_eye that's scandalous, how much is a plane ticket?

 
Damn right!  I've seen a fabricated version for UHMWPE (not sure whether on here or another forum), think I'll have another go with better quality material.  Think I've found a supplier after consulting a couple of mech. engineer/fitter acquaintances.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Beernard on November 12, 2022, 10:30:33 AM
Gday Bill.

Being a tightarse, and not wanting to wait for the part, I made one. Out of cutting board. It has lasted 3000k with some to go. I must say that prior to this, I chewed through a Triumph unit very quickly. Got over it and moved on. I will try to attach some pics, but I reckon you already get it.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: 93TigerBill-2016 on November 13, 2022, 03:38:36 AM
Hi Bernard,
I should be able to check a few local suppliers of specialised plastics this week, we'll see how we go at fabbing (another) one.
Regards,
Bill
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Beernard on November 13, 2022, 06:24:31 AM
Hi Bill. Here's a couple of pix. I was happy to find that the bracket has nice holes pre-drilled!

All the best.

Bern.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: 93TigerBill-2016 on November 13, 2022, 10:48:54 PM
Thx Bern, on my first attempt I cut a groove in a solid block. You idea looks like it works - and much easier to fab!
Bill
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Beernard on November 14, 2022, 08:35:13 AM
Hope it helps, Bill. Thousands of K's on the cutting-board now!
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Madruss on November 15, 2022, 09:06:57 PM
Thanks for your effort  :><
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: IGP on November 22, 2022, 10:41:21 AM
https://www.triumphrat.net/threads/how-long-does-a-chain-slider-last.936800/

i  made one from polyamide PA6. It is a very hard material, thus difficult to treat, but it lasts, no wear for 5k kmh
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: nightrunner on November 28, 2022, 09:36:05 AM
That is a nice upgrade in the pics. If you have access to an industrial supply vendor, you could get a block of teflon and make it out of that. Here in the states a firm called McMaster Carr is great for weird stuff like that.

BTW, the stock piece will also fall apart over time if you don't wear it out from riding. I have a pristine 98 "on display" in my garage. One day I saw this greasy chunk of rubber under the bike. The rubber had just gotten soft and fell off. So there's some extra incentive to build a better one.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: London_Phil on November 28, 2022, 09:55:59 AM
I wish we had a McMaster Carr in the UK. Went to the States for some training, and they used them for hardware. They had the catalogue, it had everything..
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: fishnbiker on November 30, 2022, 06:11:09 AM
Quote from: Beernard on November 13, 2022, 06:24:31 AMHi Bill. Here's a couple of pix. I was happy to find that the bracket has nice holes pre-drilled!

All the best.

Bern.

I did something similar for the bottom side of the swing arm to keep the chain off the metal after a badly stretched chain incident wore a gouges into the bearings surround. Nylon block carved with a spindle & belt sander. These photos show some 40,000km of gravel road lack of wear. Screen Shot 2022-11-29 at 21.03.46.png
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: 93TigerBill-2016 on December 01, 2022, 11:27:15 PM
Thx Ken, did see that option, good to see lack of wear.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: fishnbiker on December 08, 2022, 05:58:40 AM
Quote from: 93TigerBill-2016 on December 01, 2022, 11:27:15 PMThx Ken, did see that option, good to see lack of wear.

That was all run with DID Gold X ring chain with several years of dusty/muddy/sandy/rocky roads.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Beernard on December 13, 2022, 09:05:16 AM
Nice work Ken. I love it. Inspiration for us all. More than one way to skin an axolotl, they say!
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Madruss on April 29, 2023, 11:56:02 PM
Quote from: Beernard on November 13, 2022, 06:24:31 AMHi Bill. Here's a couple of pix. I was happy to find that the bracket has nice holes pre-drilled!
All the best. Bern.

Nice, another job/project to attend to, while I'm in the mood  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Matthewittnz on December 01, 2023, 12:11:29 PM
Hey all,
Just thought I would show what I have just done to replace a worn out slider block on my tiger, I am yet to ride the bike but it appears to look like it will work as intended.
The roller costs around 12nzd and is a pretty generic chain roller20231201_162108.jpg20231201_161923.jpg20231201_161929.jpg20231201_163109.jpg20231201_163114.jpg20231201_163142.jpg       for Suzuki/kawasaki/Honda motox bikes.
From memory it measures 32dia-28width with an 8 mm inner diameter through bearings for bolt.
Beauty of this setup is you can reuse old work out slider bracket.
I just bolted the bracket onto the outside of the mounting point rather than the inside where it normally attaches to get the correct offset for the roller, also used a few washers to get it sitting central on chain.

If this is lifting the chain to high I will move the roller down a hole in the bracket and if this is not enough I will just skim Abita of the "hook" part of the bracket to lower the roller some more, but as is I think this should work well and last for yonks. All up I think it cost around $15nzd.
Hope this helps somebody
Cheers Matt
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Matthewittnz on December 01, 2023, 12:15:28 PM
Sorry about the double up of pics,new to this! Cheers Matt
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: 93TigerBill-2016 on December 01, 2023, 10:36:09 PM
Thx Matt, That is a cool option!
Do you have a specific part number by any chance?
Keen to hear how it goes!
Bill
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Beernard on December 05, 2023, 04:59:38 AM
Great work, Matt!
Very neat and looks highly likely to be an excellent upgrade.
Thanks, Bern.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Madruss on January 02, 2024, 10:34:23 PM
Quote from: Beernard on December 05, 2023, 04:59:38 AMGreat work, Matt!
Very neat and looks highly likely to be an excellent upgrade.
Thanks, Bern.
Yes great work.
I purchased a spring loaded version from Ryans Motorcycles in Parramatta for my first bike, a Montessa 247 Cota. That was 1976! It was a clamp on to the swing arm set up with a similar roller.
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: 93TigerBill-2016 on January 03, 2024, 10:59:55 PM
Hey Russ,
Parallel lines....
My second 'bike was a Cota 247, after a Yamaha DT2, as I caught the 'Trials' bug.
Great way to learn to ride!
Title: Re: Chain Slider Block
Post by: Madruss on January 04, 2024, 06:55:54 AM
Quote from: 93TigerBill-2016 on January 03, 2024, 10:59:55 PMHey Russ,
Parallel lines....
My second 'bike was a Cota 247, after a Yamaha DT2, as I caught the 'Trials' bug.
Great way to learn to ride!

Buying a trials bike I got laughed at by mates who were inflicted with the moto cross bug  :wheel
After doing logistics for my eldest son & his mates, the Finke Desert Race 2012, being bikeless since 2005, I had the 2 wheel bug once more, purchasing a WR450F. One of the best bikes I've ever owned.
I went to our big local trail ride (Upper Horton, NW, NSW) on it. Not having ridden dirt bikes since 1989, I thought, here we go again. :icon_redface: 
I had the last laugh :ImaPoser  All these young D heads on their big time MX bikes couldn't make it up some squirrelly inclines, bikes & riders A over T.
Using my long ago acquired trials skills, chugged straight past. I stopped for a rest a klm further on, helmet off, several of the recently fallen pulled up next to me, with jaws on the ground  :bug_eye couldn't believe an old overwieght grey beard made it up the hill in one go.  :thumbsup  :icon_biggrin:
EhPortal 1.34 © 2024, WebDev