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Title: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: mat-tiger1 on December 05, 2021, 09:45:36 AM
Nickcalne and my good self are headed to this year's MCL on Sunday the 12th Dec & I wondered if anyone else was going along?  :wheel :thumbsup

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Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Lee337 on December 05, 2021, 11:46:37 AM
Not this year, tgought about it but still can't get Mrs L to travel into the city (I'll spend too much if I go by myself & won't even have someone to help me carry stuff home).
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: London_Phil on December 05, 2021, 06:19:17 PM
General Consensus on Reddit is its smaller and quieter this year. Yamaha not attending, and reduced number of Traders.
Not for me this year..
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Nick Calne on December 05, 2021, 11:33:26 PM
No doubt it is. But we have to do things to live a life worth living. And right now it is what we have got. :occasion14
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 06, 2021, 12:12:21 AM
Quote from: Nick Calne on December 05, 2021, 11:33:26 PM
And right now it is what we have got. :occasion14

All we had was a "Steps" concert, and look what happened with that  :BangHead
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: ghulst on December 06, 2021, 08:55:40 AM
I did see some pics from TeapotOne. How was it? It's been two years since we had a motorcycle show here. ;)
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Nick Calne on December 06, 2021, 11:07:01 PM
Much as cancelling a Steps concert would be a small mercy for all concerned I do get the feeling Nicola Sturgeon dislikes people having fun perhaps preferring the rather authoritarian shutting down of this and that.

I'm sure Ivor and I will post up a report on MCL. Hopefully not from hospital!
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: London_Phil on December 10, 2021, 05:31:11 PM
Enjoy your trip, brave explorers..
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: mat-tiger1 on December 17, 2021, 10:18:55 AM
I think we may have lost Nick to the dark side! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211217/2dd890103d0d9933723bf5c4e92dac8c.jpg)


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Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 17, 2021, 08:53:01 PM
Looks like he is auditioning for the part of a baddie in a Bourne sequel  :mut
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: mat-tiger1 on December 17, 2021, 10:08:13 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/CoDp6NnSmItoY/giphy.gif)


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Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: London_Phil on December 17, 2021, 10:31:50 PM
Think Nick may have brought something else back from MCL too....
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Nick Calne on December 18, 2021, 01:29:21 AM
OK, yes yes, OK, so I brought the girl from the Ducati stand back. :love10
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Chris Canning on December 18, 2021, 08:53:49 PM
Went too the NEC...walked out in the end...way too many people  :icon_sad:
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 18, 2021, 10:42:26 PM
 :nono
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: ghulst on December 18, 2021, 11:00:30 PM
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on December 17, 2021, 10:18:55 AM
I think we may have lost Nick to the dark side! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211217/2dd890103d0d9933723bf5c4e92dac8c.jpg)


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Finally someone who can appreciate a 250 for what it is... A great addition to your red carpet. ;)


Obviously, this has triggered an interest in all other inappropriate pictures from MCL. :D
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Chris Canning on December 19, 2021, 09:52:08 AM
We had a very simple plan for the NEC let rush go by sat/Sunday and go Monday, had a phone call Saturday empty....unfortunately they all had the same idea and Monday was a rugby scrum.
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 19, 2021, 11:00:17 AM
Quote from: Chris Canning on December 19, 2021, 09:52:08 AM
We had a very simple plan for the NEC let rush go by sat/Sunday and go Monday, had a phone call Saturday empty....unfortunately they all had the same idea and Monday was a rugby scrum.

The exhibitors wouldn't know what had hit them  :icon_eek: A lot of people looking for close out bargains  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: London_Phil on December 19, 2021, 11:11:26 AM
So Mr Nick and Ivor, are we getting a report?
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: mat-tiger1 on December 19, 2021, 01:47:44 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on December 19, 2021, 11:11:26 AM
So Mr Nick and Ivor, are we getting a report?
Not much to report I'm afraid Phil, compared to previous years MCL was certainly down on attendance on the Sunday we went along.
The main players seemed to be all in place but smaller, accessories and riding gear guys were noticeably lacking!  (particularly noticeable because both Nick & I were searching for some bargains on riding gear!)
I went over on my bike and I must say, convenient (right next to the main halls) & secure parking was available. Every biker had a wristband matched to one on their bike which was checked upon entry & exit from the undercover parking area.
We were going to ride in the "Adventure Experience zone" but it was fully booked up for the morning session & when went back at 13:00 to book for the afternoon session the queues were just crazy long. So we didn't bother. A shame really because Nick wanted to get his leg over (steady now) the new CRF300 which was available to test ride. He did manage to get his wish on the stand a little later though!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211219/269ff9421e5931442fd12a58a52d8df8.jpg)

You can tell by his grin that he was loving it!
Of course we paid homage to the Triumph stand in order to chat to the Adventure Experience guys and talk about possible future adventure holidays and also to get a look at the new 1200 Tiger. It turns out that it seems to be everything that was promised/expected and maybe a bit more perhaps? Test rides of course will prove or disprove the changes made, but just on looks it appears to have what it takes to challenge BMW in that market sector.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211219/8e6ca815728444a836f8f6fe19eba0f5.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211219/d2400e0056711647fbd8d63b6907ebc0.jpg)

I for one will pop along to any future MCL's regardless of this year's experience even if it's just a chance to meet up with old mates and chat sh*t about bikes & life in general!


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Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: ghulst on December 19, 2021, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on December 19, 2021, 01:47:44 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211219/269ff9421e5931442fd12a58a52d8df8.jpg)
I like the idea of this bike. I have understood that you'll need to sort out the suspension. And I'm still not sure about those two 'eyes' on the front. ;)

Did you see this Nick? https://youtu.be/bTnuoczs3tw (https://youtu.be/bTnuoczs3tw)
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: London_Phil on December 19, 2021, 04:17:57 PM
Yep, Noraly putting us all to shame...
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: ghulst on December 19, 2021, 05:55:30 PM
Well, at least she is out and about. We're in another lockdown, which means I am stuck behind my camera again...

But, in general, I love watching her videos.
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 19, 2021, 08:55:51 PM
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on December 19, 2021, 01:47:44 PM
I went over on my bike and I must say, convenient (right next to the main halls) & secure parking was available. Every biker had a wristband matched to one on their bike which was checked upon entry & exit from the undercover parking area.

Simple and effective  :thumbsup
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Chris Canning on December 19, 2021, 08:57:02 PM
Interesting reading these posts....I haven't sold a bike in over 20 years...just bought e'm so still plenty of stock....but while wandering around the Bike show my thoughts were about my first electric bike, cuz that's the way it going like it or not, had a good look at the Energica...and now the electric motocrosser Stark Varg the wind is blowing one way....and now I read Ducati have a track bike as well.
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: London_Phil on December 19, 2021, 09:44:16 PM
Am I correct in thinking Triumph are developing an Electric bike?
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Chris Canning on December 19, 2021, 10:25:00 PM
Logic says they are all going to have to produce one, start of this coved lark...and me being the pessimist....said to my other I can see this being long haul, and we swapped our two normal mountain bikes for the latest all singing all dancing electric option and it's been an eye opener so god knows what is to come in the motorcycle line.
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: London_Phil on December 19, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/inside-triumph/project-triumph-te-1/phase-2
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Nick Calne on December 19, 2021, 11:48:13 PM
Thanks Arne, I shall take a look. Been a while since I watched Itchy Boots. I am never quite sure whether I am watching her just for the motorcycle content.

And yeah those eyes on the 300 are a bit o.O or perhaps  :icon_eek: :bug_eye

I enjoyed the show. It was fun. My takeaways were...

The norden is just a ktm in a frock.
The tiger 1200 is really good.
Mosko moto bags don't fit an Africa twin.
Someone with an adv specific clothing stand could do very well.
I would like a 300.
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Nick Calne on December 20, 2021, 12:03:49 AM
Quote from: ghulst on December 19, 2021, 05:55:30 PM
Well, at least she is out and about. We're in another lockdown

How is she let out and you not?
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: ghulst on December 20, 2021, 08:34:29 AM
Quote from: London_Phil on December 19, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/inside-triumph/project-triumph-te-1/phase-2 (https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/inside-triumph/project-triumph-te-1/phase-2)
It looks interesting, but where is the Tiger? ;)


Quote from: Chris Canning on December 19, 2021, 10:25:00 PM
Logic says they are all going to have to produce one, start of this coved lark...and me being the pessimist....said to my other I can see this being long haul, and we swapped our two normal mountain bikes for the latest all singing all dancing electric option and it's been an eye opener so god knows what is to come in the motorcycle line.
I have ridden both Zero DS/R and SR/F and Energica Essesss 9 and I have to say that I love the electric option. Probably not on a long-range travel bike, but great for commuting and having some hooligan fun on. For now, the trouble will be for the longer rides. I would like a bike that could do the round trip to Rotterdam on a single charge, as I do travel there and back for business without enough time to recharge or time to find a charging station. And that is a hassle. Both these bikes are great, but not if you live close to a motorway, then do 75 for an hour and 75 for an hour back. They are not built for it (yet). But I am sure they will be in the near future. Then, the only thing we'll need gas bikes for are those 600+km iron buts that people "like" to do or trips into the desert somewhere that people really only dream of...


Quote from: Nick Calne on December 19, 2021, 11:48:13 PM
I enjoyed the show. It was fun. My takeaways were...

The norden is just a ktm in a frock.
The tiger 1200 is really good.
Mosko moto bags don't fit an Africa twin.
Someone with an adv specific clothing stand could do very well.
I would like a 300.


- I get it, though I would have hoped they would have improved on the switch gear...
- It looks that way. I will reserve my judgement until I have ridden one.
- Really? That is strange. I would expect them to make bags for it.
- That surprises me as well. Were guys like Revit, Klim, Rukka not at MCL? They make some great (expensive) stuff.
- Agreed. Though I say that of a lot of bikes, but that CRF looks very interesting. Though I think that, at the same weight and slightly over a tenth of the price, I will stick with my KTM 640 for now. Hope to get some work done on that over the Christmas holiday.


Quote from: Nick Calne on December 20, 2021, 12:03:49 AM
How is she let out and you not?
Basically, we are all able to go out, that is not the problem. Non-essential shops are closed, so that is the main thing. However, she's flown to Ecuador a couple of weeks ago, so she is not actually here.
I do like her videos and I really think she has improved a lot in her series 4 and 5 and you really see that in 6 again as well. Lots of dirt riding on a 300 in this one. ;)
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 20, 2021, 12:47:24 PM
Surprised you can't fit the Mosko Moto bags to the AT, I have a Backcountry original set with the mounting plates if you want to give them a try. The mounting plates are meant to go onto just about any racks with suitable clamps, or rusty angle iron / rebar / dexion etc.
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Nick Calne on December 20, 2021, 02:52:46 PM
That's very kind of you but its the rackless system I had my eye on.  I'm going to take this issue off to another thread to avoid polluting this one.
Title: Re: MCL 2021 Anyone?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 20, 2021, 02:54:23 PM
 :thumbsup
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