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#31
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Steamer with bad habbits
Last post by London_Phil - April 16, 2024, 04:39:33 PMLeftfield, but how's the petrol flow?, the tank filter can collapse and starve the bike, as well as a tiny filter in the Tee near the carbs.
#32
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Steamer with bad habbits
Last post by Titus - April 16, 2024, 04:23:26 PMNothing worked, alternator charging fine, also fixed DAR, fitted brand new pickup coil, no difference, bike starts then stops, sometimes no spark at all.
I'm out of ideas, cdi is on the way but ebay estimates 30'th this month, and of course its a second hand part, who knows if it works...
Anyone have a spare, working cdi?
WHAT ELSE CAN I CHECK?!?!
I'm out of ideas, cdi is on the way but ebay estimates 30'th this month, and of course its a second hand part, who knows if it works...
Anyone have a spare, working cdi?
WHAT ELSE CAN I CHECK?!?!
#33
Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) / Re: Believe it or not... start...
Last post by the slow heart - April 16, 2024, 02:53:47 PMHere is how I messed up with the loom 
https://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,17268.0.html
Too much contacts/ connections on both plus and minus side of the chain to the starter/ solenoid.
I cleaned thoroughly all of them and had the problem two times more,
one with the lights in the dark rainy night abroad, and one with the solenoid in a chilly morning also abroad and away. My conclusion is that the installation is old and all sockets/ connectors pins seats get weak and develop some slack. Contact is lost from time to time, irregularly, due to vibrations and bumpy rides, but not only. The perfect cure is to replace all sockets/ plugs/ connectors with new one, watertight. It is not an easy fix but is reliable. The walk around is to 'cure' the pin seats inside connectors. Most of them are small and fragile, so pinching is not good. You could use multi-thread thin copper wire to cut small U-shaped wires and to thick in each pin hole a couple of them ( depending how thin are the cut out wire pieces ). When plugging in the connectors after, noticeable effort should be felt, corresponding to the tighter fit of each pin in the socket. Best sockets/ groups to start are the alarm connector inside the tail and both connectors from the handlebar controls ( behind the headlights ). Emergency solenoid power line of course won't harm
https://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,17268.0.html
Too much contacts/ connections on both plus and minus side of the chain to the starter/ solenoid.
I cleaned thoroughly all of them and had the problem two times more,
one with the lights in the dark rainy night abroad, and one with the solenoid in a chilly morning also abroad and away. My conclusion is that the installation is old and all sockets/ connectors pins seats get weak and develop some slack. Contact is lost from time to time, irregularly, due to vibrations and bumpy rides, but not only. The perfect cure is to replace all sockets/ plugs/ connectors with new one, watertight. It is not an easy fix but is reliable. The walk around is to 'cure' the pin seats inside connectors. Most of them are small and fragile, so pinching is not good. You could use multi-thread thin copper wire to cut small U-shaped wires and to thick in each pin hole a couple of them ( depending how thin are the cut out wire pieces ). When plugging in the connectors after, noticeable effort should be felt, corresponding to the tighter fit of each pin in the socket. Best sockets/ groups to start are the alarm connector inside the tail and both connectors from the handlebar controls ( behind the headlights ). Emergency solenoid power line of course won't harm
#34
Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) / Re: Surging at 3-4k RPM
Last post by the slow heart - April 16, 2024, 11:34:15 AMWhy exactly OEM gauge, you could easily improvise with another pressure gauge reading max at least 5 Bar.
Pump voltage also, the el.socket is not super tight, so two thin wires could be put in the female orifices before plugging the socket, then use these two for your volt meter.
Have to check was there an easy way to clear long term trims.
Pump voltage also, the el.socket is not super tight, so two thin wires could be put in the female orifices before plugging the socket, then use these two for your volt meter.
Have to check was there an easy way to clear long term trims.
#35
Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) / Re: Surging at 3-4k RPM
Last post by Flyingwombat - April 15, 2024, 11:09:16 PMCleaning injectors did not help...
My long term fuel trim seems to have set itself really weird too, was down at -60, I have tried to reset this, but unfortunately the slider on the TuneECU app is playing up (only for the trim) and if I select any number highlighted it jumps to another random number, ie. -10 jumps to +80 and then 0 to -80 and +10 to +60. Doesn't make sense so have a TuneECU query on this as it seems to be a UI issue on the app.
The engine is quite sporadic now, it's fluctuations have worsened, at idle it will stall or bring itself up to around 3000rpm.
On the plus side I think I'm getting there. The fuel pump is noise when priming is getting worse, a very noticeable squeal now. Considering replacing that, the fuel pressure regulator and the filter. Could do with measuring the fuel pressure really but the Triumph part is extortionate. Does anyone know how to read the pump voltage?
My long term fuel trim seems to have set itself really weird too, was down at -60, I have tried to reset this, but unfortunately the slider on the TuneECU app is playing up (only for the trim) and if I select any number highlighted it jumps to another random number, ie. -10 jumps to +80 and then 0 to -80 and +10 to +60. Doesn't make sense so have a TuneECU query on this as it seems to be a UI issue on the app.
The engine is quite sporadic now, it's fluctuations have worsened, at idle it will stall or bring itself up to around 3000rpm.
On the plus side I think I'm getting there. The fuel pump is noise when priming is getting worse, a very noticeable squeal now. Considering replacing that, the fuel pressure regulator and the filter. Could do with measuring the fuel pressure really but the Triumph part is extortionate. Does anyone know how to read the pump voltage?
#36
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: 955i side stand a direct f...
Last post by Titus - April 15, 2024, 09:47:35 PMI once had a VFR750 bury itself into soft heatsoaked tarmac, went for drinks and when I got back barely got the thing out 
+1 on the pad, she is one heavy mother.
+1 on the pad, she is one heavy mother.
#37
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Steamer with bad habbits
Last post by Titus - April 15, 2024, 09:42:43 PMNever did it Phil, always backed up by car battery, thanks for the head up, well if it should run it doesnt, just behaves like in the video.
My tiger has the fat white running up the main harness, no connection to the battery, called it up and goes to a con block then to the ign switch. So...same as in the wiring diagram.
Behaves like the cdi runs out of juice to feed the coils, doesn't look the same to you? Starts the runs progressively less. Already checked all connections so I'm out, pickup coil arrived today, will change it after I fit the alternator and check how it goes. If both these parts dont fix her, we will have to wait for the cdi to get here (hoping it's a good one). Guess it's time to start throwing parts at her until she wakes up.
Wish me luck.You cannot see attachments on this board.
My tiger has the fat white running up the main harness, no connection to the battery, called it up and goes to a con block then to the ign switch. So...same as in the wiring diagram.
Behaves like the cdi runs out of juice to feed the coils, doesn't look the same to you? Starts the runs progressively less. Already checked all connections so I'm out, pickup coil arrived today, will change it after I fit the alternator and check how it goes. If both these parts dont fix her, we will have to wait for the cdi to get here (hoping it's a good one). Guess it's time to start throwing parts at her until she wakes up.
Wish me luck.You cannot see attachments on this board.
#38
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Steamer with bad habbits
Last post by London_Phil - April 15, 2024, 08:42:38 PMFat white goes direct to battery via a fuse. Brown one goes to the switched live circuits, so yes one is live at all times. Alternator outputs the dc charging voltage, as it contains all the charging components, ie stator and rectifier/regulator system.
Bike should run without the alternator.
BUT ...DO NOT USE THE STARTER WITH A WEAK BATTERY....YOU WILL DESTROY THE STARTER SPRAG CLUTCH.
Just don't do it. Unless you have a very early engine with an access cover, you run the risk of a serious repair.
Bike should run without the alternator.
BUT ...DO NOT USE THE STARTER WITH A WEAK BATTERY....YOU WILL DESTROY THE STARTER SPRAG CLUTCH.
Just don't do it. Unless you have a very early engine with an access cover, you run the risk of a serious repair.
#39
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Steamer with bad habbits
Last post by Titus - April 15, 2024, 08:25:24 PMAlternator has 2 wires, fat white one and little brown one, white one has 12v when ign off, voltage drops when ign on, brown one has 12v all the time, measured against the big mass screwed between the alternator and engine block, is that normal? What is the alt supposed to output? Have the manual and wiring diagram, just cant figure it out. Is the bike supposed to run without the alt? If you see my video, sure looks like a volt supply problem, hope to get the alt back tomorrow.
#40
Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) / Re: Believe it or not... start...
Last post by jcbrnld - April 15, 2024, 07:17:39 PMWhen the signal side is given 12v (starter button input) it fires.
The switch works at least to some extent because lights dim when it is pressed.
The switch works at least to some extent because lights dim when it is pressed.
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