Poll
Question:
USA trip
Option 1: USA 2017
votes: 5
Option 2: Somewhere else
votes: 0
Right, there was a suggestion that some of the UK guys would like to go to the USA for the 2016 meet. This thread is to discuss whether it would be doable, where to go, logistics etc. Off -topic posts will be deleted without warning.
To throw in my comments from earlier, the BSA/Triumph UK club do an overseas jaunt every two years. they do it by organising a 40 container and filling it with previously lashed-down bikes then shipping it to the destination. Everyone flies out, gets their bike does the ride and then the reverse coming back. They are bikeless for about 6-8 weeks either side of the trip to allow for shipping. I could get a lot of the information on the "how" and "cost" from my contact in the club if there's enough interest to make it worth my time.
My suggestion, and mainly because I've been there and it's just about the closest, is New England. And we could all go visit Mustang!
Over to y'all....
And at risk of stating the bleedin' obvious, this is a huge continent. You will not be able to see everything so it would be best to get consensus on which part you all want to focus on. Presumably the less shipping distance the less the cost....?? If you come to the east and want to head to the west (and assuming you are not Iron Butt types) you should allow a month, especially if you are going to have to return to the point of arrival.
And don't discount the great white north, aka Canada. I'm biased, of course. :icon_wink:
Quote from: nickjtc on August 13, 2014, 09:53:30 PM
And at risk of stating the bleedin' obvious, this is a huge continent. You will not be able to see everything so it would be best to get consensus on which part you all want to focus on.
That was what I was thinking too. Get an idea of what you want to see and then explore the options on getting there.
Well the East coast is probably much more achievable in every way. Shall we start with that?
Quote from: nickcalne on August 13, 2014, 11:41:11 PM
Well the East coast is probably much more achievable in every way. Shall we start with that?
And then maybe us west coast and northern types can plan to meet up with you somewhere in between...???
I'm up for it :thumbsup
Thank you for your phone call earlier.
I have based rates on the following shipments:
1. You will delivery your 6 Triumph Tiger motorcycles into our depot near Heathrow (We can also arrange collection if you prefer) where we will pack, ship to Los Angeles and clear through customs ready for you to fly in and collect from our LA depot (About 20 mins taxi ride from LAX).
2. At the end of your trip you will then drop your 6 Triumph Tiger motorcycles into our New York depot (We can also arrange collection if you prefer) where we will pack, ship to UK and clear through customs ready for you to collect from our Felixstowe depot.
The price will £8097. This equates to £1350 per bike. If you had say 12 bikes to fill a 40' container I suspect the per bike price will fall to around £1195 per bike. (Please allow a transit time of approximately 5 weeks each way).
This includes packing, freight, fuel surcharges, documentation, handling and export/import clearances.
For temporary import into the U.S you will require prior approval from the EPA. This is a straightforward procedure and please see the instructions attached with this email.
We can also arrange insurance to cover loss or damage of your motorcycle during both the outbound and return transits. This is based on 2% of the bikes value + freight + 10%.
I hope this helps with your planning and please do let me know if you would like any further details at this stage.
This is an email of a shipping company here, just as a guide line
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Arriving on one coast and departing on the other is a good idea.
Quote from: nickjtc on August 14, 2014, 05:01:25 PM
Arriving on one coast and departing on the other is a good idea.
:thumbsup
Ok just spoke to another company who can ship to LA for roughly 3k for a 20 foot container which would hold about 6 to 7 bikes then back from the East coast again for about 3 k so that would be 6k shared between 7 of us to you Sir about £860 per bike, you would need a Carnet of the RAC and cover your cost of your own flights and ex's whilst in the States. Oh dear I'm getting excited :icon_lol:
If there was enough interested we could get a 40 foot container the price would go up but only by about a third. so say 14 bikes at about 8k return is to you Sir, about £571 shipping could be arranged from a central point ie Brum or Liverpool.
It may cost a little more say £200 ish for shipping a hazardous container ie bikes with batteries and some petrol in, but this would mean we get to LA meet the agent pick the bikes up and ride off. :thumbsup
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Spud, good work. I think the BEEZumph trip to New Zealand ran at about £750 per bike in a forty footer so the prices are about right and quickly works out cheaper than bike hire. I like the plan to ride right across the USA, it would give Tiger owners over there the chance to meet up with us if they wish. I'm in.
There are companies that allow you to hire a bike (including a range of tigers) on one side of the states and drop it off on the other. Have a look...
http://www.eaglerider.com/vehicle-accessories.aspx?ComponentID=24292 (http://www.eaglerider.com/vehicle-accessories.aspx?ComponentID=24292)
Email sent :eusa_clap
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Fair play to you if you go I've thought about it for years when faced with the reality not for me.
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I think I know what you mean Chris, it could be a lot like off-shore sailing. Everyone thinks it's a fantastic thing to do, but the reality is somewhat different.
There's the exited anticipation before the event, the buzz as you get the bike / boat ready, the leaving with loads of wannabees looking on - which is fun - the endless hours of exhaustion, boredom, lack of sleep, rain, cold, rain, heat, rain, the arriving with loads of wannabees looking on - which is fun- the cleaning of the boat / bike the endlessly recounting the good bits -and the bad bits - over a beer etc etc.....
Accepting, of course, that the road trip has scenery whereas the ocean is just the ocean except when it's mountainous, then it's effing frightening :bug_eye
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Hi John,
Thank you for choosing to contact EagleRider! I can definitely assist you in making this happen, but I'll need to know when you would like to pick-up and drop off as well as what city you wish to pick-up and drop off at.
Once I have this information I can get you all the information you'll need.
Kind regards,
Samuel Madrid
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EagleRider Corporate
11860 S. La Cienega Blvd.
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p: 310.536.6777 [ext. 1169]
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cheers Spud :thumbsup
Would it be cheaper/easier to hire Tigers out there?
Quote from: threepot on August 19, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Would it be cheaper/easier to hire Tigers out there?
If you did the trip in 1 week, the rental fee on a Tiger would be $1834USD (approx $262USD per day) at today's rate unless some kind of group deal could be set up. This is a coast to coast ride. If the bike was rented and returned to the same location you would not be charged the relocation fee of approximately $735USD.
The big problem with shipping the bike would be 10 weeks without a bike in summer. I'm taking mine as hand luggage. Steamers weigh less than 25kg, right? :icon_eek:
Missouri's in the middle.
Somebody should rent mine. Fly here, ride with your buddies, fly back.
I work too much in the summers to participate myself, maybe meet up with a group if you come close by, for example through Arkansas.
If my meager possessions will help somebody just ask, place to work on bikes, shower off, have parts delivered, store a bike, etc.
Sounds like getting here will be half your fun.
Damn kind offer, you might wake up the next morning and find your garage empty :ImaPoser
Quote from: nickcalne on August 19, 2014, 08:30:29 PM
The big problem with shipping the bike would be 10 weeks without a bike in summer.
Of course there are some of us here who might say that a month of riding over here would more than satiate the riding urge so that losing 5 weeks at each end would not matter! :icon_lol:
And there are others who might say, very quietly, this is a good excuse to have a second bike :augie :augie
6 votes so far by the look of it, so that could be a container full. I am away in Spain for 2 weeks from this Saturday the Tiger going to get some sun and play in the twisties in the Pyrenees.
So if there's enough genuine interest in the states trip when I get back I can do some serious research and get some price's together or if people would like a European trip Norway or Austria for instance I could look at that as well
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Not wishing to hijack the thread, but, has there ever been any effort from the group this side of the Atlantic to organise a get together here?
Quote from: nickjtc on August 21, 2014, 05:28:56 PM
Not wishing to hijack the thread, but, has there ever been any effort from the group this side of the Atlantic to organise a get together here?
there have been a few ..............
Jasper Arkansas (a few times)
West Va
Western Pennsylvania
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Quote from: Spud on August 21, 2014, 02:30:35 PM
6 votes so far by the look of it, so that could be a container full. I am away in Spain for 2 weeks from this Saturday the Tiger going to get some sun and play in the twisties in the Pyrenees.
So if there's enough genuine interest in the states trip when I get back I can do some serious research and get some price's together or if people would like a European trip Norway or Austria for instance I could look at that as well
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Hi guys, I just voted & as much as I'd love to ride in the states, :icon_cool::rock (& I'm not ruling it out :augie)
I think a European tour might be financially more viable for most with possibly more takers? :icon_scratch:
We could arrange to meet up a with our European Tiger owning cousins en route perhaps? :wheel
Just a suggestion. :thumbsup
Just back from the Pyrenees and was thinking the same, I have a mate down there that would be more than happy to put a guide together for us. The roads are absolutely stunning mile upon mile of race track condition flat top with very little traffic on them. Cops seem friendly first hand experience, he asked me why I was in Spain and I replied to race around on your glorious roads, he checked the number plate and then said "English sorry did not realise, have a great holiday" and walked off. Thought I was up for a ticket at least.
Another time I did a couple of cars out of a tight hairpin only to realise the first car was a plod motor, they just waved as I was going past when I immediately sat up, they laughed. But a mate did get a ticket so perhaps they are all not like it.
If people are interested I can put some plans together
cheers Spud :thumbsup
I did the 10 countries run earlier this year ( http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,13783.0.html ) & although it was long days & lots of miles, i wouldn't mind going back to some of the countries and taking a bit more time to explore! :icon_biggrin:
If there were enough of us interested we could book bunkhouses, campsites etc along the way? Meet up with other Tigertriple.com members over there & see a little of the roads/trails they have to offer? :icon_cool:
Oh & don't forget the beer!! :occasion14
Why not 'Euro' meet in 2015?? I know Wales has been selected,but a meet outside the UK would be a change. Wales in 2016?Always wanted to ride northern Spain,up thru France :nod
Quote from: threepot on September 09, 2014, 05:36:03 PM
Why not 'Euro' meet in 2015?? I know Wales has been selected,but a meet outside the UK would be a change. Wales in 2016?Always wanted to ride northern Spain,up thru France :nod
Down through France across the Pyrenees and back up through France ?
cheers Spud :thumbsup
via Rhayader :icon_lol:
For those who may be interested in a wee trip to Spain. Catalonia dates might be something like 31st August or the 7th September
cheers Spud :thumbsup
or a Trip to Aragon between 11th to the 15th of may for a little light off road and lots of quality on roads
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Maybe this thread should be re-started as a 'Is a Tiger Meet Europe worth doing?'.................??
Quote from: nickjtc on September 11, 2014, 03:59:32 PM
Maybe this thread should be re-started as a 'Is a Tiger Meet Europe worth doing?'.................??
:nono I still want to go to the US.
To be honest I'll go anywhere if it means more of us can go. US is preferred though.
As I said if there's enough interest to warrant a container and it's affordable States here we come. But we can still chuck in a little Pyrenees trip :thumbsup
http://thespanishbiker.wordpress.com/
have a look at this web site
cheers Spud :thumbsup
So it looks like 5 or 6 of us interested in the States o I will look closer at the cost's of shipping our bikes.
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Go for it mate, were right behind you :mut
:iagree
:iagree too.
Count me in .......BUT, I don't need to ship anything
if yall go through with this i am on the east coast(georgia) and would love to join in possibly even ride solo to meet you at the start we will see how the tiger is feeling by 2016
if you stay to the south you will find the people to be much more hospitable (although we dousn use english good)
just my .2
If you make it over here I would definitely want to meet up and ride a bit. Do you know about the Trans America Trail? I'm not sure what your timeline is, but look it up. :wheel
Intro yourself WhiteWarrior
What you ride ? Are you in Ouachita mtns?
My youngest + family are probably moving to LA so if you chaps/chapesses from Blighty do come over to this side of the water and choose the west coast it will be an easy decision to join you.
I'm thinking of heading that way next year, anyway, for the annual 'long' road trip.
PS. Are there in fact any chapesses on this forum, apart from sig. others??
@Moto
I ride a 95 Triumph Tiger. I'm based in Harrison Ar.
Quote from: threepot on September 09, 2014, 05:36:03 PM
Why not 'Euro' meet in 2015?? I know Wales has been selected,but a meet outside the UK would be a change. Wales in 2016?Always wanted to ride northern Spain,up thru France :nod
The trouble with that is that it's not a weekend trip like our UK meets.
As for voting for which trip I'd like to do in 2016. Well, I've already done all of them at one time or another. But, as I'm planning to retire in March 2016, I wouldn't mind doing any of them again. However, I was planning on shipping to south America late that year. Kin'ell, I don't know! :^_^
hey you brits should investigate shipping to from the northern part (i.e. the part with less guns) of north america - e.g. vancouver to halifax or vice versa. I don't know this for certain, but I understand that there may be some advantages, apart from the obvious one of seeing at least a few bits of the country that, inexplicably, most english folks never seem to visit, since the english seem to have this fetishistic fascination for all things 'murrican... hmmm, could it be that we're mostly descended from the scots? or is it just that we (mostly) speak english properly... don't get me wrong - I love both our british and 'murrican cousins and have travelled extensively through both...
Anyway, a couple of years ago, I had met an irish guy when I was wandering on one of my m'bikes south of the line, and he had seen my saskatchewan plates and stopped me and we chatted quite a bit - ha had actually been through western canada including saskatchewan and had stayed in saskatoon (the hidden gem of canadian cities) and we ended up riding together for the next couple of days in the western usa - anyway the point is, he had looked into the cost and carnet/registration/hassle requirements for shipping and importing/licensing a bike into the usa and for his irish-registered bike, it turned out that the "home of the brave & land of the free" was going to be way more cost/hassle etc than travelling to north america via the "true north strong and free". Of course, once on this side of the atlantic, one would want to visit the usa (unless one wanted to go coast-to-coast on our frost-heave pot-holed roads and while I have done that numerous times, the 2,000 km in the middle from manitoba to toronto is really only for those who really like swamps and mosquitos).
In general, crossing the line is _usually_ relatively simple although the american border service folks seem to be a little less friendly every time I cross. Last year, crossing from sask into montana on my way to colorado, when the border guy asked me why I wanted to enter the usa, I said I wanted to support our good ally and neighbor by spending my hard-earned money as a tourist in their country. Which was true. So he gave me grief anyway, but in general, they do give us (i.e their northern neighbours) a bit of a bye - certainly we get off easier than their neighbours to the south... anyway, you should investigate because it may be that the hassle factor of shipping to Halifax and dealing with the canadian border services agency ("welcome gents, have a good time!") might be a little less onerous than the oh-so-serious chaps from the usa dept of homeland security. It kinda helps sometimes not to be a big and powerful country and to be mostly forgotten...
Just a suggestion - you guys might want to look into it.
Or here's a completely different thought. If you're riding tiggers, why one earth would one want to do that from la to nyc??? One could do that ride on a Harley or a Goldwing - and many do. tigger's are for exploring where most folks _don't_ go (at least mine is...)
Why not ship your bikes to edmonton and ride the alaska or cassia highway to the yukon, ride the canol road and the dempster "highway" over the mackenzie mountains into the nwt and on to the arctic ocean at tuktoyaktuk, then back to the yukon, into alaska and then back through beautiful british columbia and down the pacific coast to vancouver or even continue to portland, san fran or la... I would definitely join you for a trip like that!! that's what tiggers are all about!!! edmonton to vancouver via the yukon, arctic ocean and alaska would be about 6500 km and 2+ weeks would suffice and a rear tyre should last that long as long as it was new at the start - then continue down the pacific coast of washington state, oregon and calif.
how's that for an ideer?
As ideas go, brilliant!!!
Not looked seriously at any options yet; probably need to firm up those that definitely will go as opposed to those who'd like to go. then throw all the ideas into the pot and see what gels.
well I would love to go with a gang of tiggers over several thousand kms of bad dirt roads all the way to the beaufort sea. There's a famous song (well famous in canada anyway) called "northwest passage" the lyrics have great imagery - "Ah, for just one time I would take the Northwest Passage, to find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea; tracing one warm line through a land so wide and savage, and make a Northwest Passage to the sea".
Now THAT would be an adventure for tiggers. paved highways across kansas and nebraska? hmmm maybe that's why the 'murricans like croooozers so much....
And I'm wanting to plan a trip like that for summer 2016! (summer 2015 takes me 5000 km to the east coast - nova scotia and quebec). And going to inuvik would be great - but going to inuvik with an international gang of tiggers would e pretty special
Not to hijack your thread, but tiggers on asphalt through middle America? A coast to coast usa trip would be fun, but they have a lot of really good highways (compared to us that is - we engineers know that cold winters are hard on pavement...). So coast-to-coast usa is a nice motorbikle trip, but save the hassle of shipping your cats and just rent croooozers... the 'murrican way! Seems to me, a tigger trip should be on horrible roads - else we would all have cruisers or sportbikes, right?
perhaps I should start a different thread for those who want to go to "find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea" - incidently the umpteenth search for the remains of the Franklin expedition was finally successful - the Cdn Geographic Society finally found his ship this past summer - Franklin died in 1847 or 1848 with all his crew because he insisted on doing things the proper English royal-navy way. Whereas the successful explorers like Thompson, Hearne, Kelsey, Mackenzie, Fraser et al (all Scots of course) adopted the indian / innuit way of travelling in the bush and explored all of north America to all of its coasts many decades before the 'murrican lewis & clark - although the latter did have that 'murrican knack for self-promotion and are undeservedly more famous...
Edmonton to inuvik via the cassiar highway - whitehorse and the canol road and back through dawson and the top-of-the-word-highway into alaska and then south through BC to vancouver. I'm getting so keen I might go to the garage and start tigger up despite the 20 cm of snow on the ground!
Quote from: eurobykz on January 16, 2015, 08:33:57 AM
Why not ship your bikes to edmonton and ride the alaska or cassia highway to the yukon, ride the canol road and the dempster "highway" over the mackenzie mountains into the nwt and on to the arctic ocean at tuktoyaktuk, then back to the yukon, into alaska and then back through beautiful british columbia and down the pacific coast to vancouver or even continue to portland, san fran or la... I would definitely join you for a trip like that!! that's what tiggers are all about!!! edmonton to vancouver via the yukon, arctic ocean and alaska would be about 6500 km and 2+ weeks would suffice and a rear tyre should last that long as long as it was new at the start - then continue down the pacific coast of washington state, oregon and calif.
how's that for an ideer?
A good one I'd say. I did some of that two years ago but in a car. Was gratefull to be in car at times because it was heavy with Mozzies around the Bell 2 Lodge.
Quote from: eurobykz on January 17, 2015, 06:46:55 AM
Not to hijack your thread, but tiggers on asphalt through middle America? A coast to coast usa trip would be fun, but they have a lot of really good highways (compared to us that is - we engineers know that cold winters are hard on pavement...). So coast-to-coast usa is a nice motorbikle trip, but save the hassle of shipping your cats and just rent croooozers... the 'murrican way! Seems to me, a tigger trip should be on horrible roads - else we would all have cruisers or sportbikes, right?
You can pretty much go coast to coast in the USA on dirt roads. Ever heard of the "TAT"? = Trans America Trail. Just saying.
maybe there's some here that have done it, but is much of the TAT not pretty hardcore? i.e. narrow muddy steep trails and watercrossings with no bridges? - as opposed to bad dirt roads with bridges. But I could get with a plan like that - the USD might be up to C$1.40 by 2016 though... unless oil goes back up... does make it expensive to cross the line....
Quote from: eurobykz on January 24, 2015, 12:38:08 AM
maybe there's some here that have done it, but is much of the TAT not pretty hardcore? i.e. narrow muddy steep trails and watercrossings with no bridges? - as opposed to bad dirt roads with bridges. But I could get with a plan like that - the USD might be up to C$1.40 by 2016 though... unless oil goes back up... does make it expensive to cross the line....
I've read that people do it on Tigers and big Beemers. So it can't be that bad. But anyway, I think the bad bits are in Utah and the Rockies where we could easily go an easier route.
Just giving this one a bump guys! :wave
Is there still interest in this? :^_^ Not ever having done anything on this scale before I understand there's a lot of forward planning & preparation that would need to be done! The possibility of meeting up with our fellow forum members from across the 'pond' is indeed something not to be missed! :icon_cool:
I would definitely be up for this if given enough of a heads up to arrange annual leave & funding for it etc. :icon_redface:
It would be without a doubt one hell of a memorable journey! :wheel
Having attended every meet up since 2010, plus having had the good fortune to meet up with most of you guys, I couldn't think of any better company to share the experience with! :notworthy
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on February 17, 2015, 11:27:56 PM
The possibility of meeting up with our fellow forum members from across the 'pond' is indeed something not to be missed!
If there is interest from you guys in making the not inconsiderable decision to do this, rest assured that we on this side of the pond will make the effort to meet up with you.
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on February 17, 2015, 11:27:56 PM
Is there still interest in this? :^_^
Well I'm considering using this as the launch for a much longer tour. i.e. not coming back until I've covered south America as well. It's possible now that there is/are ferry options around the Darien Gap. http://darienferry.com/es/index.html http://www.sanblasferry.com/
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on February 17, 2015, 11:27:56 PM
Just giving this one a bump guys! :wave
Is there still interest in this? :^_^ Not ever having done anything on this scale before I understand there's a lot of forward planning & preparation that would need to be done! The possibility of meeting up with our fellow forum members from across the 'pond' is indeed something not to be missed! :icon_cool:
I would definitely be up for this if given enough of a heads up to arrange annual leave & funding for it etc. :icon_redface:
It would be without a doubt one hell of a memorable journey! :wheel
Having attended every meet up since 2010, plus having had the good fortune to meet up with most of you guys, I couldn't think of any better company to share the experience with! :notworthy
I'm on the last dash to finish my house off, one small bedroom and hall way to do. I want this done before spring get here so I can come out and boogie. Regards planning I have spoken to several companies that will ship bikes, the planning will not be such a problem as getting the money out of you tight arsed gits to pay for the container/shipping/shipper, that would have to be done in advance of the trip as a recent trip as some what depleted my funds.
we would have to have a way to pay for the shipping that everyone is happy with as the one shipper will put as many bikes in a tin can as possible. More bikes in the cheaper it would be for everyone.
Route planning no worries, going west keep the sun on your back am, pm put sunnies on and ride till your blind. West to east just reverse process.
Planning motto K.I.S.S.
If people only want one way shipping is everyone else happy with that can't see why, will that effect over all price ? don't know.
If there is a genuine interest I am happy to look into things, by genuine is there enough people prepared to part with their hard earned Wonga :eusa_clap
My main concern obviously is being left with a container and erm no bikes :ImaPoser :nono
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Quote from: Spud on March 07, 2015, 06:40:53 PM
Regards planning I have spoken to several companies that will ship bikes,
These http://www.motofreight.com/ are THE people to see. They used to be known as "James Cargo" and have an excellent reputation.
How's about we pick this up over a pint or two at the Wales meet in July guys? :occasion14
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on May 27, 2015, 10:20:46 AM
How's about we pick this up over a pint or two at the Wales meet in July guys? :occasion14
I'm unable to go to Wales but am still interested in what you guys come up with over a few beers. :occasion14
Quote from: blacktiger on May 27, 2015, 05:23:18 PM
I'm unable to go to Wales but am still interested in what you guys come up with over a few beers. :occasion14
:friday plans tend to go a bit :tin hat
likewise, can't spare the time to organise it, but interested in going :icon_lol:
I hope to be there on Saturday so we can have a talk about a states trip. Organising that is dependent on whether you want a fully organised trip ie every booking done pre event for you or whether you want a more free flowing trip. A container is not hard to sort
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Sounds like a plan Spud! :thumbsup
Whatever we come up with between us as a consensus of opinion in Rhayader we can share on here with the guys that can't attend and thrash through the details after the fact. :icon_biggrin:
See you in Wales on Saturday! :wave
my idea would be ....
sort container everyone pays up front.
you all sort your own flights out because people will be going from different places.
pick bikes up and ride simples, now if people want accommodation booked for every night then that gets more difficult.
I prefer ride till I'm hungry then eat, ride till I'm tired then sleep
will do my utmost to be there may only be there late afternoon life's interfered :icon_scratch:
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Sounds good Spud, keeps it nice and simple. Folks will have to source a pallet for the bike if my experience of New Zealand is correct, but most dealers chuck away the ones from new bikes anyway so it should be easy enough. The bike is strapped to the pallet, the pallet is screwed to the container floor.
Flights are down to the individual, accommodation on the road is - the movies would have you believe - straight forward, but maybe our friends over there can advise?
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on July 01, 2015, 06:18:40 PM
.....accommodation on the road is - the movies would have you believe - straight forward, but maybe our friends over there can advise?
Indeed. All boils down to how much you want to spend. There are still 'deals' to be had if you want to credit card camp, usually with the Mum and Dad operations . Just stay away from the expensive chains, unless you have the cash and want to collect multiple use points.
Spud, did you go any further with investigations into rental bikes?
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on July 01, 2015, 11:25:17 PM
Spud, did you go any further with investigations into rental bikes?
Rental bikes everywhere, would people be interested in "fly/ride" I can certainly look at my figures again :icon_scratch: , but a container with 6/7 bikes in was a lot cheaper
the rental guys usual want dates pinned down numbers going ect they seem reluctant to give "ball park" figures
cheers Spud :thumbsup
I'll chuck some figures together and get posted up, I've got man flu at the moment :^_^ so I'm not doing to much running around
cheers Spud :thumbsup
I have based rates on the following shipments:
1. You will delivery your 6 Triumph Tiger motorcycles into our depot near Heathrow (We can also arrange collection if you prefer) where we will pack, ship to Los Angeles and clear through customs ready for you to fly in and collect from our LA depot (About 20 mins taxi ride from LAX).
2. At the end of your trip you will then drop your 6 Triumph Tiger motorcycles into our New York depot (We can also arrange collection if you prefer) where we will pack, ship to UK and clear through customs ready for you to collect from our Felixstowe depot.
The price will £8097. This equates to £1350 per bike. If you had say 12 bikes to fill a 40' container I suspect the per bike price will fall to around £1195 per bike. (Please allow a transit time of approximately 5 weeks each way).
This includes packing, freight, fuel surcharges, documentation, handling and export/import clearances.
For temporary import into the U.S you will require prior approval from the EPA. This is a straightforward procedure and please see the instructions attached with this email.
We can also arrange insurance to cover loss or damage of your motorcycle during both the outbound and return transits. This is based on 2% of the bikes value + freight + 10%.
I hope this helps with your planning and please do let me know if you would like any further details at this stage.
This is an email of a shipping company here, just as a guide line
cheers Spud
Ok just spoke to another company who can ship to LA for roughly 3k for a 20 foot container which would hold about 6 to 7 bikes then back from the East coast again for about 3 k so that would be 6k shared between 7 of us to you Sir about £860 per bike, you would need a Carnet of the RAC and cover your cost of your own flights and ex's whilst in the States. Oh dear I'm getting excited :icon_lol:
If there was enough interested we could get a 40 foot container the price would go up but only by about a third. so say 14 bikes at about 8k return is to you Sir, about £571 shipping could be arranged from a central point ie Brum or Liverpool.
It may cost a little more say £200 ish for shipping a hazardous container ie bikes with batteries and some petrol in, but this would mean we get to LA meet the agent pick the bikes up and ride off. :thumbsup
cheers Spud
Well done Spud, plenty to chew over at the weekend. :thumbsup
Quote from: Spud on July 02, 2015, 08:53:46 AM
Oh dear I'm getting excited :icon_lol:
Me too!! :eusa_dance
See you on the weekend guys!! :thumbsup
don't get making a mess in your pants mate :icon_redface: lots to sort out need enough to fill a container
cheers Spud :thumbsup
will be speaking to a company called Lost Adventure about shipping and rental options and also James cargo
cheers Spud :thumbsup
need an Idea of what routes you want to do Ie coast to coast ?
How about bike rental Orlando to L A in march for £1200 ish, ( that's just the bike rental)..... or I might be able to get 6 Tigers together in L A for rental.
cheers Spud :thumbsup
http://www.thelostadventure.com/low-cost-coast-to-coast-motorcycle-hire-special
have a look at this lads
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Quote from: Spud on July 03, 2015, 09:45:41 AM
will be speaking to a company called Lost Adventure about shipping and rental options and also James cargo
James Cargo has morphed into Motofreight for shipping bikes. http://www.motofreight.com/ One of the directors from James Cargo set up the company alongside James Cargo just to look after the bike side of things.
Rental of a F800GS (Hell!!) at Eagle Riders will cost you $135 per
day BEFORE you add on all the insurances. More if you want a bigger bike. Also the chances of actually getting what you want is remote of you're all booking at the same place. I'd want my own Tiger over there because it's all set up right for me.
It's normally acknowledged that it's cheaper to ship your own if you're going for more than three weeks.
any consensus over the weekend as to what people want to do
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Hi Spud, :wave those that showed an interest over the weekend would prefer shipping their tigers across the pond rather than ride Harleys, etc. With LA as a starting point. (John Stenhouse already has a steamer stored over there somewhere)
Must admit, take up from the guys that attended was quite low, from memory only John Stenhouse, Nickcalne, Sintiger & myself showing an interest. (Please correct me if I'm wrong here guys as I didn't manage to get to speak to everyone who attended.)
If we can firm up on who is a definate for this then tentative plans could be made? Personally, shipping ready to roll at the other end would be my preference with dates to suit the majority. Not too fussed about a coast to coast (although that does sound good!) But would be happy to take in some of magnificent roads over there that perhaps our forum buddy's could suggest (or maybe even ride along with us?)
What about the rest of you guys? :^_^
Yep, I'm in but as Mat Tiger says not shipping as I have one there and will use that. Would need to be a west coast start for me as my bike is in Vancouver.
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on July 06, 2015, 10:36:44 AM
Must admit, take up from the guys that attended was quite low, from memory only John Stenhouse, Nickcalne, Sintiger & myself showing an interest. (Please correct me if I'm wrong here guys as I didn't manage to get to speak to everyone who attended.)
And me.
As I plan to be retired by then, dates shouldn't be too much of a problem. Although part of retirement
could be moving to Spain, so a house purchase could put a spanner in the works.
If I do go I might well extend my visit beyond what you lot are considering.
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on July 06, 2015, 10:36:44 AM
Hi Spud, :wave those that showed an interest over the weekend would prefer shipping their tigers across the pond rather than ride Harleys, etc. With LA as a starting point. (John Stenhouse already has a steamer stored over there somewhere)
Must admit, take up from the guys that attended was quite low, from memory only John Stenhouse, Nickcalne, Sintiger & myself showing an interest. (Please correct me if I'm wrong here guys as I didn't manage to get to speak to everyone who attended.)
If we can firm up on who is a definate for this then tentative plans could be made? Personally, shipping ready to roll at the other end would be my preference with dates to suit the majority. Not too fussed about a coast to coast (although that does sound good!) But would be happy to take in some of magnificent roads over there that perhaps our forum buddy's could suggest (or maybe even ride along with us?)
What about the rest of you guys? :^_^
Ok I will get some prices to and from LA
cheers Spud
Would it not be cheaper to ship to east coast vs west from UK ?
and the best motorcycle roads are east of the mississippi river .............................
Quote from: Mustang on July 06, 2015, 06:39:30 PM
and the best motorcycle roads are east of the mississippi river .............................
Erm, unless you are in the Pacific north west of the US, or British Columbia, of course.... :icon_wink: :icon_wink:
Quote from: nickjtc on July 06, 2015, 07:37:15 PM
Erm, unless you are in the Pacific north west of the US, or British Columbia, of course.... :icon_wink: :icon_wink:
Been there done that ..............
I'll correct my statement
If you don't have time to hit the entire country ( it's a
big one )
The
MAJORITY of the
absolute best Riding motorcycle roads are in
Arkansas and the rest are
EAST of the Mississippi River
Quote from: Mustang on July 06, 2015, 06:39:30 PM
Would it not be cheaper to ship to east coast vs west from UK ?
and the best motorcycle roads are east of the mississippi river .............................
yes it is cheaper to ship to the East coast. What sort of dates are people looking at ?
cheers Spud :thumbsup
right just spoken to a very nice guy called Roddy at Motofreight, he has stated the following
Air freight out bound to make sure the bikes are there.....
New York £950 per bike one way
Halifax £1150 per bike which he recommended as it easy to get through customs.
L.A. £1350 per bike one way
Anchorage £1450
shipping back from LA by sea approx 40 days £875
so your looking in the region of 2 to 2.5k for shipping
EPA forms would need doing and customs clearance would have to be done by ourselves, he did not recommend New York as it is very busy and it would take time to clear everything (unless you want an adventure)
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Quote from: nickjtc on July 06, 2015, 07:37:15 PM
Erm, unless you are in the Pacific north west of the US, or British Columbia, of course.... :icon_wink: :icon_wink:
Or all of the Rockies................ :augie
got to speak to someone else next week when he is back from the states with a container full of bikes might be an opportunity to ship with him using his containers
cheers Spud :thumbsup
I don't know about to the US, but you can fly your bikes with Air Canada - with you on the same flight. Prices are pretty reasonable I think. Check out the link below. Based on this, it looks like London-Montreal would be only $C 700. which is about 400 UKP I think. It doesn't show a price to Europe from Calgary or Vancouver, but I expect you could find out...
here's the link.
http://canadamotoguide.com/2015/03/03/air-canadas-new-motorcycle-cargo-options/
Quote from: Spud on July 09, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
got to speak to someone else next week when he is back from the states with a container full of bikes might be an opportunity to ship with him using his containers
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Great stuff Spud :thumbsup
Let us know how you get on! :icon_biggrin:
Quote from: eurobykz on July 10, 2015, 10:32:56 PM
I don't know about to the US, but you can fly your bikes with Air Canada - with you on the same flight. Prices are pretty reasonable I think. Check out the link below. Based on this, it looks like London-Montreal would be only $C 700. which is about 400 UKP I think. It doesn't show a price to Europe from Calgary or Vancouver, but I expect you could find out...
here's the link.
http://canadamotoguide.com/2015/03/03/air-canadas-new-motorcycle-cargo-options/
Liking the sound of this eurobykz, :thumbsup
At this rate we'll be spoiled for choice! :icon_cool:
I think that since AC and WestJet copied the yank airlines and started charging for checked luggage, the cargo holds are empty so they're looking for ways to fill them...
According to this, C$700 to Montreal and then C$650 from Vancouver or Calgary back to Montreal and then $700 back to London. that's $2050 Cdn which is only 1040 UKP at today's rate! I think that's quite a bit cheaper than your other options?
Makes me want to go ride in Britain!! On the other hand, for me to put my tigger on a plane in cowtown and go to UK would be $2700 return. Exchange rate's a bitch...
Be warned, Air Canada will probably find a bazillion extra fees and surcharges to drive the price up...
Of course you could fly to and from Toronto, but Montreal is a way better city, and there are fabulous paved and unpaved roads through the laurentian mountains north and east of montreal
And as an added bonus, you would get to miss out on the wonderful "welcome" from our neighbours' inimitable "dep't of homeland scrutiny" Our border security guys are too busy watching the hockey playoffs and just wave at the jihadi's as they walk past carrying bombs and AK47's. The worst they might do is hassle the tourist who brought back an extra bottle of duty-free rum from their all-inclusive beach trip to cuba... The thing to avoid is try to bring in meat (ask me how I got my haggis past them coming back from Edinburgh last year).
Quote from: eurobykz on July 14, 2015, 08:18:27 AM
According to this, C$700 to Montreal and then C$650 from Vancouver or Calgary back to Montreal and then $700 back to London. that's $2050 Cdn which is only 1040 UKP at today's rate! I think that's quite a bit cheaper than your other options?
We don't neded the Fly back option do we? We're supposed to be riding around the USA and Canada so it'll be a round trip won't it? Start and finish in Montreal. No?
Quote from: eurobykz on July 14, 2015, 08:18:27 AM
The thing to avoid is try to bring in meat (ask me how I got my haggis past them coming back from Edinburgh last year).
I'm not sure I want to know how you managed that, might put me off my breakfast :nono Heathens, they'll be trying to sell us Jocks smoked salmon next.
Some good ideas and tips there, thanks :thumbsup
Quote from: blacktiger on July 14, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
We don't neded the Fly back option do we? We're supposed to be riding around the USA and Canada so it'll be a round trip won't it? Start and finish in Montreal. No?
Depends on how long you have. A few years ago, I lived in the UK for a bit during a sabbatical leave from the university. We had a flat in Edinburgh and the sole wheels for my wife & I was a triumph - we chose the sprint GT not a tigger since it had the biggest luggage. My point is - the UK - hell, even Europe, is SMALL. I got up early one morning in Edinburgh and rode my bike >300 km to Yorkshire to meet my colleagues - they were quite surprised that I would have done that... When I was a kid, we had to drive >100km just to go to a bigger town that had a movie theatre...
Imagine you live in Milton Keynes and decided to do a huge loop around Europe and visit Amsterdam, Berlin, Warsaw, Budapest, Florence, Madrid, Paris, and back to Milton Keynes (notice I left out Athens). According to Google Maps, you would have ridden something over 7,000 km. Your rear tire (tyre) is a bit bald, but still rideable...
Now imagine I leave Saskatoon for Montreal, Halifax, Atlanta, Austin, El-Paso, Phoenix, LA, Vancouver and back to Saskatoon. I would have ridden well over 15,000 km. And still would have missed half of the continent. If I add in Guadalajara and the lake-Chapala district of Jalisco, ferry to Baja and up to California that way and then add in Whitehorse, the Yukon and a taste of Alaska via the top-of-the-world highway, I would have put about 22,000 km on the bike and would definitely need a couple of new rear tire/tyres...
Calgary to Montreal is over a week of committed straight-up pavement riding for most sane people, with little sight-seeing. I've done it as fast as I possibly could and it was 5 days and really no fun. I've heard about people who did it quicker, but they were on goldwings or the like and just stuck to the trans-canada and went as fast as possible. from Vancouver add another day or 2.
A trip that started in Montreal - might loop east and south a bit and then cross the continent ending in Vancouver or Calgary. Such a trip could even loop north to the Yukon and Alaska and end in Calgary...
Having ridden much of the continent (my guzzi breva-V11 is currently in Halifax where it's about as close to Britain as it is to Saskatoon) my suggestion would be a really big loop - start in montreal and let your preferences, schedule and dirt/asphalt preferences guide you... perhaps east through the laurentians to the maritimes, across the border into new-england (change the km into miles on your speedometer and odometer and change the spelling on your computer to lite nite check color meter etc) - then wander southwest through the Appalachians and into the ozarks and into texas (east texas didn't inspire me during two m/c trips there but west texas was really pretty cool - Big Bend National Park in west texas is a great place for great dirt roads through amazing desert scenery - perfect for tiggers (check out Motorcycle Mojo Magazine - may 2014, "Tigger's Excellent Adventure").
Then from west-texas one has so many choices - one might head north through new-mexico & Utah and into Yellowstone NP, the Black hills (avoid when the Harley-dudes are there in their thousands - all those rugged individualists wearing identical and rather juvenile pirate costumes) - and then from the black hills head north into the US "Glacier" National Park (it doesn't have any glaciers unlike Glacier Nat Park in BC. US Glacier abuts Waterton National Park and there's a great mostly dirt road that goes north along the east flank of the rockies from just north of the border up past Banff and Jasper and then connects to the Alaska Highway (paved) or the "highway" up to the Mackenzie River....
Or alternatively leave texas and head southwest into Mexico - there are 3 countries in North America after all...
or go west into Arizona, California and then north along the coast...
And for those who want thousands of km of bad gravel road, along with trillions of blackflies (our answer to the Scottish midges but way worse) - there's always the Trans-Labrador. And Newfoundland...
So... it would really depend on where you wanted to go, how long you had, and what's the desired mix of pavement (asphalt, tarmac) to gravel roads/dirt roads/prairie trails/goat paths etc....
Sorry to go on so long - really just trying to help... Just thinking about it, I'm getting keen to join up for at least a bit
Ian
What euro says, +1. Unless you guys have a LOT of time (and $$) it will be impossible for you to see much over here. My suggestion would be to choose a specific area and focus on it alone. From a cost viewpoint that would mean the east side of the continent, and as euro and Mustang have both commented there is a lot of excellent riding to be done.I've lived here in BC for 28 years and have barely touched all of the riding that is available. Admittedly it is four times the size of England, but..................
As a side comment. I bought a R1100RS in Montreal, flew over (with the wife) to pick it up and rode it back to BC. Foolishly I did not allow enough time, so we left Montreal on the Monday pm and were back in Kamloops by Saturday at noon. Both knackered (one day of over a thousand kms) and a very strained marital relationship!!
Do not try to see too much!!
Go Ozarks
You won't scratch the surface no matter where you go
For your money you could make multiple meet ups closer to home, maybe even buy another bike. Don't let that stop ya thou.
Pick a place and time the weather is nice.
Mexico is a country?
Practice driving on the right side of the road before ya get here
Quote from: motoOzarks on July 15, 2015, 06:12:43 PM
Go Ozarks
...Mexico is a country?
Yeah, Mexico is one of the 2 North-American countries that suffer from horrible and rampant gun violence... :icon_scratch: But unless one is really really cautious, that's no reason to skip both Mexico & USA and stick to the safe part where there's great scenery and wilderness, more dirt roads than we can count, plus a familiar old picture of the queen on the currency... :icon_salut:
Actually Guadalajara and Jalisco in general is pretty safe, and you can take ferry to Los Cabos and ride up through Baja!!! Easily as safe as Chicago/LA/Atlanta and certainly safer, friendlier and more picturesque than Detroit or some others one wouldn't want to name given recent events...
Hmmm isn't the Ozarks where the Dukes of Hazzard used to do their thing?? I've read about the Ozarks as a paved-road destination for the croozer-dudes... Is there also a lot of really good dirt?? Arkansas is one of only about a half-dozen American states I haven't got to yet...
I wouldn't worry about riding a m/c on the rhs / lhs. Much harder with a manual transmission car. Shifting with left hand took some practice...
For amazing dirt roads, interesting paved roads, good scenery and reasonable summer temperatures (like not >36 every day) I would recommend the general area extending north from and including Colorado. Utah, Montana, Wyo and Idaho, eastern BC, Alta and western Sask. And extend it up to the Yukon and Alaska time (and rear tyre wear) permitting. Farther south there's great riding, but it will be 36 or 38 or 40 every day...
If the west is just too far, Montreal does put you in touch with amazing rides in the laurentians - and heading east, Gaspésie and the Maritimes are full of good dirt and paved roads, and then you funnel down into new England, the appalachians and all the famous paved twisties in the blue ridge parkway and tail-of-the-dragon and all that. Been there, done that. On a tiger with TKC's!! And I would never go that far again to ride what really are fairly ho-hum roads in comparison to what exists across the pond.
But.... I would offer this thought to those that boost those eastern roads. Good as they are (and they are), those "famous" twisty roads are -perhaps- only remarkable in contrast with the rest of north America where the highway engineers straightened everything out in the name of speed and safety! (Thus the cruisers everywhere, it doesn't matter if your bike can't turn as the road's straight!!). Our british friends (aspecially the Scots) will be used to roads like Duke's pass near stirling and hardknott pass in Cumbria. Those both are at least as twisty as "the Dragon", much longer, and in the case of the Hardknott - many times steeper and more difficult. And when our british friends go to visit france, Italy, Bavaria, Austria, spain, they find ubiquitous roads that are far more challenging than even those rare and fmous "destination highways" in north America.
So in the east, there is interesting dirt riding to be found, but it won't be as epic as the west. The problem is that if you want to start in the east and go to the west, you either have to go through 2000 km less interesting terrain through Ontario, Manitoba and eastern Sask, or south of the line it's just as dull for 1200 miles in Nebraska, kansas, Indiana, misery (sp?) etc Of course there are hidden gems in all of those places, but it really boils down to time and preferences...
Knowing the UK fairly well, if I were going to map out a trip for Brits on Tiggers, I would look for a combo of paved and dirt through country that would be completely different than anything they would find closer to home. I would start in Calgary, head south across the border, through the rockies, deserts etc of Wyo, Colo, Utah and Idaho, on to the black hills etc and then loop back across the border, north through Banff and jasper and on into the boreal forest and past, to the tundra of the northern Yukon, into Alaska, take a ferry and back down the BC coast to vancouver. Yes, you'd miss the Ozarks. And California. And the US south, la Belle province du Quebec and the Maritimes. Unless you have 2 years, you can't see it all.
Maybe I should quit my job and become a travel agent?
http://youtu.be/14ZHn_76QM0
Thanks for your input guys. I think we all appreciate that the USA and Canada are huge and that it'll be impossible to see it all in one trip. That's why I've been over five times so far and am doing the Appalachians this September. Bit by bit.................
So, what us UKers need to do is set out what we want from this trip.
One of the original suggestions is to ride from coast to coast. That can be done in a week if you don't want to see anything on the way AND ride the Interstate Highways. Bugger that!
One of the first things to get fixed is how long can people take away from normal life. Second is when this is going to happen. THEN we can plan some more.
On another note...........surely Air Canada can fly us into Vancouver for not much more than Montreal? Then we can attempt Alaska. Or head south through the Rockies. Just thnking out loud. :^_^
Quote from: blacktiger on July 17, 2015, 12:00:29 PM
One of the first things to get fixed is how long can people take away from normal life. Second is when this is going to happen. THEN we can plan some more.
:iagree
Spud's doing great work with the shipping options so we know roughly :icon_scratch: it's not going to be cheap. Some great input from the local's on options but as Confucius say (actually it was Lao Tzu) 千里之行，始於足下 (http://www.yourlifeyourway.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/A-journey-of-a-thousand-miles-begins-with-a-singl-step.jpg)
Quote from: blacktiger on July 17, 2015, 12:00:29 PM
Then we can attempt Alaska. Or head south through the Rockies. Just thnking out loud. :^_^
I would not go north. It's a long way to get there and the roads from northern BC on are BORING! also weather may be less predictable. My 22 cents worth. (2 cents + inflation.)
Hi gents :wave Sin & I got to talking at the Bike show on Sunday & wondered if it would be worth a meet-up one of the weekends for those definitely interested to discuss possible routes, costs, timings etc? :^_^
Otherwise, with all good intentions time will be our enemy and we'll soon be in 2016 with nothing planned or we may simply agree that it's a no-goer and just have a beer or two & a catch up? :icon_wink:
Just putting it out there. :icon_smile: Suggestions on a postcard please... :thumbsup
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on July 20, 2015, 05:52:23 PM
Hi gents :wave Sin & I got to talking at the Bike show on Sunday & wondered if it would be worth a meet-up one of the weekends for those definitely interested to discuss possible routes, costs, timings etc? :^_^
Otherwise, with all good intentions time will be our enemy and we'll soon be in 2016 with nothing planned or we may simply agree that it's a no-goer and just have a beer or two & a catch up? :icon_wink:
Just putting it out there. :icon_smile: Suggestions on a postcard please... :thumbsup
I don't mind meeting somewhere BUT I don't have any weekends available this side of the end of October. The only thing I can suggest is meeting at the NEC show which this year runs from Nov 28th to Dec 6th. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2015/january/motorcycle-live-2015-dates-change/
I can get there on either Saturday 28th or Sunday 29th. Obviously that's a long way from SinTiger.
Quote from: blacktiger on July 20, 2015, 06:12:34 PM
Obviously that's a long way from SinTiger.
It's not the distance that bothers me mate, done the NEC several times and have been known to go half way accross the country just for a Barbie, it's more waiting until Nov, that'd lose too much time I think.
Knowing us lot, to get it done we probably need a firm plan by the NEC show otherwise it won't happen. So maybe meet and agree a plan before and then meet at the NEC to commit?
:^_^
As I mentioned over in a ride report, I live just south of the Adirondacks near Lake George NY, the location for the huge Americade Rally every June.
Our roads and scenery are great, and this is a region which relies on tourism, so accomodations are plentiful, as is camping.
Being recently retired, I have the time and knowledge to put together a great trip. No slab riding, and lots of mountains lakes and twisties. Depending on your time constraints, this could also include some ocean in Maine, or some of the great roads in PA and WVa.
I live 3 hours from either NYC or Boston, and can easily provide transport for the entire group from either airport.
My garage has plenty of tools (myself included :icon_wink:) and I even have a perfect 99 Legend as a spare if someone needed it.
I would suggest early June or September as the best riding times for the Northeast.
I am happy to organize everything on my end for you guys, and I would suggest that 6 or so is a great and manageable number.
What ssevy said +1, if you decided to come to the Pacific Northwest instead. Unfortunately I do not have another Triumph to lend. :icon_wink:
Well Gentlemen, extremely generous offers there from both Ssevy & Nickjtc (thanks guys! :thumbsup) and food for thought as far as where & when to travel from all the guys on that side of the pond. :notworthy
So, I guess it's down to us now. A meet up (even if it's not until the NEC show in Nov) is needed for a jaunt of this scale (& cost :augie) Arguments for and against Westcoast, Eastcoast or a trip across the width of the USA can be (& should be) discussed here while we wait for all interested parties to be available for a sit down discussion. Shipping companies etc. again can be sourced & approximate costs for various start / finish locations collated. (& Spud has done a great job thus far :bowdown)
This will give us a good idea of when, where & how we might do this and will give us more than a few options to choose from when we eventually get together. :icon_cool:
Until then.... let the games begin! :icon_wink: Quite fancy the Westcoast myself! :wheel
Were I in your shoes, I would feel that the most precious resource on a trip like this is time itself. For that reason, I would encourage you to pick one coast or the other, and forget trying to ride coast to coast. There is simply too vast a section in between coasts where the terrain is flatter than piss on a platter, and even resorting to interstates (purgatory on wheels) you would simply eat up too much of your allotted time.
The second big consideration is local and regional knowledge. You want to hit all of the best roads and scenery, and you really need a host who can not only plan an awesome trip, but who can also ride with you to offer whatever help is needed. I'm happy to provide this for you on the East Coast, and it sounds like Nick can cover the West Coast, so I would do some research and decide which coast is more appealing, and then pick some dates.
Lesser considerations you might want to include are weather and costs for a given region. I can't speak to the West Coast, but rain is always a possibility here.
A Tiger Triple group trip is a BIG DEAL. I hope that you blokes can work something out so that you can experience the trip (and therefore the ride) [hopefully] of a lifetime. But if the reality of such a big deal is really not feasible, please understand that there are fellows over here who would be happy to look after, and facilitate, you on a one-to-one basis.
Quote from: ssevy on July 26, 2015, 10:58:57 PM
Lesser considerations you might want to include are weather and costs for a given region. I can't speak to the West Coast, but rain is always a possibility here.
July, August and September here (especially the first two) are HOT and dry. Did I mention HOT!!
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on July 26, 2015, 10:28:51 PM
Well Gentlemen, extremely generous offers there from both Ssevy & Nickjtc (thanks guys! :thumbsup) and food for thought as far as where & when to travel from all the guys on that side of the pond. :notworthy
So, I guess it's down to us now. A meet up (even if it's not until the NEC show in Nov) is needed for a jaunt of this scale (& cost :augie) Arguments for and against Westcoast, Eastcoast or a trip across the width of the USA can be (& should be) discussed here while we wait for all interested parties to be available for a sit down discussion. Shipping companies etc. again can be sourced & approximate costs for various start / finish locations collated. (& Spud has done a great job thus far :bowdown)
This will give us a good idea of when, where & how we might do this and will give us more than a few options to choose from when we eventually get together. :icon_cool:
Until then.... let the games begin! :icon_wink: Quite fancy the Westcoast myself! :wheel
Firstly, thanks again to ssevy and Nickjtc for keeping abreast of this thread. Any help you can give will be appreciated.
I will say that I do have experience of the west coast having ridden from LA to the top of Washinton State and back in 2007. http://s396.photobucket.com/user/black955tiger/library/USA%202007%20SANTA%20BARBARA?sort=3&page=1
I've also driven around that side of the country a couple of times.
http://s396.photobucket.com/user/black955tiger/library/USA%202001?sort=3&page=1
And around the Rockies west of Denver in 2008...
http://s396.photobucket.com/user/black955tiger/library/USA%202008%20TRAIL%20RIDE?sort=2&page=1
Then west Canada in 2012....
http://s396.photobucket.com/user/black955tiger/library/CANADA%202012?sort=2&page=1
So I'm not a newby to the USA and Canada. And all these trips I've planned myself. So personally I don't really want a guided tour. To me that's not an adventure. Having said that some local guidance and knowledge always helps.
Now, going by the number of Brits contributing to this thread, it looks like it's only going to be 3, maybe 4 of us. And, as I've said before, I'll be retired by then so am easy on when and how long. So I'll leave that to the rest of you.
Discuss...................................... :thumbsup
Quote from: blacktiger on July 27, 2015, 10:02:22 AMSo personally I don't really want a guided tour.
Still being a working stiff I'm not sure I would be able to do all of the riding, apart from pointing you in the right direction! You're all grown ups, though and I'm sure that you can read a map. :icon_wink: Although I do have the odd few favourite roads........... :augie
Quote from: nickjtc on July 27, 2015, 04:06:12 PM
Although I do have the odd few favourite roads
That's the sort of info we'd want to know.
Spoke to a guy called Chris from "Unchained tours" he is happy to fill his containers with "Tigers" he would be looking at around the 2k mark for a return trip that is shipping and all paper work basically you just fly in and pick your bike up you do not need to be doing a tour of his.
He suggested Santa Rosa
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Quote from: Spud on July 28, 2015, 10:21:57 AM
Spoke to a guy called Chris from "Unchained tours" he is happy to fill his containers with "Tigers" he would be looking at around the 2k mark for a return trip that is shipping and all paper work basically you just fly in and pick your bike up you do not need to be doing a tour of his.
He suggested Santa Rosa
cheers Spud :thumbsup
I like the Canadian Airways price better.
What's so special in Santa Rosa? Just a city north of San Fran. I've been through that area and apart from lots of tall trees it's nothing special.
easy run for the west coast waiting for an email with more info on it
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Quote from: Spud on July 28, 2015, 12:17:19 PM
easy run for the west coast waiting for an email with more info on it
cheers Spud :thumbsup
If you want the west coast just stay on the west coast. :^_^ It's not short of accomodation. https://www.lonelyplanet.com/usa/california/coastal-highway-1/hotels Although having said that it'd be wise to stay away from the hot spots at weekends because the Yanks will be filling them up.
However, IMO the best riding over that way is inland running through the lumpy bits. Like hwy96:- https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/40.9607315,-123.6427529/Randolf+Collier+Safety+Roadside+Rest+Area,+CA-96,+Hornbrook,+CA+96044/@41.3752788,-123.2499916,9z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x54ce515f693749e7:0x6c99fa19f6858e89!2m2!1d-122.5713183!2d41.8513025?hl=en
Which I rode in 2007. Absolutely great fun and so little traffic.
(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/black955tiger/USA%202007%20SANTA%20BARBARA/Dsc00024KALMATHRIVER.jpg) (http://s396.photobucket.com/user/black955tiger/media/USA%202007%20SANTA%20BARBARA/Dsc00024KALMATHRIVER.jpg.html)
Also Hwy25 south of San Fran and dirt to be ridden https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/36.4065147,-120.9924753/36.5912857,-120.8301948/@36.563853,-120.8600639,12z/data=!4m2!4m1!5i2?hl=en
I rode that in 2007 as well.
(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/black955tiger/USA%202007%20SANTA%20BARBARA/Dsc00066IDREAROAD.jpg) (http://s396.photobucket.com/user/black955tiger/media/USA%202007%20SANTA%20BARBARA/Dsc00066IDREAROAD.jpg.html)
Hi John
Further to our telephone conversation of yesterday, please find some details of shipping to the USA as requested:
Next year, we will be shipping bikes into our normal destination of Santa Rosa California which is a perfect place to start and finish every trip. We will be running a 3 week trip from here and I have attached an itinerary in case you are interested in joining us on this trip.
However, if you just want me to ship your bikes and sort your own route, that's fine and I can help you with routing etc.
I have programmed the bikes to be unloaded in Santa Rosa on Thursday 12th August and will be reloaded on Tuesday 7th September 2016.
We load the bikes in Pershore, Worcester and they are loaded on a secure 40ft container. Each bike is fixed in individual wheel chocks which are bolted to the floor. You can carry all your kit in the container with the bike but we limit this to your panniers and one large bag. Anything you don't need to carry on your trip i.e your big bag can be left at Santa Rosa.
The bikes are unloaded at Santa Rosa BMW/Triumph and you simply fly in and your bike will be waiting for you. For the return, you leave the bike there and we load it and send it home. There are excellent bus connections from San Francisco International Airport. We have an excellent relationship with this dealer and he is on hand if we have any issues.
I personally load and unload the bikes so am in full control from start to finish.
The cost per bike is £1950.00 which includes loading/unloading and all the customs paperwork. There will be a voluntary extra charge for full marine insurance which I strongly recommend you take out. The cost varies depending on the value of bike but it's normally around £80.00 per bike.
There will be an extra charge of £250.00 per person if you wanted to join us on our trip. On these trips, I organise the route, motels, lead the trip etc and you pay for everything as you go so you can just sit back and enjoy the route knowing you have a brilliant route ahead of you and your accommodation is booked at the end of the day. I don't expect everyone to follow me on these trips and encourage people to ride their own day if they want to. It always makes for good stories at the end of the day.
I trust this information is of interest and please let me know if you need any more details at this time.
Best Regards
Chris Biltcliffe
www.unchainedtours.com
Cheers Spud :thumbsup
Moab
and
Canyons
2016
Day
Date
Route
Finish
Mileage
Saturday
14th
August
Collect
Bikes
and
local
ride.
Santa
Rosa
Sunday
15th
August
PCH
Hwy
1
Giant
Redwoods
Eureka
250
Monday
16th
August
Via
Mad
River
Crater
Lake
320
Tuesday
17th
August
Crater
Lake
Reno
300
Wednesday
18th
August
Lost
Highway
50
Ely
320
Thursday
19th
August
Bonneville
Salt
Flats
Salt
Lake
City
250
Friday
20th
August
Hwy
6
Moab
220
Saturday
21st
August
Exploring
Moab
Moab
Sunday
22nd
August
Exploring
Moab
Moab
Monday
23rd
August
l41
through
Telluride
Silverton
173
Tuesday
24th
August
Million
Dollar
Hwy
Monument
Valley
Mexican
Hat
254
Wednesday
25th
August
Moki
Dugway
To
Bryce
Bryce
300
Thursday
26th
August
Northern
Rim
Grand
Canyon
Kanab
220
Friday
27th
August
Zion
National
Park
Hurricane
70
Saturday
28th
August
Hoover
dam
Lake
Mead
Boulder
City
180
Sunday
29th
August
Death
Valley
Lone
Pine
240
Monday
30th
August
Bodie
Lee
Vining
200
Tuesday
31st
August
Yosemite
Oakhurst
100
Wednesday
1st
September
Sequoia
and
Kings
Canyon
3
Rivers
150
Thursday
2nd
September
Hwy
128
and
Carmel
Byway
Monterey
240
Friday
3rd
September
Skyline
and
Golden
gate
Santa
Rosa
180
Saturday
4th
September
Drop
bike
and
fly
home
3967
www.unchainedtours.com
Good work, Spud. Apart from the long scroll down!
I have ridden most of those roads and concur that the trip would be one to remember. You've hit all the high spots (and low, in Death Valley :qgaraduate). Personally I would not spend any more time in Yosemite than is necessary because of the four wheel tourists, but otherwise A+++ :icon_salut:
I would certainly make the effort to ride down and join in at least for part of the loop.
Quote from: Spud on July 29, 2015, 02:04:53 PM
Moab
and
Canyons
2016
www.unchainedtours.com
Well if I read that right :icon_scratch: :^_^ :bug_eye I've already done all that. It's a good tour though and covers a lot of what you need to be seeing. I will add that when they say "Byway" they don't mean a green lane like over here. :icon_rolleyes:
Quote from: blacktiger on July 20, 2015, 06:12:34 PM
I don't mind meeting somewhere BUT I don't have any weekends available this side of the end of October. The only thing I can suggest is meeting at the NEC show which this year runs from Nov 28th to Dec 6th. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2015/january/motorcycle-live-2015-dates-change/
I can get there on either Saturday 28th or Sunday 29th. Obviously that's a long way from SinTiger.
Hi Guys :wave
Any Takers for a meet here to discuss a USA trip? :wheel
If so, what day? :^_^
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on August 03, 2015, 06:03:06 PM
Hi Guys :wave
Any Takers for a meet here to discuss a USA trip? :wheel
If so, what day? :^_^
As I wrote before Sat 28th or Sun 29th for me.
No problems with either of those dates here BT. :thumbsup
Have you got your PC on Spud? :wave Did your contacts give you any ideas about what sort of notice they would need to organize shipping? :icon_scratch:
I mean do they send & receive containers weekly / monthly?
I'm just thinking possible 'cut off' dates for when we meet up. Talking of dates, had we narrowed any prospective trip down to a possible month as yet or is it still TBA? :icon_confused: Is it cheaper to ship at certain times?
I bumped into Roddy from Motofrieght ( www.motofrieght.com ) when i was down Jack Lilley's the other week & he said that he'd spoken to one our Tigertriple guys about a USA trip (guessing it was you Spud?) & he suggested a group meeting where either he or one of his shipping organizers could attend & answer any questions we might have.
Would you guys be up for that if we get an idea of when we might want to go? Perhaps we could arrange it to co-inside whith the bike show? (I'm guessing they'll be exhibiting?) :^_^
If I'm in the UK and free I will make so.
Since starting this the management has started making plans to visit our friends in Australia next year. I can't fund both so this will have to be held over fro another time. :icon_cry:
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on August 04, 2015, 12:27:18 AM
Since starting this the management has started making plans to visit our friends in Australia next year. I can't fund both so this will have to be held over fro another time. :icon_cry:
Happy that you're planning a trip to Oz Bixxer! :icon_cool: (don't forget the ride report!)
Gutted that you won't be able to make a USA trip with yer old mukkas. :icon_cry:
Just checking, how many are we now guys? Do we still have enough interested to make a trip viable? :^_^
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on August 04, 2015, 12:27:18 AM
Since starting this the management has started making plans to visit our friends in Australia next year. I can't fund both so this will have to be held over fro another time. :icon_cry:
And there we were under the impression that you'd already got permission.
:icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes:
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on August 04, 2015, 01:32:59 AM
Just checking, how many are we now guys? Do we still have enough interested to make a trip viable? :^_^
Well, going by what's been posted so far the cost doesn't seem to alter with the numbers. And I'd prefer a select few rather than a dozen. Fewer people to please that way. :augie
Good point H. Permission wasn't the issue, but our friends in Oz are a lot older than us so she wants to go while they still draw breath. Won't be a ride report as we'll be spending most of our time aboard this old lady:
It'll be more like excerpts from the 'Captain's log' then eh Bixxer? :icon_salut: :thumbsup
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on August 04, 2015, 03:33:50 PM
It'll be more like excerpts from the 'Captain's log' then eh Bixxer? :icon_salut: :thumbsup
No one wants to see a Captains log. :Topes
Quote from: blacktiger on August 04, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
No one wants to see a Captains log. :Topes
Or a Captains log: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP1lN50OGlE
It was indeed myself that spoke to Roddy, there needs to be 6 bikes to fill a container that's a 20 footer. But I have just been not so gently reminded that it's the Mrs 50th next year and she took me to Japan for mine. Apparently I had completely forgotten which I actually had not just going to both trips :augie
So I am happy to postpone the trip for a year or if people want to go still I am more than happy to help out in the organisation of things
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Quote from: Spud on August 06, 2015, 08:51:43 AM
It was indeed myself that spoke to Roddy, there needs to be 6 bikes to fill a container that's a 20 footer. But I have just been not so gently reminded that it's the Mrs 50th next year and she took me to Japan for mine. Apparently I had completely forgotten which I actually had not just going to both trips :augie
So I am happy to postpone the trip for a year or if people want to go still I am more than happy to help out in the organisation of things
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Certainly for me 2017 could be better as my first year of retirement (2016)could be a little too busy trying to fit everything in. BUT having said that I'm still willing to go in 2016 if there's enough interest.
Northumberland or Ireland then? :augie
Quote from: threepot on August 06, 2015, 05:03:58 PM
Northumberland or Ireland then? :augie
Ha ha ha! Yeah.
In the original survey there were two that were interested in France/Spain. And one interested in east Europe. Can anyone tell who they were?
If my Spanish property search in April comes to fruition I could have a place to stay for beer money. :hat10
Quote from: threepot on August 06, 2015, 05:03:58 PM
Northumberland or Ireland then? :augie
Quote from: blacktiger on August 06, 2015, 05:11:40 PM
Ha ha ha! Yeah.
In the original survey there were two that were interested in France/Spain. And one interested in east Europe. Can anyone tell who they were?
If my Spanish property search in April comes to fruition I could have a place to stay for beer money. :hat10
If we don't do the USA then i'd vote for Ireland in the 1st instance, at least we'd have a bit of an overseas adventure! :icon_cool: (No offence Geoff!)
However, i'm liking BT's thought process! :thumbsup Some Spanish Trails with Paella & Cerveza afterwards? :XXsunsmile
Wait! Here's a thought BT :icon_idea: why not open a Spanish trail-riding centre that serves real ales?? :icon_biggrin:
I'd definitely put my name down for that!! :occasion14
Just about to move house, so perhaps Northumberland, Ireland or Spain next year is more realistic for me.
I still think a meet up this year to plan out a few things re USA and whatever else would be cool.
Maybe you guys should lay this thread to rest and start a new one................ "What DO we want to do for our ride in 2016??" :augie
No Nick the correct title should be 'what can we afford / what will our wives tolerate'.
What we would, almost to man, WANT to do would be a mega round the world trip.
Quote from: NickVladivostock on August 07, 2015, 06:38:54 PM
No Nick the correct title should be 'what can we afford / what will our wives tolerate'.
What we would, almost to man, WANT to do would be a mega round the world trip.
Yeeeha! :iagree
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on August 07, 2015, 11:33:56 AM
Wait! Here's a thought BT :icon_idea: why not open a Spanish trail-riding centre that serves real ales?? :icon_biggrin:
I'd definitely put my name down for that!! :occasion14
's funny because other people have suggested that but I've dismissed the idea because there'd be no beer left by the time any visitors arrived. :^_^ :icon_redface:
BUT, if I do move down there, there would certainly be an open invite for forum members. One stipulation would be that you arrive with plenty of decent RAIB. For the uninitiated that stands for "Real Ale In a Bottle". :thumbsup
Great. So we start at our various locations, i.e. where our sorry arses lands when our other halves kick is out into the street. Leg one, head for Spain, drink Blackies fridge dry. Leg two, head for Vladivostock to drink Nick's vodka and collect him to head for a ferry. Leg three, head for the US to see if they'll let us in. :thumbsup Sorted
The core of a brilliant plan is emerging...
USA has never been an option for me, but if you want a weekend in Northumberland/borders sorting let me know, I can sort out a couple of hundred miles of interesting roads fairly easily.
off to the Pyrenees and Spain at the end of the month, was there in May as well if you want an interesting trip to Spain no problem. Roads no problem, history and roads no problem, History roads and trails no problem or just trails no problem
The States trip does not have to be cancelled interested parties can still go or wait a year
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Quote from: Geoff W on August 07, 2015, 10:12:59 PM
USA has never been an option for me, but if you want a weekend in Northumberland/borders sorting let me know, I can sort out a couple of hundred miles of interesting roads fairly easily.
And I'll say this very quietly.............. ditto. If one or two of you wanted to come here and do the self guided thing I KNOW there would be insured bikes for you to ride, gratis. Just make up your freakin' minds..... :icon_confused: :augie :icon_scratch: :icon_lol:
A few know on here, but we have a house in Southern Spain, only had it a couple of years, but if anyones down that way and we`re there you`re welcome to drop by!
Thats the main reason why i`ve been quiet on here, spending most of our time doing jobs over there and neglecting the Steamer :icon_redface:
Quote from: rf9rider on August 12, 2015, 04:25:36 AM
A few know on here, but we have a house in Southern Spain, only had it a couple of years, but if anyones down that way and we`re there you`re welcome to drop by!
Thats the main reason why i`ve been quiet on here, spending most of our time doing jobs over there and neglecting the Steamer :icon_redface:
Riding to Spain through France on my DR350 catching ferry on the 4th
cheers Spud :thumbsup
We`re not back out there until 2nd week in October.
So to resurrect this thread. I have a plan to ship my Tiger800XC to south America later this year. Probably somewhere around the end of November/early December. The first idea is to ride to Ushuaia and then be back in place for the 2017 DAKAR rally. After that to just work my way north.
How does that relate to this thread? Well, when I'm getting to Ecuador and Columbia I need to make a decision on whether to carry on north and into the USA. That'll probably be May June time(????) and it would be good to join up with a 2017 expedition of Tigers.
My offer still stands if anyone is interested.
I'd also be happy to be a guide for anyone traveling to my Adirondack region.
Tools and garage available, and a nice backyard for a tent.
Quote from: blacktiger on February 10, 2016, 03:05:06 PM
So to resurrect this thread. I have a plan to ship my Tiger800XC to south America later this year. Probably somewhere around the end of November/early December. The first idea is to ride to Ushuaia and then be back in place for the 2017 DAKAR rally. After that to just work my way north.
How does that relate to this thread? Well, when I'm getting to Ecuador and Columbia I need to make a decision on whether to carry on north and into the USA. That'll probably be May June time(????) and it would be good to join up with a 2017 expedition of Tigers.
Sounds like the trip of a lifetime BT :notworthy And as i said before, it would be great to meet up with our colonial Tiger cousins one day! :friday:
Why don't we re-energise the thread into a "Is a Tiger Meet in USA 2017 worth doing?" ? :thumbsup At least that will give the rest of us time enough to save up! :icon_cool:
Title amended.....
So guys, out of the 11 of you who voted for a possible states trip this year, (+ anyone else of course!) who would be interested in looking at the possibility of arranging something for next year? :^_^
We could possibly tie the trip in with Blacktiger's world tour :notworthy or our USA/Canadian members tiger meets?? :icon_cool:
By starting the ball rolling now it would give us all time to plan, prepare & save up :augie accordingly. :icon_scratch:
Any thoughts on the subject?? :ear
Sorted!
Anyone fancy some of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYy6eA5ksk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYy6eA5ksk)
Looks ideal T800XC country.
Hey BT got another link? :^_^
My browser is saying; "video not available"! :icon_scratch:
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on March 03, 2016, 01:49:14 AM
Hey BT got another link? :^_^
My browser is saying; "video not available"! :icon_scratch:
Not really Mat. It's embedded in the post and this is the address at the top of the page.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYy6eA5ksk)
Or change your browser. I recently went to Opera from Edge or Firefox. Edge didn't have very good functionality and Firefox didn't keep your settings and was allowing too many popups and adverts. Opera is working fine......so far.
Managed to get to watch the Continental divide video at last! :thumbsup
:iagree the ride looks awesome, definitely a bucket list item & there were some great 'cow-dodging' moments! :wheel :Topes :icon_lol:
I know it's not quite the same, but Eaglerider has XC's, XRX's, XCX's & Explorers available for hire from some of their locations. :thumbsup
Might be worth a look if any of you guys are still interested? :m
http://www.eaglerider.com/triumph-rentals
Update if anyone's still following. Bikes plus me and buddy Nigel fly into Buenos Aires on November 18th. :rrr
Quote from: blacktiger on August 30, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
Update if anyone's still following. Bikes plus me and buddy Nigel fly into Buenos Aires on November 18th. :rrr
Jammy Barstool!! :icon_cry: Oh to be retired!! :notworthy
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on August 31, 2016, 05:16:01 PM
Jammy Barstool!! :icon_cry: Oh to be retired!! :notworthy
Oh to be single :cp
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on August 31, 2016, 06:39:27 PM
Oh to be single :cp
And have lots of dosh...... :icon_lol:
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on August 31, 2016, 05:16:01 PM
Jammy Barstool!! :icon_cry: Oh to be retired!! :notworthy
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on August 31, 2016, 06:39:27 PM
Oh to be single :cp
Quote from: nickjtc on September 01, 2016, 01:02:21 AM
And have lots of dosh...... :icon_lol:
Yep, when these planets align it's time to go do it. :rrr :wheel :nap repeat................. :*
Quote from: blacktiger on September 01, 2016, 12:01:26 PM
Yep, when these planets align it's time to go do it. :rrr :wheel :nap repeat................. :*
:nap Or not! :icon_rolleyes: :augie
Come on, at least I tried. Cheeky f........
Quote from: blacktiger on May 12, 2017, 02:17:46 PM
Come on, at least I tried. Cheeky f........
:ImaPoser :ImaPoser :*&* True enough BT! :iagree :icon_salut:
And the old girl will be back in blighty in time for the Cotswold meet! :icon_cool:
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on May 12, 2017, 02:20:10 PM
And the old girl will be back in blighty in time for the Cotswold meet! :icon_cool:
The old girl(ie) never left these shores. The firm teenager however............ I'll put off the repairs so that everyone can take the piss. :pottytrain2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U1o6btkb9o