I had my bike out for the first time in months last Thursday. Not really strong enough at the moment but last chance I get before I get properly fixed so gave it a go. Volt meter seemed to be cycling from 14v to 15v in 0.1 steps very quickly ie rising 1v in about 2 seconds. And both headlamp bulbs have blown. Likely the two events are related.
First thing to do tomorrow is check the integrity of the RRs purple sensing wire.
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on December 20, 2015, 12:15:54 AM
And both headlamp bulbs have blown. Likely the two events are related.
Yea... it is highly coincidental that both bulbs would blow at the same time normally.
How cold is it there?
Which mosfet did you get?
~JD
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on December 20, 2015, 12:15:54 AM
And both headlamp bulbs have blown.
Wow, I'm shocked you noticed. Would have thought you'd have more light with 'em out of the way. That does seem odd. Both low and high burn out or just the low?
No it's not cold here yet, only the low beams have blown because I didn't use the hig beams at the time, and the MOSFET is the Electrexworld one with the purple wire which they no longer seem to make.... :icon_rolleyes:
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on December 21, 2015, 07:46:58 PM
No it's not cold here yet, only the low beams have blown because I didn't use the hig beams at the time, and the MOSFET is the Electrexworld one with the purple wire which they no longer seem to make.... :icon_rolleyes:
There's no purple wire on the FH020AA and SH775AA... Please see extremely simple wire diagram below:
I have the Electrex World MOSFET with a purple sensing wire that goes on the +ve battery terminal. It seems they no longer do it, maybe because it's possible to forget to re-connect it (DAMHIK :icon_redface: ) It wasn't on their list long.
I think Chris has one also.....
This is their latest:
http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/acatalog/RR690.html
I've got the other version and when it came wished I'd bought the one you have,I see the one they offer now is different from both of ours :icon_scratch:
Yes, I think they did away with the purple wire and built the voltage sensing into the +ve charging wire. Having also incorporated the Sasqutch mod into the design, the charging lead is heavy enough not to make any noticeable voltage drop between the RR and the battery.
So is it the 690 or the 919 for the Tiger? I'm confused now.
Bob, I had an electrex world RR about 6 years ago which did exactly what you described.
It had only been on the bike for around a month when the problem happen, it took out both dip and full beams which made for an interesting ride home in the dark!
I don't have a voltmeter fitted to the bike, but it was massive over voltage the whole dash got very bright has the head lamps blow.
I tried to contact electrex World for a refund and costs of me taking the bike to a main dealer but they never replied to anything I contacted them with.
Since I've had a triumph RR and a "charging fix" with no problems.
One headlight bulb had blown earlier; I'd forgotten about it until the second one blew. I got home on main beam most of the time without blowing anything else so I think it was only co-incidence. Both bulbs had been in for around 30k miles. Anyway, I got round to checking it today; the purple wire is ok and although the cheap dash voltmeter is showing 14.5 -15v, the actual voltage at the battery is a maximum of 14.6v checked with a good multimeter so the reg rec is ok. I've replaced the bulbs and so will take it for a run once I've done the front brakes.
I had to put off buying an RR for a while...so if i order from these people (not that there are any other options i see)...which one should i get? They're not very good at answering their email.
Quote from: Cos on February 08, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
I had to put off buying an RR for a while...so if i order from these people (not that there are any other options i see)...which one should i get? They're not very good at answering their email.
Cos,
Personally, would try and get the Shindengen FH020AA RR and combine it with the additional harness from Triumph, have been through a few RRs over the years and the only one that has lasted is the Shindengen.
You can get one from these people if you cant find one closer http://www.roadstercycle.com/ (http://www.roadstercycle.com/)
so if i get this...it's pretty much plug and play? no crimping, soldering, etc?
And i'm in Cyprus mate...nothing's closer :BangHead
"Triumph T2500676 Harness
and FH020AA or SH775 Package
This is a T2500676 adapter harness for a direct plug and play for the Triumph Triple. It may fit other Triumphs a.but you'll have to check your connector ends and see. An avid Triumph owner told me it is the same connector found on a lot of other Triumphs. Also has been working on numerous Ducati motorcycles also. Check the forums .The picture of the ends should be a good indication of what it will fit.
R/R option
FH020AA Mosfet
It is, very simple change as per this thread
http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,14996.0.html (http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,14996.0.html)
Quote from: HockleyBoy on February 08, 2016, 02:46:46 PM
Cos,
Personally, would try and get the Shindengen FH020AA RR and combine it with the additional harness from Triumph, have been through a few RRs over the years and the only one that has lasted is the Shindengen.
You can get one from these people if you cant find one closer http://www.roadstercycle.com/ (http://www.roadstercycle.com/)
Looks the same as my Electrex what I didn't like about mine was the extra connections as opposed to wires coming straight out the RR,just another thing to corrode
Cos, given that the jury is still out over my Electrex MOSFET (blown bulbs that might be age or might be volts, I'm not sure yet) I'd go with the Shindengen if you can. there's nothing like user experience....
My dash voltmeter shows I'm getting 14.9 - 15.0 volts at the moment although a multimeter across the battery ata the same time shows only 14.5v, that's why I can't decide. I've fitted acouple of cheap bulbs for now, not the extra bright expensive ones I bought, and I'll see how it goes.
Weather and brake service permitting I'll ride down to the Excel on Friday 200 mileround trip so should be a good enough test.
Thanks for the input...i might go the Shindengen route if it's a surer bet. Being here makes it a pain to have to return parts and i'm not exactly crazy about the way the Electrex people don't reply to emails with questions. Not very confidence-boosting in case of a problematic RR.
Cos,
If its any help, I seem to remember the roadstercycle people were pretty efficient but that was quite a while back. There are cheaper ones available on ebay though.
I did look around on Ebay...for the most part, everything seems to be around 80-90 pounds...and the pound is killing the Euro right now :BangHead
Quote from: Cos on February 10, 2016, 05:47:20 AM
i'm not exactly crazy about the way the Electrex people don't reply to emails with questions. Not very confidence-boosting in case of a problematic RR.
If you have parted with money then I agree with you,but answering emails from folk that haven't doesn't cut it over here,it's at the bottom of the list of things to do you want answers ? Then phone there's no where to hide on a one to one,it's bad enough on eBay never mind trying to run a business.
Hey bixxer, did you get any further with your investigation?
The reason I ask is that I'm just about to buy the RR 690 from Electrex World. I got back yesterday from the highlands but I lost the rev counter at Aultbea, about 300 miles from home. The rev counter fluctuated wildly then zeroed and the temp gauge also zeroed. I did a quick tighten of the battery terminals and this got the temp gauge working but the rev counter still fluctuated initially then died. I had no choice but to soldier on figuring that I'll soon find out if the battery is getting a charge or not. Luckily it was and we made it home ok.
I suppose I'm just looking for confirmation that the RR is probably the most likely candidate here.
X.
Look in the how to section, there's a link to an Electrexworld fault finding pdf which is easy to follow and well written.
I never got a reply from them when I contacted them, but like Chris says, they're not brilliant at that.
My early Electrex MOSFET is holding up, if putting out a little high at times ie 15v instead of 14.7v. I blew another bulb the other day, but think that was down to me having to fit an old bulb in a hurry before it's annual test.
If I was doing thiws again though, I'd be going the FH020AA or Shindingen route.
Thanks john,
I'll do some testing as per the pdf and if required I'll go the Shindengen route.
Cheers,
Alan.
I have the Shindengen SH775 on mine and just put a voltmeter on my dash. At a cold idle it will show 14.1 or 14.2, with my grips and fogs on it will read 14.1 running at 2500rpm or above. Once warmed the volts drop at idle to about 13.6 or so after a lot of highway riding (although I think it is just a little slow to regulate back up). Very easy install. Do they sell any Polaris machines over yonder? You can buy one from the Polaris dealer. Wiring harness is plug and play out of a Rocket 3.
I'll put this as a heads up Tim spotted it the Electrex website says that their Reg/Rec are not suitable for Lithium batteries.