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Title: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on January 06, 2021, 06:21:55 PM
Well last years trip planning ended well didn't it?

I imagine this year will be little better, vaccine or not, but I still want to undertake a couple of group rides.

Working on the basis of not getting out of lockdown type restriction until May, probably not being able to go abroad, where do you fancy?
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 06, 2021, 09:30:20 PM
Part 1.
I'm looking at the OS now to see how many miles I can do on as many different roads in the five mile legal radius from my hoose  :icon_study:

Part 2.
Try to figure out what bits I need to put just ONE bike back together  :rfl
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: JayDub on January 07, 2021, 12:24:36 AM
I'm still lurking around here, although I'm not really supposed to be as I've now sold my steamer.  Justification - I do have several Triumph T-shirts, a wallet and various pictures and bits... Oh, and my winter jacket  :bad  Good to hear from the crew again, hope you're all keeping well.  👍😁
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: London_Phil on January 07, 2021, 08:45:39 PM
We could do a borders challenge... Just ride to the nearest border and see who gets turned back....but realistically, we probably need to look at a number of area runs, to give everyone who cant do 400 miles a day a chance to get together?
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on January 07, 2021, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on January 06, 2021, 09:30:20 PM

Part 2.
Try to figure out what bits I need to put just ONE bike back together  :rfl

Just think of it as a big jigsaw for engineers....
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on January 07, 2021, 10:58:48 PM
Phil, I'll be happy to get the bike out of garage in any way we can this year.  There is only so much cleaning of boots etc one can do!
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Geoff W on January 08, 2021, 11:00:40 AM
My daughter lives in Inverness, I went to stay with her in September, didn't have to dodge patrols of zealous polis on the border, I just avoided the A1. Incidentally I rode up on a BMW 1150 R I acquired from a friend It vibrated so much the headlight fell off, that bike should be listed in an Ann Summers catalogue.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: ghulst on January 08, 2021, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on January 07, 2021, 08:45:39 PM
We could do a borders challenge... Just ride to the nearest border and see who gets turned back....
Not to trigger anything, but post-Brexit, that will undoubtedly be me.  :bad
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on January 09, 2021, 10:42:13 AM
Just claim asylum.  :occasion14
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 11, 2021, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: Nick Calne on January 09, 2021, 10:42:13 AM
Just claim asylum.  :occasion14

Asylum is ONE word for this place :*&*
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: mat-tiger1 on January 12, 2021, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: Nick Calne on January 06, 2021, 06:21:55 PM
Well last years trip planning ended well didn't it?

I imagine this year will be little better, vaccine or not, but I still want to undertake a couple of group rides.

Working on the basis of not getting out of lockdown type restriction until May, probably not being able to go abroad, where do you fancy?

Count me in bud! (Covid restrictions permitting!) 🙄😊👍
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Chris Canning on January 12, 2021, 10:06:25 PM
I admire your optimism cuz my gut feeling says later in the year till we are free or even close.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on January 13, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
May enough people will have some immunity, have been vaccinated and the weather brought about a decline in the virsues spread sufficent for release of people into the wild. (or died?!?!) But you could be right, in which case we need to plan our dreams and execute them like a military plan in whatever window we have, or we won't be going anywhere at all.  5 mile circuit of where we all live in September before we get locked down again?  :m
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Lee337 on January 13, 2021, 02:40:51 PM
I've already done my 5 mile circuit, ridden it, cycled it, walked it, got bored with it.

The closest shop is 3 miles away & I've even used Tigger to go shopping.

Role on when we can get out a little further, although as has been said it's unlikely to be any time soon.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 14, 2021, 02:09:07 AM
Quote from: Nick Calne on January 07, 2021, 10:58:48 PM
There is only so much cleaning of boots etc one can do!

That's not on the service schedule and I can't take them apart so they get left until the soles fall off.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on January 14, 2021, 02:16:17 PM
It is what the off-season is for! Get everything cleaned up, prepped and serivecd so you can leave the garage in April like a newly equipped rider.  That feeling lasts for expectedly one wet ride and then back to normal - until the off season.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on January 14, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: Geoff W on January 08, 2021, 11:00:40 AM
I rode up on a BMW 1150 R I acquired from a friend It vibrated so much the headlight fell off,

BMW stalwarts refer to it as character. I use to upset them by calling it shit engineering.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on January 14, 2021, 03:51:39 PM
For me? Anywhere away from home with some scenery and a decent pub. Roll on summer.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: ghulst on January 14, 2021, 06:00:11 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on January 14, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
BMW stalwarts refer to it as character. I use to upset them by calling it shit engineering.

:icon_mrgreen:

Interesting though. My 1150 GS never vibrated that much. And I have heard fantastic stories of epic BMW failures, but have not experienced any of them myself. My GS was quite reliable actually. ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Mart on January 15, 2021, 09:53:21 AM
I've had several GS's over the years, some smoother than others, but 2 things were constant: When really hot, they sounded like a tin of nuts and bolts in a cement mixer, and the buffeting at speed from the screen was almost unbearable.  I so much prefer my Steamer...
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Lee337 on January 15, 2021, 12:47:36 PM
Around 15 years ago I had an old (1989) Yamaha Super Tenere and remember test riding a GS at the bike show in Peterborough. I remember getting off the GS & thinking my old Tenere was a much better ride, more comfortable, better handling and better engine response.

I also test rode a GS shortly before I bought my Tiger, I made the right choice, the GS just didn't suit me. Hard to put a finger on it but throughout the ride, I didn't gel with it.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Lee337 on January 15, 2021, 12:49:50 PM
Could be up for a group ride later in the year, depending on when & where. I'm taking redundancy at the end of June, so I'm sure I may be able to get a weekend pass before all those jobs the Mrs is saving for me, gets done.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on January 15, 2021, 05:16:58 PM
Quote from: Lee337 on January 15, 2021, 12:49:50 PM
before all those jobs the Mrs is saving for me, gets done.

Surprise her by doing them all. Then there's no excuse for not coming out.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: mat-tiger1 on January 16, 2021, 01:22:14 PM
I wonder if they'll ever allow that strange crowd from the Isle Of White onto the mainland ever again?  :icon_eek: :icon_eek:  :rfl
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Lee337 on January 16, 2021, 01:28:24 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on January 15, 2021, 05:16:58 PM
Surprise her by doing them all. Then there's no excuse for not coming out.

You haven't seen the list - that's a full time job right there  :icon_cry:
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: GavD on January 16, 2021, 03:43:24 PM
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on January 16, 2021, 01:22:14 PM
I wonder if they'll ever allow that strange crowd from the Isle Of White onto the mainland ever again?  :icon_eek: :icon_eek:  :rfl

With our current Covid rate, I don't think you want us over there.

We've all been saying that we'll have to get some 'big island' trips in next year when things improve. So look out. :tin hat
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 16, 2021, 06:05:27 PM
Not that many days ago I would have said Shetland would have been a good option. Just shows you, it only needs a couple to slip through the net, cry Havoc  :nono

Shetland is a great experience anyway, great roads, great food and drink, unexpectedly diverse scenery. I started making arrangements to visit through a contact in 2019 for their 2020 Classic Show (biannual), the rest as they say ..............
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 17, 2021, 06:26:39 PM
I'd love to go back.  Haven't been to Unst since 1996.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on January 17, 2021, 11:10:52 PM
Never been there. Can you get your bike there?  Hell of a haul for Gav and chums!
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 18, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Quote from: Nick Calne on January 17, 2021, 11:10:52 PM
Never been there. Can you get your bike there?  Hell of a haul for Gav and chums!

It's probably only something you'd do as part of a Grand Tour, you have to use the overnight vehicle ferry from Aberdeen, which isn't as pricey as you might think and if you're going to the Classic Show, the organisers will get you a pre arranged discount with Nothlink who operate the ferries.

Orkney is a bit more accessible, with the shortest sailing from Scrabster, interesting in many ways but not memorable for the riding.

The Outer Hebridies are in a category all of their own and quite accessible with several options.

Gav & chums could then dine out for years on tales of their British Isles extreme ends rides, LE JOG is just so last century  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: GavD on January 18, 2021, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on January 18, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
It's probably only something you'd do as part of a Grand Tour, you have to use the overnight vehicle ferry from Aberdeen, which isn't as pricey as you might think and if you're going to the Classic Show, the organisers will get you a pre arranged discount with Nothlink who operate the ferries.

Orkney is a bit more accessible, with the shortest sailing from Scrabster, interesting in many ways but not memorable for the riding.

The Outer Hebridies are in a category all of their own and quite accessible with several options.

Gav & chums could then dine out for years on tales of their British Isles extreme ends rides, LE JOG is just so last century  :icon_wink:

I have been up that way a few times, but always on a grey hunk of steel, plodding around at 5 knots pretending to search for russian submarines. :sleepy1
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Geoff W on January 22, 2021, 06:30:07 PM
I live about half way between IOW and Inverness/Aberdeen. You are all welcome to an overnight stop, with luck the village pub will re-open by then.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 24, 2021, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: GavD on January 18, 2021, 07:41:11 PM
I have been up that way a few times, but always on a grey hunk of steel, plodding around at 5 knots pretending to search for russian submarines. :sleepy1

That's life in a blue Suit for you  ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: mat-tiger1 on January 25, 2021, 05:46:56 PM
Thinking of something like this for later this year (all being well!  :icon_rolleyes:) Has anyone used them before?  :icon_scratch:

https://www.mcitours.com/S02/2/France-Pyrenees.html
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on January 25, 2021, 08:36:41 PM
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on January 25, 2021, 05:46:56 PM
Thinking of something like this for later this year (all being well!  :icon_rolleyes:) Has anyone used them before?  :icon_scratch:

https://www.mcitours.com/S02/2/France-Pyrenees.html

Why bother? It's so easy to plan it all yourself in that area. I mean, just look at all the passes that the Tour de France uses for the French side. Peyresorde, Tourmalet, D'aspin etc. Then just hop over on one of the many passes into Spain for some sunshine. I can point you towards some dirt as well if needed/wanted. Done it all around there.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 26, 2021, 09:17:26 PM
I agree. A cabin on one of the Yello sites near where you want to be and a good road map for deciding the best roads is all you need. 
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on January 26, 2021, 09:37:07 PM
And just remember that France closes at 8pm and Spain doesn't get going until 9pm. :^_^
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 07, 2021, 07:41:12 PM
I legitimised a lockdown busting ride this weekend by making sure I did some essential shopping.  Some food and of course valentines day is nearly here and it is essential I don't get killed for forgetting, so a card etc too.

10 degrees and sunny.

My god it was good.  :rrr
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on February 07, 2021, 08:01:53 PM
10, TEN degrees? Over here I have to move the decimal point to make 0.10 degrees.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on February 07, 2021, 08:37:05 PM
Quote from: Nick Calne on February 07, 2021, 07:41:12 PM
I legitimised a lockdown busting ride this weekend by making sure I did some essential shopping. 10 degrees and sunny. My god it was good.  :rrr

Where did you go for the groceries, South of France  :*
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: ghulst on February 07, 2021, 08:50:11 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/61ce6fc4714c096176a2ea8a8ec9e387.jpg)

As the Mini is looking like this, the Tiger is not going anywhere for now. ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 07, 2021, 11:03:30 PM
Did you guys not have a warm Saturday then? It was bloody cold today.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 07, 2021, 11:05:06 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on February 07, 2021, 08:37:05 PM
Where did you go for the groceries, South of France  :*

I should have, perhaps delivery some groceries to John Stenhouse and Masayo!
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on February 08, 2021, 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: Nick Calne on February 07, 2021, 11:05:06 PM
I should have, perhaps delivery some groceries to John Stenhouse and Masayo!

:icon_scratch: I wonder how much tent space he has  ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on February 11, 2021, 06:11:26 PM
Quote from: Nick Calne on January 06, 2021, 06:21:55 PM
Well last years trip planning ended well didn't it?

I imagine this year will be little better, vaccine or not, but I still want to undertake a couple of group rides.

Working on the basis of not getting out of lockdown type restriction until May, probably not being able to go abroad, where do you fancy?

So back to original question. I recently saw that the Isle of Man had reopened it Pubs etc. Their recovery is way ahead of ours on the mainland. So what about heading there for our summer TT (TigerTriple) trip?
I believe the actual TT races have already been cancelled. So it should be nice and free of traffic for us at any time of year. There's even 200 miles of dirt trails to legally ride over there.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 11, 2021, 07:17:00 PM
Interesting suggestion! Always good when you have to take a ferry and it has got to be the cheapest time ever to go. I'll ask the Wiltshire Tigers for their thoughts.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on February 11, 2021, 07:51:41 PM
e.g. https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/welbeck-amp-restaurant.html?aid=343339;label=operasoft-sdg015-343339;sid=9455ec7119bcbbf7e87a1e9a4da32304;checkin=2021-07-09;checkout=2021-07-15;room1=A;homd=1;srpvid=478c84514e9c01f1;srepoch=1613069411;atlas_src=hp_iw_btn

6 nights in July.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 11, 2021, 08:13:17 PM
Got my attention....
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 11, 2021, 08:44:02 PM
Ferry from Liverpool?

If so, is it a meet up in North Wales, then hop over?
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on February 11, 2021, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: Nick Calne on February 11, 2021, 08:44:02 PM
Ferry from Liverpool?

If so, is it a meet up in North Wales, then hop over?

Or Heysham.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on February 12, 2021, 11:09:43 AM
Tell Stan Pinnock that we're not doing it next week. He's right, the borders are closed......at the moment. But come summer..........things are bound to open up. And, with the IOM being a British dependency, they could well let us in before anyone else does.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Chris Canning on February 12, 2021, 11:11:58 AM
With several friends who live over....yep great for the natives, they have all been recently let out from a very severe lockdown, for us outsiders....currently and for the future...and last year....off the ferry and straight into a hotel for 10 days at your expense, any attempt to beat the system....straight to jail.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on February 12, 2021, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: Chris Canning on February 12, 2021, 11:11:58 AM
With several friends who live over....yep great for the natives, they have all been recently let out from a very severe lockdown, for us outsiders....currently and for the future...and last year....off the ferry and straight into a hotel for 10 days at your expense, any attempt to beat the system....straight to jail.

Currently...............................My proposal wasn't for currently. Nor next month. I'm hopeful that once most of the population has had a covid jab, we'll be allowed out to travel around the UK. So July, August or September. We all need to be hopeful and have something to look forward to.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Chris Canning on February 12, 2021, 04:12:03 PM
If it wasn't for friends who live there, I'd have the same rosy view of the IoM, but believe me the government is right of Attila The Hun.

As for us all getting out of jail....have a mate who's son and daughter in law work at a university well they did, they been working at home since early last year, they've been informed that it's highly unlikely they'll be back this side of September, which really is an insight into the reality that the government hasn't got the balls to tell the populace.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on February 12, 2021, 05:36:14 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on February 11, 2021, 06:11:26 PM
So back to original question. I recently saw that the Isle of Man had reopened it Pubs etc. Their recovery is way ahead of ours on the mainland. So what about heading there for our summer TT (TigerTriple) trip?
I believe the actual TT races have already been cancelled. So it should be nice and free of traffic for us at any time of year. There's even 200 miles of dirt trails to legally ride over there.

There's a reason they're back in the pubs, that's because there's no tourists on the island, only very strictly controlled entry, they put around 50 people in jail for breaking local rules. We have fiends on the Island, they didn't even blink, just got on with it. If you think about it, we're on the island of the UK and perhaps that's what we should have done a lot sooner.

That suggestion has merit though, some nice roads away from the "circuit", plenty of accommodation and camping, downside is the ferry is quite expensive. I wonder how busy the ferries will be without the team support crews?

Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Chris Canning on February 12, 2021, 06:10:45 PM
That's the irony in all of this Covid thing, the IoM got their Scht together pretty dam quick it's only take the rest of the UK 12 months to have the same light bulb moment of keeping people out....

What i'd Forgotten....if residents had been off the IoM they were allowed to go home to self isolate and were allowed out an hour a day for fresh air,and someone came round to check...
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 12, 2021, 08:03:02 PM
 I think a symptom of the covid crisis might be failing to envisage the future and therefore comprehend the future tense.  People seem to think it'll be like this forever and lose the ability to correctly parse a simply message.

I think it is a magnificent suggestion to go to the Isle of Man and that maybe as far afield as we can all reasonably hope to travel.  It might be cool to do what we did
when we went to Ireland and give everyone a chance to meet up on the evening before the ferry.  Obviously we can't do that in Liverpool as we'll only have one bike between us to take to the Isle of Man.

Roll on Summer!
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Chris Canning on February 12, 2021, 09:20:34 PM
Baring mind this coved jab is predominantly to stop you dying and not stop you catching it and being ill, I think we are months away from any kind of jolly, with luck maybe we can go back to a day out jolly as per mid last year.

Roll on summer...I agree 2022.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 12, 2021, 10:11:46 PM
It may or may not be sorted by then. We'll see, but as I see it we need to ready to roll when presented with an opportunity to do so.

One thing is for certain life is for living and it is passing us by.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: mat-tiger1 on February 13, 2021, 10:53:41 AM
Count me in for anything that gets me outdoors on the bike & hopefully in a pub afterwards talking sh*# with you guys! :thumbsup :wheel
(Hopefully by then I'll be on a new 900RP!)  :icon_cool: ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 14, 2021, 09:19:41 PM
I think late July/early Aug would be a good bet, although we are fairly flexible as long as we're given enough notice eh?

I want to get a marker down with dates to avoid as I've missed too many previous meets due to clashes with race weekends.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Sin_Tiger on February 15, 2021, 02:40:54 AM
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on February 13, 2021, 10:53:41 AM
Count me in for anything that gets me outdoors on the bike & hopefully in a pub afterwards talking sh*# with you guys! :thumbsup :wheel
(Hopefully by then I'll be on a new 900RP!)  :icon_cool: ;)

Wot, not an 850 Sport  :mut
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on February 15, 2021, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on February 15, 2021, 02:40:54 AM
Wot, not an 850 Sport  :mut

More to the point; what's a 900RP?
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: mat-tiger1 on February 15, 2021, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on February 15, 2021, 10:58:57 AM
More to the point; what's a 900RP?

:bug_eye  :nono
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: blacktiger on February 15, 2021, 12:31:18 PM
Ah, Rally Pro. Right. I bet that's your screen saver.........
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: mat-tiger1 on February 15, 2021, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on February 15, 2021, 12:31:18 PM
Ah, Rally Pro. Right. I bet that's your screen saver.........

How'd you guess?   ;) :nod :icon_cool: :wings
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: ghulst on February 15, 2021, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: mat-tiger1 on February 15, 2021, 12:27:59 PM
:bug_eye :nono


Pssst, make sure the image you upload is a jpg/gif/png otherwise it does not show. ;)


(https://i1.wp.com/itmate.co.za/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/tiger-900-rally-pro-20MY-AZ4I4550-AB-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 15, 2021, 09:54:28 PM
Nick,  If we're pretty much decided this is what we're  going to do, can you start a new TT 2021org thread and I'll keep it tidy and on track, otherwise the important stuff will get lost in the noise.

We can let the general chat about the trip carry on here.  Anything I prune from the org thread I'll put here too ;)
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 16, 2021, 09:03:38 PM
I'll do it now. Hang on a mo.
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Nick Calne on February 16, 2021, 09:29:11 PM
Yup done. How's that for ya? :occasion14
Title: Re: 2021 Survivors Ride
Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 21, 2021, 05:01:04 AM


Ta!  I'll get round to weeding the new one later today.
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