I have been looking at the information on the three spoke conversion for the front / rear wheels. I have a few questions on this. The write-ups on how to are stellar!
Thank you Mustang for this (and other topics) http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,7197 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,7197)
I see that some of the conversions use wheels from a 93 to 98 from a Triumph Trophy, I see references to a 900 and 1200 is there a difference? And does anyone know of a source beyond Bike Bandit?
Is it possible to get any Front Rim that is 19X2.5 (or Rear Rim that is 17X3)? And does anyone know of a source?
Rear Questions:
And please correct me if I am wrong (yes it WILL happen a lot), is the rear the simpler conversion?
From what I have read it is just a straight swap:
Using this diagram for the Trophy Wheel:
http://www.bikebandit.com/1996-triumph- ... #sch561597 (http://www.bikebandit.com/1996-triumph-trophy/o/m17544#sch561597)
You use Part #1 Rear Wheel Assembly from the Trophy and put all the original parts from the Tiger back on and bolt her up?
Front Question:
Would any of the members who have done this conversion be willing to make the necessary modifications to the parts / machining the needed plates (I of course would compensate) as I do not have a lathe / machine shop?
Quote from: "Rapier"I see that some of the conversions use wheels from a 93 to 98 from a Triumph Trophy, I see references to a 900 and 1200 is there a difference?
same wheelsQuoteAnd does anyone know of a source beyond Bike Bandit?
Is it possible to get any Front Rim that is 19X2.5 (or Rear Rim that is 17X3)? And does anyone know of a source?
EBAY rears turn up all the time fronts not as oftenQuoteRear Questions:
And please correct me if I am wrong (yes it WILL happen a lot), is the rear the simpler conversion?
From what I have read it is just a straight swap:
everything is the same except the brake rotor , you HAVE to use a trophy rotorQuoteFront Question:
Would any of the members who have done this conversion be willing to make the necessary modifications to the parts / machining the needed plates (I of course would compensate) as I do not have a lathe / machine shop?
what side of the big pond are you on USA or UK?
the front wheel requires 2 spacers to center the wheel and also allow for the different size bearing axle hole.
if you want a working speedometer you also need a trophy spedo drive that gets heavily modified
you need two adapter plates for the calipers to bolt up to the forks
and you also have to use trophy front rotors which have been flipped upside down so they will clear the fork legs .
the easy way is to get a complete front end off a trophy and (triple trees and all) and swap your tiger upper fork tubes for the trophy tubes and use the trophy lowers with all the other trophy front end bits .
yea the front's not as easy as the rear
Thanks Mustang, I had a feeling you would be the first to respond.
I am just a bit south of you in North Carolina.
Clarification on the front:
If I can get the whole triple tree down from a Trophy, the only issue is mating of the cable lengths.
no a bone stock speedo cable from trophy will work so wont the tiger cable , you just need a trophy speedo drive .
and I did change my front brake lines to galfers that were 1 1/2 inch longer , although you could probably get away with the std tiger brake lines
If you do go down the route of using the Trophy triple trees, you`ll have to drill holes in the top one, and fit some bar clamps, or buy an aftermarket top yoke.
Be careful what model you get as some don`t fit, if you read through ROBs post about the conversion it`s all in there.
You can use the standard Tiger brake lines.
And you will need a longer speedo cable, they are available from Sprint manufacturing here in the UK or probably cheaper for you to get one made up over there.
I used the cable that came with my ebay trophy speedo drive ....worked fine
but I also routed the cable like this and it had lots of room
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My speedo cable is routed the conventional way, with the speedo drive facing towards the rear, thats why you need the longer cable doing it that way.
With the Trophy fork legs and mudguard fitted, theres no way to run the cable down like you have Mustang.
This is great folks!
My Winter/ limited riding (December to Febuary :D aint the south great) season is gettin full of great garage projects!
Keep us posted with a few pictures.
Pricing query, is 390$ for the front and rear wheels from a 1991 Trophy a good deal?
No rotors or anything, just the cast pieces?
Speaking on rotors - I see used ones around 100 ~ opinion, buy new, or trust in ebay?
Quote from: "Rapier"Pricing query, is 390$ for the front and rear wheels from a 1991 Trophy a good deal?
No rotors or anything, just the cast pieces?
Speaking on rotors - I see used ones around 100 ~ opinion, buy new, or trust in ebay?
not a bad price .but you may need to replace the bearings
are they black 3 spokes ? cuz otherwise I think they are 18 inch rear
myself I would be patient for a set of 95 or later black 3 spokes for a trophy or sprint ,or speed trip (the sprint and speed trip wheels need to be from early models with the same engine as your tiger)
ebay rotors work for me as long as you got an honest seller
As Mustang pointed out, the early Trophy and Trident (91 -93 i think) had six spoke alloys, the rear being 18 inch, front 17 inch.
I have these fitted to my number 1 Steamer, they work fine, and i prefer the look to the 3 spokes, but rear tyre choice is limited, and i had to lower the rear of the bike by turning the eccentric adjusters 180 degrees and lifting the chain guard an inch as it was even higher than stock!
And if the 3 spoke wheels are from a carbed model, they will fit.
good to see I'm not the only one who numbers their tiggers hehehe :wink:
Never had 3 of the same model bike before :lol:
It must be love :oops:
Quote from: "rf9rider"Never had 3 of the same model bike before :lol:
It must be love :oops:
fetish ? insanity ? or just plain stoopid :ImaPoser
actually all three are setup different , ones a hack ones a corner carver touring bike , and the other one's mrs. M's ride
psst! lookin for #4
You may be looking for #4, but looks like I have 3 spoke wheels on the way...
On a side note, does anyone *cough* Mustang *cough* know what capacity Torque Wrench would be a good all rounder for the Tiger?
Such as a Torque Wrench that is from 5-80 ft. lbs is to small / right or that a Torque Wrench, 25-250 ft. lbs it too big / right.
ALso wondering from experience - if there is a brand to get / avoid, and if anyone knows a good price range?
Craftsman makes a fairly decent click type wrench for under a 100 bucks
5-80 will do most things on a tigger but there are times when you need the big boy , like for axle nuts , head bolts .countershaft sprocket etc, so you really need both
well crud...
And thanks :D
Quote from: "Mustang"Craftsman makes a fairly decent click type wrench for under a 100 bucks
I've found I need at least 2 torque wrenches. 1 that's between 20 and 150 ft/lbs and 1 that's between 5-200
inch/lbs . I've once needed one that could go to 200 ft/lbs for a crankshaft nut, but that was a one-time deal.
(I've switched all my tools to Craftsman lifetime except where I need the extra quality in extractors and high-torque torx, whereas that's Snapon. I've lost too many hundreds of dollars in time and money on using the cheap chinese-made stuff from home depot!)
Off to Sears this weekend I guess... oh darn!
Thinking these should do OK:
Craftsman Digitork® Torque Wrench, 5-80 ft. lbs., 3/8 in. Drive
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1260 ... 0P?prdNo=1 (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00944596000P?prdNo=1)
Craftsman Digitork® Torque Wrench, 25-250 ft. lbs., 1/2 in. Drive
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1260 ... 0P?prdNo=4 (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00944597000P?prdNo=4)
Which match all my other Craftsman tools 8)
this one is just as good and only 80 bucks .......and to be honest I don't bother with a torque wrench on the axles or sprocket nut , good -n-fuken tite is good enough on them . :wink:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1260 ... ockType=G2 (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00944594000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2)
Digitorq, nice. A little too expensive for my wallet tho. I got the craftsmen pop-type torque wrenches. They're around $75 and still have the lifetime warranty.
Consider 5 ft/lbs is 75 inch/lbs
With all this aluminum I've found I need smaller measurements than 75 inch/lbs. Just sayin'