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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: BigDan on October 31, 2011, 09:03:45 AM

Title: What is hunting?
Post by: BigDan on October 31, 2011, 09:03:45 AM
Hi guys,

I've read a few times now about these bikes "hunting". What is that?

Cheers,
Dan
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on October 31, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
I guess you're referring to the issue at 2-3000 rpm on a steady throttle.  Many injected Tigers have a hard time running smoothly in this range which is particularly annoying as that's about 28-30mph. The bike jerks as if you're snatching the throttle on and off.  They all seem to do it to some extent but some are worse than others.
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Post by: iansoady on October 31, 2011, 11:54:04 AM
Yes, also at idle. What happens at idle is that the ECU has a target engine speed. If the actual speed drops below this the IACV will open allowing more air in hence the engine speeds up - but it overshoots slightly. The IACV then closes, engine slows down, again overshoots and the cycle starts again.

The mechanism for the effect that BB mentions is caused by a slightly different mechanism but the effect is similar.

If you listen to an old-style diesel with a mechanical governor idling, you hear the same effect but more pronounced.
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Post by: BigDan on October 31, 2011, 08:59:49 PM
Picking mine up tomorrow, hope it doesn't do that :(

Is there a way of fixing it?
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Post by: Chris Canning on October 31, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: "BigDan"Picking mine up tomorrow, hope it doesn't do that :(

Is there a way of fixing it?

They all do it,there's War and Piece on fuel mapping on here,or an 02 plug,it's like having tooth ache and can't stopping poking it!!,I've found it only does it if you ride in a certain way,I don't,so long as your on the throttle or off it, it's fine,it's when you start fannying about feathering the throttle  :wink:
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Post by: BigDan on October 31, 2011, 10:37:11 PM
Fair enough, i'll bear that in mind :)
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Post by: metalguru on November 01, 2011, 05:06:35 PM
Have a look in here as no hunting at all, has taken a long time to get a good balance!!

http://tigertriple.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=100 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,9326&start=100)
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Post by: Crazylegs on November 02, 2011, 04:36:32 PM
I just picked up a '99 and after sorting a plug problem, I'm happy to say I've had 1200 surge free klicks on her. I'm not sure if the hunting is more pronounced with certain years? :?:  You will notice more of a jerky throttle response if your used to carbed bikes but that is easily adjusted to  :wink:. Have fun with your new ride! :D
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Post by: BigDan on November 03, 2011, 08:37:40 PM
Yeaaahhhh! Picked up my Tiger today xD Noticed this hunting thing very slightly but not badly at all, a lot smoother than my old carbed Bandit (but then again, it was running lean lol).

I'm well happy with it! It was advertised as coming with panniers, and when I test-rode it the panniers were on, but on collection it had the top box too!! Sorted. New brakes, fully serviced, and ready to rock.

Will get some pictures up tomorrow.
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Post by: KuzzinKenny on November 04, 2011, 12:50:31 AM
Hey BigDan !! congrats on the new 2 you Tigger !! now i can say.............

Welcome to TT.com  :occasion14

 :D

KK
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 05, 2011, 11:34:18 AM
Good buy, Scotland is closer than you might think  :wink:
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Post by: blacktiger on November 07, 2011, 10:59:05 AM
Quote from: "BigDan"I'm well happy with it! It was advertised as coming with panniers, and when I test-rode it the panniers were on, but on collection it had the top box too!! Sorted. New brakes, fully serviced, and ready to rock.

Will get some pictures up tomorrow.


You will be. They're great, underrated bikes and it will serve you well. Welcome to the forum.
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Post by: BigDan on November 07, 2011, 11:14:19 AM
Cheers mate, yeah I had my first proper ride on it Sunday, 200 miles of comfort, grins, a non-moaning female pillion, and good fuel economy!!

Love it.

Particularly enjoy accelerating from 40ish in 6th, the whole bike just rumbles and thunders beneath ya xD
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Post by: Chris Canning on November 07, 2011, 04:49:54 PM
As a certain gent said on here not so long back 'The search button is your friend' :roll:

If you think it's good now,Blanking plate out of the air box,open can,different fuel map,19t engine sprocket.

Last may I had my only encounter in open combat with two lads on 1050 on the way back from the NW200,for what ever reason I was expecting e'm to come by me at some kind of speed(they were both 1 up to my 2),in the end they had to stop for fuel,spoke to one of e'm the following day F me he says that 955 goes well,did you have to stop for fuel?? e'rr no  :D,I tell him I was expecting them to come past,jesus he says it was all we we worth to hang on the back.

It might be an old model but there's life in the old dog yet,thats the bike not me!! well it might be  :oops:
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Post by: BigDan on November 07, 2011, 07:13:28 PM
My last bike was a Bandit, and I was constantly messing with it. I found myself actually making things worse so -at least for now- I won't be touching it! :P

Except for a screen and a 19t sprocket.
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Post by: Mustang on November 07, 2011, 08:19:11 PM
Quote from: "BigDan"My last bike was a Bandit, and I was constantly messing with it. I found myself actually making things worse so -at least for now- I won't be touching it! :P

Except for a screen and a 19t sprocket.

Famous Last Words .................. :ImaPoser
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Post by: Chris Canning on November 07, 2011, 08:26:25 PM
If you put a 19t on without the mods it'll fall flat on it's face,no more than a overdrive to save fuel,with the mods it'll pull it just like an 18.

Most important of all crash bars,you will fall off it thats a dead cert,just make sure you have them on when you do.

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Post by: BigDan on November 08, 2011, 12:46:43 AM
Fuck it then, I'm not even changing that :P

I'm not gonna do anything to start the ball rolling :P
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Post by: Mustang on November 08, 2011, 01:50:01 AM
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Post by: Chris Canning on November 08, 2011, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: "BigDan"Fuck it then, I'm not even changing that :P

I'm not gonna do anything to start the ball rolling :P

Thats a good plan,let the novelty wear off,you'll see the light quicker that way.

The 19t will knock 500 revs off in top,the rest make's sure there's zero loss in performance with the extra tooth,but a decent amount of time in stock trim won't do you any harm.

BUT do look for crash bars(Touratech)they work,I know  :oops:
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