Hi All,
I am new on this forum, my name is Phil and I currently own a T100. I am planning to buy a Tiger in the spring as a traveling bike. I have read some good reviews on the 2005 model but I have also read a readers's letter to a Belgian bike magazine reporting a ticking noise in the front suspension and the engine cutting off when stopping. Both problems reportedly could not be solved by the dealer.
Are there owners of a 2005 model on the forum and what's your opinion on the bike.
Phil
There are a few 2004.5 and 2005 owners here.
I haven't heard of the problems you mention before. My 2005 only has 1500 miles on it but it performs flawlessly. The bike feels much lighter and more flickable than it has a right to, and plenty of power throughout the range. It is also utterly comfortable for me or with a pillion, over all kinds of surfaces and distances.
I bought mine as a travelling machine and also have an 01 Daytona.
Quote from: "abell"There are a few 2004.5 and 2005 owners here.
I haven't heard of the problems you mention before. My 2005 only has 1500 miles on it but it performs flawlessly. The bike feels much lighter and more flickable than it has a right to, and plenty of power throughout the range. It is also utterly comfortable for me or with a pillion, over all kinds of surfaces and distances.
I bought mine as a travelling machine and also have an 01 Daytona.
Glad to hear it, I didn't really think there was any truth in it or maybe it's just one of those constantly complaining guys, but it makes you worry a bit. Anyway in march when my dealer gets the demo's and I like the ride, a purchase will be made.
Phil
Hi T_Phil
Had the 2005 since june this year took it all the way to kefalonia and back to the U.K.
France, Switzerland, Italy not one noise, rattle, misfire, just one amazing bike :D Dont always believe what you read in the bike press......
Take the test ride, you'll know what suits you, what feels right,
Also had the missus on the back and the kitchen sink !!!!! So the journey was never going be easy :D (just joking she was fantastic and the missus was as well)
Havent managed a trip abroad yet but have done 9800 miles in the past 8 months and took the wife and a full set of luggage + tent around Scotland 1200 miles in the pissing rain without a problem.
The Tiger may not be everybodyÌs cup of tea but I havenÌt had a single day so far where I thought there might be something wrong with the bike, or where I felt like the bike had let me down in any way.
get one you cant go wrong
Quote from: "T_Phil"Hi All,
a ticking noise in the front suspension and the engine cutting off when stopping.
Phil
I've had my 05 at 100 mph on the highway, all over the dirt on washboard bumps, wet & icy roads and all kinds in between...and that's just the first 1000 miles. Haven't heard any ticking noises--though that may be cause I can't hear much at all over the wind noise, when at speed--and the only time the engine cuts off when stopping is if I put the kickstand down while still in gear. Which I always do on purpose, of course. :roll: Later, when I start dropping the machine in swamps and off cliffs, I do expect more of that.
Now, this
is an orange one, which I understand are more robust as well as faster than the other colors. What I would do is, if there's a bike (or car or whatever) that you like, and the machine in question isn't universally loathed by the press and its users, just get on one and try. If you make the machine your own you will fall in love with it; and as with any lover, you'll soon learn to forgive any idiosyncracies that emerge. Unless of course you can force it to change.
Quote from: "ridin gaijin"...Now, this is an orange one, which I understand are more robust as well as faster than the other colors...
And don't forget much better looking. :wink:
I took one for a test ride a couple weeks ago - back when it was a balmy 35F in Chicago - and here's what I thought:
- First, I'm only 5'8", and thought I'd be too short for the Tiger. It was tall, but not unmanagable. It does feel very well sorted once moving, and I was very comfortable within a few miles. I hopped a few curbs, took it through a park playground sand area, and hit every pothole I could find. This bike is surprisingly easy to ride. I then took it out on the highway, since I'll use it occasionally to commute. The wind blast was loud, but I'm sure a bigger windshield will help here. Power is everywhere. Low, high, middle - I also have an '02 955i Daytona, and I am a bit biased towards the big triple engine. Smooth and powerful.
For comparison, I also have ridden the KLR650 - which is another great bike, but more dirt-oriented - I need more highway capabilities.
I have ridden the GS as well, but that thing is, and feels like, a TANK. I'd be scared in a gravel pariking lot with the BMW.
I'm shopping for a Tiger now. Should have either an '04 (Black)or '05 (Fast Orange) by Spring!!
I already have a Canada and Mexico trip planned for 2005!
Can you say "Happy New Year!!!"? I knew you could...
:lol:
Thanks all for your replies, I feel much more confident about the bike now. I think my Bonnie will have a playmate sometime in the spring.
Phil
Ignore what they say about Orange...Black is yer colour. BLACK.
But it'd have to be an '04 or earlier 'cos the buggers don't do it anymore.
NO NO NO......
SILVER is the colour, much less drag coeffecient than any other colours, also deflects any solar radiation that may cause heating of the fuel thus slowing the fluid burn process within the chamber this means downhill with the wind behind you and if travelling south ( its more downhill ) the silver tiger is a tad faster than all other colours. :wink:
Sorry i have a tendancy to bulls**t :wink:
Merry Xmas one and all and may santa bring toys for the big cats. :D :D
Quote from: "Brock"Ignore what they say about Orange...Black is yer colour. BLACK.
But it'd have to be an '04 or earlier 'cos the buggers don't do it anymore.
I think one of your countrymen wrote something about this...it was a while ago tho...I think he called it natural selection, amigo...?
:D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: "violin"NO NO NO......
SILVER is the colour, much less drag coeffecient than any other colours, also deflects any solar radiation that may cause heating of the fuel thus slowing the fluid burn process within the chamber this means downhill with the wind behind you and if travelling south ( its more downhill ) the silver tiger is a tad faster than all other colours. :wink:
Sorry i have a tendancy to bulls**t :wink:
Merry Xmas one and all and may santa bring toys for the big cats. :D :D
I will have to inform you that the missus says racing green so that's what it will be. As far as "fast" is concerned they don't call it "Racing" green for nothing.
Phil
>I will have to inform you that the missus says
>racing green so that's what it will be.
It is one of the factory's best paint colors and works well on the Tiger, very tasteful.
Funny how we continue to be hunter gatherers making major desicions about world politics and the shape of the social economic climate we live in but when she who must be obeyed says racing green what can we do but agree (we bring home the mammoth but she hold the purse strings)
Gaijin you were right, all down to natural selection, hey ho............
Quote from: "abell"It is one of the factory's best paint colors and works well on the Tiger, very tasteful.
Abell, God bless you, I have never seen the words "Tiger" (as in Triumph) and "tasteful" in the same sentence before!! You are a pioneer.
:)
Quote from: "Brock"Ignore what they say about Orange...Black is yer colour. BLACK.
But it'd have to be an '04 or earlier 'cos the buggers don't do it anymore.
Obviously not a good colour as it has been discontinued. In fact I think Obsolete springs to mind. :wink:
Quote from: "violin"NO NO NO......
SILVER is the colour, much less drag coeffecient than any other colours.....
The only reason a Silver one could be quicker as it is a little lighter. This is because it is only in primer. They forgot the topcoat. :lol:
Definately Silver, more aerodynamic I've been told and despite what most people opinions are, the new wheels look much better ( modern ) than the dirty spokes
Hello All!
I would like to weigh in on the discussion. I was a proud owner of a Roulette Green 2002 Tiger until this past June. The Green Tiger was laid to rest under a Ford Ranger SUV. I replaced it with a 2005 Orange (Orange being the fastest and all!) Tiger in July. It did have the fuel injection problem with stalling. It also has a mysterious "knock" in the front. The stalling problem was solved by installing the perfomance pipe and changing the fuel map. The knock is still there. It is not the steering head bearings. I think it is a component under the fairing that makes the noise when going over rough stuff.
I have 8700 miles on it. None of the mentioned problems are even close to making me unhappy with the Tiger. If I get run over again tommorow, I will buy another.
Roy
Quote from: "Roy"Hello All!
If I get run over again tommorow, I will buy another.
Roy
Let's hope if you ever get run over that you will be able to buy a new Tiger. Better not try it though, stay on your wheels.
Phil
Quote from: "Roy"It also has a mysterious "knock" in the front. The stalling problem was solved by installing the perfomance pipe and changing the fuel map. The knock is still there. It is not the steering head bearings. I think it is a component under the fairing that makes the noise when going over rough stuff.
Roy
That is the only problem I've had in 3000 plus miles. In another thread this has been discussed, and it was the concensus that it was some sort of component behind the fairing that jiggles enough to make a clunking sound. I thought it was the headset at first, but everthing is in good shape. I only notice this clunking when I ride off the sidwalk/curb and onto the street.
Quote from: "Roy"It also has a mysterious "knock" in the front. Roy
I thought the other thread came to the conclusion that it was the fork springs cluncking inside the legs on big bumps.
I've had my 05 just a few weeks now, having previously put 10k miles on an 04 before that. It's still a little early to make fully informed comments but I can't ignore the thread title.
What did strike me was the new bike definately has a "fully-sorted" feel to it over the 04. The new frame geometry and suspension set-up definately provide a taughter ride which may favour those wishing to push it a little. I'm not sure if this is an improvement for big-milage / laid-back touring, and I'm still coming to terms with the "modern" alloy wheels....
I too have the knocking sound in the front-end which is a little worrying. I've been told it could be the forks, loose brake pads, loose ignition switch, or something loose in the fairing. I certainly intend to find out and correct it if possible. One thing no-one's mentioned is the new bike doesn't have the burbly-backfire the 04 had, a characteristic which I really liked. The dealer said some mod had been made to eliminate this following complaints from owners of other Triumph models which share this engine ?
As for colour, mine as you know is BRG. It's not the fastest because I ride it!! But it's certainly the most attractive factory colour with the new silver frame, and I'm really surprised Black is no longer available.
I still hope to offer a more objective comparison when the new bike has loosened up a little more and covered more miles.
I've had my Silver 05 just over 6 months now, I have done 5000 miles riding into London everyday.
My 6 month report is the bike feels so stable and balanced compared to most other bikes I have ridden lately. ( especially a TDM 900... horrid )
It seemed very big at first compared to the XT600 it replaced but got used to that very quickly. It goes like thunder which upsets a lot of CBR600's and the like that seem to have no idea of the performance of this bike.
I tested the 05 against the 04 before buying and the 05 felt much tighter and sportier
46 mpg in heavy traffic, burns no oil at all and my exhaust gurgles wonderfully on decceleration. Unlike others I also like the alloys over the spokes and Silver ones are faster because the colour acts like a solar panel so it is faster when its sunny, that what those black leads are connecting the petrol tank to the engine management!!!!
If I had to niggle about a few things they are....... still a tad heavy, awful dial illumination, I have the clonking noise from the front which Triumph tell me is the sliders inside the forks and my rear brake pads lasted 2000 miles, no idea why. Since the pads were changed the back brakes feel very spongy but am waiting till my 6k service to get it checked.
Also the wind buffeting noise from the screen was awful at first, I improved it by cutting down a Cee Baileys making it slightly higher and better looking than a sports screen.
Would I buy another one ??? Yes, definately, unless something else is released or KTM get a little less plastic and put more than a tissue on for a seat.
Buy one, you will love it as every other Tiger owner on this forum does...
A set of pads in 2000 miles??? jesus, my 955 have been across Europe to the Polish border and god knows were else on the way home,a weekend trip to Alp-d-Huez in the French Alps,Southern Spain,Lisbon and home,and a trip across central Europe down to Florence round the Med to Barcelona,and home and with 17,000 on, still has a third of the pads left!!!.
And thats two up carrying a load of gear,but then it is an 01 which might make the difference!!!!
Chris
Perhaps you could tell my dealer that who told me it was "quite common" or it was me resting my foot on the rear brake....Nope !!!!!
Hi PaulJ,
Had that exact same rear brake pad problem on my old 1200 Bandit (+ comments from dealer).
It worked out the rear brake was binding ever so slighty - hardley noticable, in fact i didn't, the mechanic who took it out said they where :?
One brake strip down and rebuild with new seals later and never a problem again.
Get them checked out :wink: