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Title: Girly exhaust on a Steamer?
Post by: theclowncrusty on November 22, 2011, 07:43:23 PM
Hi, as the thread title says, has anyone tried fitting a set of Girly headers and link pipe/can onto a Steamer? Just a thought as another way of getting a 3 into 1 exhaust system.
Crusty :?
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Post by: Mustang on November 22, 2011, 08:26:39 PM
search for "Girly exhaust" in the steamer forum

there were other threads too .............
Title: Girly pipe on a Steamer
Post by: fishnbiker on November 24, 2011, 08:16:21 AM
I went this route some 4 years ago after some close measurements. Needed mods included grinding header clamps from welded to loose fitting (re-align mount studs) adding 1/4" to the LHS header, 1/2" to the middle & 3/4" downpipe length (to align header with muffler though newly fabricated mid pipe while missing the front right corner of the oil pan).

New mid pipe fabricate after new muffler was located exactly where wanted. Made by MIDAS, header & pipes ceramic coated black. New Titanium can from a GSXR off Ebay for $50.

Definitely not for the buy & bolt on mechanic, but, OHHH such a sweet note. Saved about 8kg weight also.

Photo shows the first summer with only heatproof paint.

Finding an aftermarket or other model pipe like Rocinante would be easier. Daytona seems to be the one to look for.
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Post by: theclowncrusty on November 24, 2011, 07:15:48 PM
Hi guys, thanks as usual for the replies, more food for thought for me in the garage over the winter then? LOL
Crusty :lol:
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Post by: theclowncrusty on November 24, 2011, 09:14:51 PM
Hi guys, thanks as usual for the replies, more food for thought for me in the garage over the winter then? LOL Just another thought? Is the 885 injection engine from the first generation "Girly" the same as the Steamer, just with fuel injection added? If so a set of headers off one of those should fit without too much farkleing.
I dont mind modding the sump guard, but dont feel confident enough with my welding skills to start messing with down pipes and such.
Crusty :lol:
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Post by: Mustang on November 25, 2011, 12:06:34 AM
Quote from: "theclowncrusty"................Is the 885 injection engine from the first generation "Girly" the same as the Steamer, just with fuel injection added? If so a set of headers off one of those should fit .............

nope
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Post by: harre on November 25, 2011, 09:59:46 AM
The headers from the t595 Daytona and the t509 Speed Triple bolt right on. Plenty on them on eBay. I have the Speed Triple headers and also a Speed Triple carbon race can from Triumph that I will fit when I get time. However, the silencer is not high mount, so if you into that you will have to find another silencer or extend the link pipe. The headers will fit under the sump guard after some swearing and tool throwing.
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Post by: Nick Calne on November 25, 2011, 02:34:22 PM
Just bought a t595 set and will let everyone know how I get on with fitting them.

As a little aside t595 headers are about £50 on ebay.  Steamer ones about £175 on average. Hmmmmm.....
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Post by: theclowncrusty on November 25, 2011, 03:18:06 PM
Will watch this space with interest.....
Crusty
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Post by: Nick Calne on December 03, 2011, 04:40:30 PM
OK.  I have discovered that t595 ones have a different shape header to block connection than steamer ones.  So no good.

The t595 ones are kind of square shaped with rounded corners, not circular.

No worries for me I'll keep them as spares for my daytona.

Harre, if yours are the same how did you get it to work?
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Post by: harre on December 03, 2011, 11:15:34 PM
nickcalne, I'm sorry I've mislead you. I wish I could make it up to you somehow. I now see that the t595 Daytona headers look different from the t509 ones. I'll post some pictures of my downpipes. On the eBay picture you can see that the header to block connection is similar to the Steamer type. The breaker said that mine was from a Daytona, but Google picture search shows that what I have must have been from a t509 Speed Triple. I tried the fit over two years ago and it worked fine, but I remember that there was a leak presumably due to old exhaust gaskets. I didn't bother about that at the time because I was just testing. I now have a t509 carbon exhaust that I will try on after the winter (I have no garage to work in, that's on second place in my wish list, first place is a job). I also remember that there was little space left under the sump guard but it should work.
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Post by: Nick Calne on December 04, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
Harre, really not a problem .... one of my other bikes is a t955 (same as t595) daytona.  It's now a spare set for that bike.

I'll try and find some t509 ones next....  Thanks for posting the pictures up btw, very helpful.

N
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Post by: Nick Calne on December 04, 2011, 12:05:51 PM
Quote from: "harre"(I have no garage to work in, that's on second place in my wish list, first place is a job).

No job btw? Hope you find something soon.
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Post by: harre on December 05, 2011, 12:49:33 PM
My job will finish in April, so I'll be free for work on my Steamer. Currently  I'm a post doc researcher in Norway Spruce developmental genetics. To get funding for my own research projects I need more publications, so my future in this field depends on how well my experiments go. It's a risky business, but fun. I should get a place where I do both lab work and rebuild the Steamer. "Harres Genetic and Motorcycle rebuilds". Just kidding...
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Post by: Nick Calne on December 05, 2011, 10:27:19 PM
Surely you got enough spruce trees in Scandinavia? :lol:

Hope you find something soon.  I have a few friends who are academics and I'm always shocked how vulnerable / transitory their jobs are.  

OK the exhaust search goes on....  who wants to bet this one fits?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350512574857?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2661#ht_500wt_949
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Post by: Nick Calne on December 05, 2011, 10:28:58 PM
P.S. Motad don't know if it'll fit either - so it's a gamble.
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Post by: rf9rider on December 06, 2011, 12:00:39 AM
It will fit, same engine block as the Steamer, and although as i mentioned to you the link pipe scenario.
Don`t know if the sump guard will fit with those headers on, i forgot to try mine when i had the 3-1 headers fitted to mine.
Thats a good price too, if i hadn`t got the Venoms with the latest Steamer i would have been pressing that "Buy it now" button  :lol:
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Post by: harre on December 06, 2011, 10:42:24 AM
I think it is the same exhaust system that Patrick Rielo used in his Tiger Trail project.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.p ... il+project (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165598&highlight=tiger+trail+project).
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Post by: Rocinante on December 06, 2011, 12:11:46 PM
The Norman Hyde exhaust for 1998 Sprint fits the Steamer, and looks very similar to the Motad (the same maybe?). It bolts right on and interferes with nothing. Here´s a link:
https://normanhyde.co.uk/hinckley-triumph/trident-750-900-sprint-trophy-900-stainless-race-3into1-system.html

I have this, and have brutally bent it upwards behind the rider foot peg. I have removed the passenger pegs, but my guess is it will not be in the way.

Ideally you should get a bend made to get silencer further back, especially if riding with passengers. This is on my to do list.

Here´s an image(bike rebuilt with KTM tail, so I would definitely consider the added bend to put it in place where the original silencer sits).:
(http://www.dagjen.no/mc/20100205_Rocinante21_00002.jpg)
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Post by: Nick Calne on December 06, 2011, 02:32:55 PM
Thanks Guys.

Dag the Norman Hyde one is probably the safest bet, but I have been tempted with the possibility of getting the motad ones for nearly 180 quid less... (same old nickcalne story, tight with money to the very last!)

A bid has been placed....If I don't win I'll give up and buy the NH ones.
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 06, 2011, 05:47:27 PM
Cut down spruce trees, pulp to make paper, write publications, get funding printed on paper, cut down spruce trees, pulp to make paper, write publications .....

Sounds perfect to me, am I missing something  :icon_scratch
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Post by: harre on December 06, 2011, 06:47:04 PM
QuoteCut down spruce trees, pulp to make paper, write publications, get funding printed on paper, cut down spruce trees, pulp to make paper, write publications .....
You only forgot this tiny bit: pulp to make paper, generate new data from expensive experiments, write publications...
I agree that we have enough trees in Sweden already. I'm actually a moss guy, that is an interesting species! Unfortunately there is little economic potential in mosses...
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on December 06, 2011, 09:34:33 PM
Quote from: "harre"
Quote.....Unfortunately there is little economic potential in mosses...

Don't they have medicinal properties like seaweeds?  Or did I just make that up..... :roll:
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 06, 2011, 11:55:03 PM
Knew I had missed something  :roll:

You must be a rolling stone then :wink:  8)
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Post by: rf9rider on December 11, 2011, 01:49:51 AM
Quote from: "nickcalne"Thanks Guys.

Dag the Norman Hyde one is probably the safest bet, but I have been tempted with the possibility of getting the motad ones for nearly 180 quid less... (same old nickcalne story, tight with money to the very last!)

A bid has been placed....If I don't win I'll give up and buy the NH ones.

You won them then?
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Post by: Nick Calne on December 11, 2011, 04:05:38 PM
Yup. Fingers crossed they fit....

I'll post up some pics when they arrive....
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