Since inadvertantly re powering my alarm, it is now starting to 'irritate' me somewhat!...My battery is not the strongest and I have the feeling it is going to need replacement.
If I pull the fuse the alarm goes off..SO..what I want to know is how long does it take for the battery to run down in the alarm?....
OR can I remove the battery or is it a sealed unit ...Datatool System S4
I am sure I have seen the time somewhere on here but cant find it now!
You can remove the internal battery,
you will need if i remember correctly a tiny security torx bit to do it
though.
Thanks Chairhead...much appreciated..I will have a look in the morning.
My alarm ended up in a bucket after being hit with a big hammer, f.... things, get rid of the b......d before it strands you, If its the OE factory alarm its quite easy.
TimBox...it wasnt working when I got the bike...till I replaced a blown fuse.....I should have left well alone, but curiousity got the better of me!..
If I pull the fuse now the bloody thing goes mad!..hence wanting to put it back to the way it was when I got it......
Quote from: "Reubs"TimBox...it wasnt working when I got the bike...till I replaced a blown fuse.....I should have left well alone, but curiousity got the better of me!..
If I pull the fuse now the bloody thing goes mad!..hence wanting to put it back to the way it was when I got it......
Ah, Ok, so is it not a factory alarm?
TimBox...I cant honestly tell you if it was a factory OE fitted alarm....the alarm wasnt working when I bought it,and I just accepted it,and wasnt too much bothered.Its only when I put a new fuse in the thing came alive!..and is now getting on my nerves a tad!
.It has loads of black wires into the unit and loads of black ones out!...and is a very neat install.
Anyway I was going to have a look at the unit and see if I can remove the battery today but other more important things have occurred!
Its gonna have to wait till the weekend now!
The factory fitted alarm is a plug in device under the small plastic piece
below the rack,
the Datatool Sc4 is a hardwire fit only if i remember correctly,and could
be put anywhere on the bike
what are you trying to do exactly?
If its just the battery your worried about buy a battery charger/tender.
Quote from: "NKL"If its just the battery your worried about buy a battery charger/tender.
To recap, and this just what I think is going on, the PO removed the alarm fuse which silenced it once the alarm internal battery ran down. The new owner replaced the fuse which activated the alarm and charged the internal battery. He now wants to disable tha alarm by removing the internal battery. If so, the easiest soiution (if its a factory plug in alarm) is search for my post on removing the alarm which has additional input from Tim.
I read it as he is worried about the alarm running his bike battery down, I may be wrong.
Quote from: "Reubs"If I pull the fuse the alarm goes off..SO..what I want to know is how long does it take for the battery to run down in the alarm?....
OR can I remove the battery or is it a sealed unit ..
i was going on this but from his first sentence I see where you are coming from.
Many thanks for your replies it is much appreciated.
I seem to have made myself misunderstood, and apologise for that, and not replying sooner.
SO...to recap:..The alarm was installed on the bike when I got her and was not working.which was nice :D
It must be an addition as it is not plugged into a socket it is hard wired into the bikes loom.
I found a blown fuse and replaced it...... :( and it powered up the alarm!
I have put up with the bloody thing going off for no apparent reason,and draining my battery, BUT now want it back to the state it was in when I got the bike.
I did contact Datatool and they wern't interested, they just wanted me to go to a dealer...
IF I remove the inline fuse the alarm goes off.
Questions...
How long does the alarm internal battery last if i just leave the fuse out and the alarm going off on its own? ( I will smother the alarm with loads of rags first to deaden the sound!)
Can I remove the internal battery from the alarm system?...as long as the alarm is switched off when I remove it (assuming I can)..will the immobiliser be activated?..Thanks to Timbox for the answer to that one.
I really have learned NOT to put a new fuse into a fuse holder BEFORE looking to see where the line goes to!....and it looks like I am going to have to get a new battery as it wont charge up to a level where it will start the engine......
Reubs,
was the bike running without the fuse in when you picked it up from the
PO
is the bike running now?
the reason i ask is if the inline fuse is removed from the alarm the alarm
will ativate,the same will happen if your bikes battery is Fubar(how old is
the bike battery),this might
explain the alarm going off for no apparent reason,the alarm detects the
drop in voltage as an attack and immobilises the bike.
Buy a C=Tek 800 they are the best chargers I have ever owned, I have bought both good and crap over the years, they have recovered batteries I would previously have condemned to scrap.
Chairhead...
The bike was running fine with a blown fuse in the line, and was like it when I bought the bike...the PO didnt mention anything about it and I must admit I didnt ask!
I can only assume that when the fuse blew the internal alarm battery just used up all its power and died...(till the day I put a new fuse in!)
which is why I wondered how long it would take the alarm's battery to die..OR if I could remove it.
And Yes the bike is running...when there is enough power in the battery to start it!
Its looking like a new battery at the moment..best part of £50....
Quote from: "Reubs"Its looking like a new battery at the moment..best part of £50....
Hey Reubs !! check this out.............
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YUASA ... 4aa1f49c88 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YUASA-YTX14-BS-MOTORBIKE-JETSKI-QUAD-BATTERY-/320544742536?pt=UK_CartsParts_Vehicles_ATVQuad_Trike_Parts_Accessories_SM&hash=item4aa1f49c88)
best check the No's tho :roll: as that was off the top of me head :lol:
KK
ps i just checked how much my battery was and it was dearer than that :roll: :oops:
Thanks KK for the link...
I pulled the fuse and an still waiting for its internal battery to die...the alarm is smothered in overalls and coats and so the alarm shouts very quietly to itself!....
I havent found a wiring diagram on the www for the S4 so I can take it out myself so am going to wait and will see if the alarms battery dies in a couple of days....If the bike is immobilised its gonna bhave to be a visit to the nearest Datatool fitter...
Then a new battery for its crimbo pressie....and a sheepskin seat cover if its lucky!
Thanks for the advice chaps...
Well after a week of the alarm swathed in rags and the thing being constantly set off. I thought it had died....
But alas it hasnt and although yesterday it didnt go off at all and the bike started like a good un...today all that happened was when I turned on the ignition the bloody thing went off....so it lives!...
Anyway next is to take out the black box with the connectors in, seperate them and make good the circuits, well thats the plan anyway. I did find an install manual for it on the net too so will be digesting that before I set to work on the wiring......
You do know that if you take the top off you could just snip the wire to the sounder........
if its like the one I did for a friend it's cast in resin and non- accessible
Yep BB....so its gonna come out!!
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"if its like the one I did for a friend it's cast in resin and non- accessible
The top on mine is held on with "security" screws. Complete waste of time given you can get the keys anywhere for a couple of quid.