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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: BigDan on January 17, 2012, 02:54:30 AM

Title: Which Scottoiler?
Post by: BigDan on January 17, 2012, 02:54:30 AM
Hi all, looking to invest in a scottoiler as I always forget to lube my chain and it ends up doing 800 miles without being lubed :/ I usually check the tension, but always forget to lube it up (giggity)

So does anyone here know much about them? Not sure to go electric or not e.t.c.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 17, 2012, 09:08:44 AM
Most common is the 'touring' kit which fits behind your rear numberplate. Long time between fill-ups.

Don't waste money on the twin nib adapter, build your own.   I'll show how later when I have a bit more time.

Maybe this should be in the general bikes forum as it's not Girl specific?
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 17, 2012, 09:09:00 AM
Most common is the 'touring' kit which fits behind your rear numberplate. Long time between fill-ups.

Don't waste money on the twin nib adapter, build your own.   I'll show how later when I have a bit more time.

Maybe this should be in the general bikes forum as it's not Girl specific?
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 17, 2012, 09:32:02 AM
I quite fancy giving the electric one a try asI find the vac one losses it's prime if I don't ride the bike for a while, OK   I know there's a simple solution to that :roll:

Interested in the diy twin nib, especially if it helps prevent the nibs falling out.

Those tablets are giving you a bit of a stutter Bob  :wink:
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Post by: daveb on January 17, 2012, 01:13:59 PM
I got the V-system with a touring res. I then fitted LED lights as I thought the number plate would be too far back, apparently it is ok, but i guess it depends on the MOT tester.


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/DaveBelton/bike%20stuff/IMG_2202.jpg)

led's fitted
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/DaveBelton/bike%20stuff/IMG_2204.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/DaveBelton/bike%20stuff/IMG_2206.jpg)
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Post by: HockleyBoy on January 17, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
I have the touring scottoiler on mine, seems to work well (chains last) but like all chain oilers makes a bit of a mess. Haven't put any additional lights on and havent had a problem at any MOT.
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Post by: daveb on January 17, 2012, 03:43:15 PM
Quote from: "HockleyBoy"I have the touring scottoiler on mine, seems to work well (chains last) but like all chain oilers makes a bit of a mess. Haven't put any additional lights on and havent had a problem at any MOT.

yep they told me the same thing after i fitted the lights.
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Post by: HockleyBoy on January 17, 2012, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: "daveb"
Quote from: "HockleyBoy"I have the touring scottoiler on mine, seems to work well (chains last) but like all chain oilers makes a bit of a mess. Haven't put any additional lights on and havent had a problem at any MOT.

yep they told me the same thing after i fitted the lights.

Its always after you do the work you find out!
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Post by: BigDan on January 17, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
Cheers for the replies guys, although more specifically I was looking to know whether I should get the V-system (vacuumed controlled) and the E-system (electric).

If my Tiger doesn't have carbs, can I still have a V-system?
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Post by: Mustang on January 17, 2012, 08:02:09 PM
yes vaccuum will work on efi also
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Post by: daveb on January 17, 2012, 08:31:21 PM
i memory servs me correct you need to order the tiger adaptor from scottoiler.

I will have a check

ps the V-system works well on my 955i

think this is it

http://www.scottoiler.com/uk/Spares-Ada ... e.tpl.html (http://www.scottoiler.com/uk/Spares-Adaptors/Tee-Connector-with-Viton-Triumph-8mm/flypage.tpl.html)

Scottoiler triumph t-piece, almost centre of image
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/DaveBelton/bike%20stuff/IMG_2583-Copy.jpg)
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Post by: Timbox2 on January 17, 2012, 09:06:31 PM
Quote from: "BigDan"Cheers for the replies guys, although more specifically I was looking to know whether I should get the V-system (vacuumed controlled) and the E-system (electric).

If my Tiger doesn't have carbs, can I still have a V-system?

Yes, but be careful, scottoiler installs have a history of causing issues on Tigers, from dodgy running to stuck open throttles, not saying you shouldnt install, but be very methodic and check everything twice before putting the airbox and tank back on.
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Post by: BigDan on January 17, 2012, 09:34:56 PM
Ooh ekk :/ Thats the last thing I need. Might consider the eSystem then!

Cheers for the heads up.
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Post by: daveb on January 17, 2012, 09:49:46 PM
if you look at my photo you can see I cable tied it to an electrical harness, no problems think its been on the bike for almost 2 yrs now
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Post by: HockleyBoy on January 18, 2012, 09:30:53 AM
Mines the V system and has been on my 05 since new with no problems.
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Post by: Spud on January 18, 2012, 09:42:33 AM
06 Tiger Scott oiler from new never had a problem, infact I always put a oiler on every bike I own.  I turn mine up until it's oiling the back wheel. I used to time it at 2 drops a minute then I grew up  :shock:  cheers Spud  :wink:
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 18, 2012, 11:27:28 AM
The stuck throttle was mine, nearly killed me! Read here

http://tigertriple.com/forum/viewtopic. ... t=throttle (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4409&highlight=throttle)
Title: Chain Oiler
Post by: chinchliffe on January 18, 2012, 03:54:57 PM
I use one of these, http www.tutorochainoiler.com (http://www.tutorochainoiler.com) ,and for about £20 it is superb.
Title: Re: Chain Oiler
Post by: MarkShelley on January 18, 2012, 04:46:01 PM
Quote from: "chinchliffe"I use one of these, http www.tutorochainoiler.com (http://www.tutorochainoiler.com) ,and for about £20 it is superb.

I also owned a tutoro for a very short while. The components are really cheap plastic and I think even £20 is too much, but more importantly you have to manually turn the thing on and off with a poxy little tap. Who is going to bother with that? It is easier to lube your chain once a week.
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Post by: jammed_stick on January 21, 2012, 01:46:09 PM
I use Prooiler. http://www.pro-oiler.net/ (http://www.pro-oiler.net/)
Really advanced microprocessor controlled oiler.
Works really nice in all wheather conditions.
Read the info and you will understand why it's superior compared to other competitors... and NO I do not have shares in Prooiler, just a satisfied guy ... ;)

Chain adjusted only twice since it was replaced on 28000 km !
Sprockets looks almost like new...
First chain was worn out at the same distance (When I used chain grease).

A couple of days before my trip to North Cape, I had to change rear tire becuase it was worn out.
Unfortenately I was a bit careless when remowing rear wheel which damaged the nozzle. Didn't have time to get spare parts so I had to buy some chain spray instead.
I used the chain spray twice every day. When I came home I noticed the chain had slacked a lot, I would say much more on 5700 km than on 28 000 km with the oiler.
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Post by: aesdj on January 21, 2012, 04:58:38 PM
I wouldn't touch a Scot after one knackered one of my cyclinders on my CB250 Superdream. The pipe split and caused that one to run weak and because you carn't see it you don't know untill you take the tank off once a year to do the plugs.Thats my theroy anyway.Ive got one of these and its been great http://www.pdoiler.co.uk/ (http://www.pdoiler.co.uk/) Its the same as the Motrax Lubetronic Chain Oiler but with that if you want the flow adjuster its £20 more which tuck this up to £90. If my memory serves me right I asked why the 2 oilers looked the same and he said because he designed the Motax version but don't quote me just ask him yourself if you want to check.
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Post by: BigDan on February 15, 2012, 07:14:33 PM
Can anyone with a scottoiler on a Girly please post pics of where you mounted and how you routed the main delivery cable?

I've tied the unit to the water hose on mine, but I'm trying to work the best way to get it onto my swingarm without it going anywhere near the chain.

I am open to putting the unti elsewhere.

Cheeers guys
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 15, 2012, 10:25:11 PM
Did you get a standard or a touring kit Dan?

I have the delivery tube tie-wrapped to the left subframe rail down to the swing arm. On the swing arm I made up an aluminium tube using mini pipe bender. It delivers from the pivot, along the SA to the home-made twin-nib oiler.  Ally tube came from an aero model shop.

http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,10778 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,10778)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/BixxerBob/IMAG0127.jpg)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/BixxerBob/IMAG0128.jpg)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/BixxerBob/IMAG0130.jpg)
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Post by: BigDan on February 15, 2012, 11:39:32 PM
I got standard, planning on having a loobtube or similar in the future :)

Cheers for the pics, i'll nip to a model shop tomorrow :) Do you remember what size you used?
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 16, 2012, 02:04:53 PM
I think it was  6mm but not sure. I took a small piece of the delivery tube with me a tried it for fit
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Post by: BigDan on February 28, 2012, 05:28:53 PM
I went to a few model shops and none stocked it, thought about going to B&Q but not too sure about their high prices! For now I've stolen a little plastic Y connector from my chain cleaner (kettenmax) and cut a wire hanger up and used bits of it taped to some normal scottoiler tubing to make it sturdy xD A right old bodge job, but it actually looks ok.

Anyway! Reason for post is I got a bit worried about taking the tank and airbox off when I saw a shit load of bolts e.t.c. on the tank and light was getting thin, so I'm setting myself a whole day on saturday to take off tank and airbox, connect scottoiler to engine, and reassemble.

Any tips for the tank/airbox? Anything I should be looking out for? The connections look complicated.

Cheers guys!
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 28, 2012, 10:26:28 PM
It's straight forward, take photo sas you go and make notes, then you'll not forget anything when you re-assemble.

Re the tube, pick model shops that sell model aircraft ( the radio controlled type) they nearly all stock it. failing that, PMme and let me know what you need and I'll source some for you.
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Post by: Tigertriple on February 28, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
Quote from: "BigDan"I went to a few model shops and none stocked it, thought about going to B&Q but not too sure about their high prices! For now I've stolen a little plastic Y connector from my chain cleaner (kettenmax) and cut a wire hanger up and used bits of it taped to some normal scottoiler tubing to make it sturdy xD A right old bodge job, but it actually looks ok.

Anyway! Reason for post is I got a bit worried about taking the tank and airbox off when I saw a shit load of bolts e.t.c. on the tank and light was getting thin, so I'm setting myself a whole day on saturday to take off tank and airbox, connect scottoiler to engine, and reassemble.

Any tips for the tank/airbox? Anything I should be looking out for? The connections look complicated.

Cheers guys!


Taking the tank off is not as bad as you might think. Just allow yourself plenty of time that way it won't stress you out. I have had my tank off quite a few times now and it only takes  about 10 - 15 mins. Make sure the tank is close to empty as its a heavy bastard to lift even at half full.

While you've got the tank off its worth changing the plugs and cleaning or renewing the air filter. Also worth doing a throttle balance if you can get a loan of or buy a Morgan Carbtune. They cost about £60.00.

Check the vacuum hoses and it's well worth replacing them with new hose. I did mine last year and I did put a post on here with pics. I didn't use Triumph hoses. I bought a length of vacum hose on fleabay and have had no Problems with it. It cost only a couple of quid.

http://tigertriple.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ght=#72129 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/msg,72129&highlight=#72129)

One last thing. When you put the tank back on you'll get the engine management light coming on. Don't worry about it as it will reset after 3 warm ups of the engine. I hope this info helps.
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Post by: BigDan on February 29, 2012, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: "Tigertriple"One last thing. When you put the tank back on you'll get the engine management light coming on. Don't worry about it as it will reset after 3 warm ups of the engine. I hope this info helps.


I'm so glad you posted that, or I would have been freaking out lol xD

Cheers guys, I'm gonna do it this Saturday so I've got tonnes of time.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 29, 2012, 01:47:01 PM
Quote from: "BigDan"..... so I've got tonnes of time.

Metric ones at that! :lol:
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Post by: BigDan on February 29, 2012, 05:17:21 PM
Yeah lol, I was helping a van driver back out the other say and he said "how far have I got" and I replied "about a metre".

He said I must be young cos I said metre not a few feet. I'm just a young 21!
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 29, 2012, 09:01:42 PM
I've got underpants older than you... :lol:
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on March 01, 2012, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"I've got underpants older than you... :lol:

Enough about your underpants Spongey  :wink:
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Post by: BigDan on March 03, 2012, 10:34:50 PM
Thanks everyone for your help and advice, got it done and working today. Made a lot easier by previous owner!! Not a single bolt stuck, it has a pretty much brand new k&n filter, the t piece was already installed so last owner must have had a scottoiler fitted but took it with him. All cables nicely routed e.t.c...

All done and running now, tank off was not actually bad at all... My first plastic tank - so light!!

Cheers again
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