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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: 97steamer on January 22, 2012, 12:22:41 PM

Title: dipstick
Post by: 97steamer on January 22, 2012, 12:22:41 PM
Did an oil and filter change yesterday. Put 3.5 litres of new oil in (spec says 4 litres) then checked the dipstick. Level was wayyyyyy over the maximum mark but I'm still half a litre short of what the manual says.

My questions are, 1) is the dipstick the wrong one? or 2) Is the Haynes manual wrong?
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Post by: R0B on January 22, 2012, 01:11:40 PM
did you run the bike?...........oil has to get round the engine including the filter

rob
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Post by: rf9rider on January 22, 2012, 01:16:30 PM
When you changed the filter, did you undo the drain screw or just take the filter off?
If you didn`t remove the drain screw, perhaps you didn`t drain all the old oil?
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Post by: 97steamer on January 22, 2012, 11:11:22 PM
Hi guys, I drained the oil via the drain screw and put in a new filter with o rings by the book. I also ran the engine for about five minutes before and after the oil change.

Having looked in the owners manual, the dipstick in the picture has an upper and lower mark that appear to be much further apart than the ones on my dipstick. I'm still confused :-)
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Post by: Colonel Nikolai on January 22, 2012, 11:38:33 PM
The steamer has two oil drain plugs (unless this is only true of the Trident / Sprint of the same vintage. I thought this was also true on the steamer, but now I'm not sure and the bike is in storage).

One is the "real" drain plug and one is intended for an oil cooler accessory, and won't entirely drain all the oil. Can someone confirm this?
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Post by: D-Fuzz on January 23, 2012, 12:14:41 AM
Is it sitting on the side stand or a centre stand when you are checking the oil?  Can you post a photo of the dipstick?
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Post by: Mustang on January 23, 2012, 12:37:39 AM
just put 4 liters in and don't worry about it......................cap needs to be left unscrewed to check level
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Post by: 97steamer on January 23, 2012, 12:59:01 AM
its on the centre stand. I'll post a pic of the dipstick tomorrow
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Post by: BruKen on January 23, 2012, 01:19:29 PM
When I did my engine rebuild I had to put in nearly 4.5 litre till it measured up to the dipstick and the oil pressure light would go out. Go figure, I wonder if the dipstick is made of the same nylon as the side panels :lol:
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Post by: 97steamer on January 25, 2012, 07:08:29 PM
I put 40 miles on the bike yesterday on my regular commute and it ran like a dog. No pull, loads more engine noise and it was pushing out white smoke, presumably due to the oil forcing its way past the piston rings.

Anyway, I drained out a litre and a bit which brought the level back to the top of the dipstick and the bike is back to normal. If my math is right then I've got around 2.5 litres in there. Go figure?
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Post by: R0B on January 25, 2012, 08:37:58 PM
If you only have 2.5 litres in there I would really want to know why, and soon.........I can only think you didn't drain it properly.

rob
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Post by: Mustang on January 25, 2012, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: "R0B"If you only have 2.5 litres in there I would really want to know why, and soon.........I can only think you didn't drain it properly.

rob
:iagree
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Post by: 97steamer on January 26, 2012, 06:35:50 PM
Okay. I know it sounds daft but assuming I didn't drain it right, where did I go wrong? The bike was on the centrestand on level ground, I warmed her up and removed the drain bolt and the dipstick. I then removed the filter assembly and left it for ten minutes minimum. Have I missed anything?

I ran the bike into work again today and it was smooth as silk, no oil warning or anything so I reckon there's enough oil in there but the maths just doesn't add up. I'm fecken bedongled!   :shock:
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Post by: MIMbox on January 26, 2012, 08:35:26 PM
Just looking at my OEM service manual, it says 4litres, including filter, and it clearly states oil to be measured with dipstick SCREWED IN, not resting on top.
See Note
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Post by: rf9rider on January 26, 2012, 09:30:45 PM
Haynes says dipstick screwed in too i think.

How did you measure the amount of oil you put in?

Measuring jug? Marks on the oil bottle?
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Post by: 97steamer on January 26, 2012, 11:25:55 PM
Thats the thing. In order to be accurate I used one of the wife's measuring jugs so I'm pretty sure about the quantities involved. I've got another gallon of oil in the garage so I think I'll do it again at the weekend. It won't exactly hurt will it.
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Post by: rf9rider on January 27, 2012, 12:32:05 AM
When you drain the oil again, measure how much comes out.
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