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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: rybes on January 22, 2012, 02:15:11 PM

Title: makin a wiring loom
Post by: rybes on January 22, 2012, 02:15:11 PM
as it was a sunny day i decideed id pull the sheet of me black kwak and see what i could do with the wirin loom. been 2 years and i aint seen it so instead of tryin to sort out what ive got im thinkin of makin me own loom. howd i go about knowin what thickness cable i need for what circuit. also, how long do i buy cable 3 meters sound bout right ?
then when ive worked that out wheres a nice cheap place to buy wire and loom buildin goodies ?


cheers all  :D
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Post by: Timbox2 on January 22, 2012, 04:37:17 PM
These are the folks Ive used before, good service and pretty cheap

http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/ (http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/)
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 22, 2012, 06:54:04 PM
:iagree  helpful chaps.
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Post by: iansoady on January 23, 2012, 02:27:31 PM
Or these people (http://www.autosparks.co.uk/index.php?cPath=88&oscsid=jmnqcjg4a2sqksoo3qcktbjkf0) who seem to have a good range and have been recommended to me by others. As well as cable they have a good selection of connectors which can be hard to find.

Wiring is easy if you're methodical and careful. You can take the opportunity to go up a size which gives the electrons an easier time of it. Don't cut the cable till you're absolutely sure it's long enough.....

I always solder my terminlas but I know this is frowned on these days. Never caused me a problem in 40 years or so though.
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Post by: NeilD on January 23, 2012, 04:12:19 PM
and this are worth a try for  OEM type connectors....

http://www.kojaycat.com/Motorcycle%20connector.htm (http://www.kojaycat.com/Motorcycle%20connector.htm)
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 23, 2012, 04:13:28 PM
Why is soldering a problem, I've always done it :icon_scratch
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Post by: rybes on January 23, 2012, 05:21:49 PM
cheers for all ya replies, links and helpful ideas. i cut the loom up in the end leavin the plugs with enough long straight wire as i could. now its just a case of joinin em all back up.
im with you sin. i thought solder was the only way to go. ian, whys it frowned upon ?
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Post by: iansoady on January 24, 2012, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger"Why is soldering a problem, I've always done it :icon_scratch

The conventional "wisdom" is that soldering can cause wires to become brittle and that crimping gives a better joint. This may well be true if you have professional grade equipment but I would doubt it for normal DIY kit.

Oh, and I'm not talking about those horrible little crimp terminals you get in blister packs.
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on January 24, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
If I have run short of a size, I will strip the sleeve off and still solder them and I think I'll keep on doing it.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 24, 2012, 11:39:34 PM
+1  solder and heat shrink :D
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Post by: BruKen on January 27, 2012, 04:09:24 PM
Quote from: "iansoady"
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger"Why is soldering a problem, I've always done it :icon_scratch

The conventional "wisdom" is that soldering can cause wires to become brittle and that crimping gives a better joint. This may well be true if you have professional grade equipment but I would doubt it for normal DIY kit.

Oh, and I'm not talking about those horrible little crimp terminals you get in blister packs.

just to back you up: (skip to page 4 unless yer an OCD eccentric Brit steamer "Fred in his shed" type)

http://www.newark.com/pdfs/techarticles/tyco/ET.pdf (http://www.newark.com/pdfs/techarticles/tyco/ET.pdf)

However soldering a plug designed for crimping is not an ideal solution either. Then you have block plugs, but that could become a right P.I.T.A
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