Hey guy's, some of you experienced tiger riders might think this is a really dumb question, but I have been thinking about it so much I have to ask.
Are 955 tigers more likely to slide out (arse end first) on tarmac (not shingle) than any other type of bike ?
Since purchasing mine I have to honestly say I haven't riden it as hard as I have my other bikes because 1. someone said to me it is likely to slide with that kind of HP and arse end and 2. I havent got my crash bars on yet, and my rubber is getting low and 3. everyone on this forum keeps saying 'put your bars on' and I am not sure if they are saying this because it is more likely to happen than normal.
It feels to me like I should be able to get it right over and gun it as I have riden other big trailies and always liked that about them.
What do you think? Am I just being a whimp or what? Do you think this is valid? Tell me how you treat your tiger???? Deano
I've got 31,000 on mine and ride the pavement fairly aggressively, never have I had the back end slide on me. I have "dropped" the bike twice, once in the garage and once in a low speed maneuver (under 5 mph). Because the bike fairly top heavy, if she decides she wants to go to sleep, there is not much that is going to stop her....hence the need for the bars.
the ass end is very well planted ................
tiggers love to be gassed hard coming out of a turn and it's even more fun on gravel
like yukon says they are friggin topheavy and when they start to fall you aint gonna stop it . thats why those who know say to put the crash bars on .
If anything I reckon your mates got the wrong end of the bike, Front end wash outs are probably more likely on a bike like the Tiger, on mine with stock suspension gunning it out of bends had the back squatting like a Sumo wrestler and the front running wide, the Wilbers upgrade sorted that. Reckon I had the back slide twice on me, both occasions down to cold tyres/operator error. But yes, get some bars and from personal experience Touratech do the job perfectly.
Because they're top heavy you'll find they like to stay up more when they are up (more stable) but if they start to fall, you won't stop them as easily. All the early hinckley triumphs have this design. I've never sat on a Daytona from that era but you'd think it'd be the least top heavy. My 96 Sprint is almost as top heavy as my 96 Tiger. But they will both be running for a long time.
Had a slide once but that was down to shit on the roads and not the bike. I have seen someone grind his pegs on a Tiger he did not have a problem with the arse end cheers Spud :wink:
I push mine on tarmac and never had a slide (in the dry anyway) and I can't remember who it was (Blacktiger's mate?) at the 2010 Tiger meet went round the outside of me on the Cat and Fiddle run but he was scraping stuff and still not sliding. As everyone else says, bars are for sleeping tigers although Chris Canning chucked his down the road at 40 mph with little damage thanks to Touratech :D
I am fairly new to the Tiger ownership fraternity. However, I was travelling back from Coleraine to Derry and there are a series of round-abouts on the way in. I took one too fast and was thinking "I'm f**ked"....but the Girly just leaned gracefully into the turn and never lost even an iota of grip, the rear just planted and gripped the tarmac beautifully. I've done the same thing on BMW (R80/7), Yamaha XT's etc and those two were definitely tougher to handle (in my opinion) than the Tiger!
Put the back end out only once at a set of lights through cack handed application of the rear brake and ancient Metzler, let it go, looked and put the power back on and she came straight back up and kept going, all be it through a red light :oops: awesome.
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger"Put the back end out only once at a set of lights through cack handed application of the rear brake and ancient Metzler, let it go, looked and put the power back on and she came straight back up and kept going, all be it through a red light :oops: awesome.
Note to self !! never follow Sin_Tiger :shock: :ImaPoser :ImaPoser
KK
ps there's no chicken strip on me Bridgestone rear :wink:
Quote from: MoorsoI am fairly new to the Tiger ownership fraternity. However, I was travelling back from Coleraine to Derry and there are a series of round-abouts on the way in. I took one too fast and was thinking "I'm f**ked"....but the Girly just leaned gracefully into the turn and never lost even an iota of grip, the rear just planted and gripped the tarmac beautifully. I've done the same thing on BMW (R80/7), Yamaha XT's etc and those two were definitely tougher to handle (in my opinion) than the Tiger![/quote
Firstly, thanks everyone who has replied to me on this subject. Time to ride this girl like she was meant to be, just waiting on the Touratech bars to arrive from Australia, maybe another wek or two.
Hey Moorso, my original experience was on XT's and I was well impressed at how far over (ground clearance) they would go. So if you are saying the tiger is even better, then I thankyou greatly. Just what I wanted to hear. Next trick is getting the right rubber on the rear.
Deano I am more than happy to come out and try out your "Tigger" just to make sure you will be nice and safe I may have to do a figure of 8 around the north and south island though :roll: cheers spud :wink:
I got me knee down on my Tiger
but unfortunately I followed with my elbow shoulder and head :oops:
On the race track and it started to rain and I didn't slow down :lol:
Hey NZDeano
Yeah, I would stand by that view of the Tiger's. I've ridden my (now sold) Yamah Tenere and my mates 2004 XT and the Tiger definitely handles better than both of them (by a country mile!). I also did a run on very twisty stuff with quick gradient changes and the Tiger handled better on that too. My mate who bought his Honda Africa Twin at the same time as i bought the Tiger (off the same bloke) has ridden my Tiger as well....this is a guy who crossed Europe several times on BM 1150GS, BM R80 etc etc and he said the Tiger was right up there as one of the best handling bikes he's ever been on!
I bought my 2004 Tiger used with old Tourance rubber. It would easily grind the pegs with confidence and judicius throttle, loss of adhesion gradual and nothing sudden. Now with road rubber (Metzler Roadtec Z6) there is increased confidence and predictability. Nothing wrong with the old tires, but it's even better with road tires.
That was me Bixxer Bob.
My 2006 model handled as well as most road bikes with road type tyres on it, no chicken strip left on the tyres and never had any slides in the dry, not many in the wet come to think of it. I also found it handled well loaded up as well.
I knew someone would own up eventually :lol:
Awesome guy's. Thanks heaps for the reply's. Gonna go out and ride the arse of this thing. : :( :D :lol:
Quote from: "Spud"Deano I am more than happy to come out and try out your "Tigger" just to make sure you will be nice and safe I may have to do a figure of 8 around the north and south island though :roll: cheers spud :wink:
Awwww spud - it's so good to know that there are still such kind souls left in the world who are considering of my safety. I dont think I could ask such a sacrifice of you though, it would be a shit of a job. Maybe I should do that instead and save you the hassle. :lol:
Quote from: "KuzzinKenny"Note to self !! never follow Sin_Tiger :shock: :ImaPoser :ImaPoser
KK
That probably explains why I am usually at the back of a group :lol:
Timbox has the right of this one, front end is more likely to let go, particularly on the gravel.
On Triple Tragic's and my run down to the island last weekend we did have a few issues with the rear spinning up on wet bitumen, but that was with Heidi K60s on.
The only time I've ever spun rear tourances, apart from a track day at Hidden valley, was on the Western side of Mt Glorius in QLD, a road renouned for leaf litter and moss.
Enjoy your Tigger mate, they grip beautifully leaned all the way over. The only thing that slows them down relitive to a full on sports bike is the rocking horse and weight transfer issues of having all that weight swinging around on long travel suspension.
I can't believe how much more planted the front end is in gravel with a more dirt worthy tire on, the bike was a pleasure to ride on the 400 odd miles of gravel roads and trails last weekend.
Quote from: "Yukon"I've got 31,000 on mine and ride the pavement fairly aggressively, never have I had the back end slide on me. I have "dropped" the bike twice, once in the garage and once in a low speed maneuver (under 5 mph). Because the bike fairly top heavy, if she decides she wants to go to sleep, there is not much that is going to stop her....hence the need for the bars.
Where to get a set of crash bars? 1996 Tiger 900 Steamer
Thanks
Lots of miles on mine, (this is my 3rd Triumph) and all 3 where dead on in twisties. Tiger as much as the Sprint and almost as good as the Speed3.
I have a heavy wrist (especially out of the turns) and always spot on, no slip.
I live in a large community with over 50 miles of very twistie hill laden roads, diminishing radius turns off camber turns blind hairpins (I LOVE this hood!!!) and have not had a single problem with the Tigger loosing grip at all, wet or dry.
Now....that said bad tires can cause any bike to loose grip ....obvious, but felt I should state the obvious....
Yeah, of all the bikes i've rode so far, the Tiger actually has the best grip when powering on out of corners.
Maybe its just the extra weight and not as much power... for example I rode an MV Augusta 1078 brutale, that would just try and kill you in every corner.
The Tiger is very confidence inspiring.