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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: rybes on March 31, 2012, 12:32:26 PM

Title: carb help.
Post by: rybes on March 31, 2012, 12:32:26 PM
hello all. ive a request. is there anyone out there within a reasonable distance who knows more about carbs than i do thatd help me strip my carbs n check em ? i can take em apart clean and re assemble but i can never tell if anythins wrong inside as ive never really had much to do with carbs.
i got a funy feelin summinks wrong as i seem to have lost mpgs. i changed the o rings but that never really fixed it even tho the old ones were split. im runnin out of ideas now as to what could be wrong as i cant see anythin obvious.
at the mo im in england not denmark. any help any one could give would be great. thanks :D
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Post by: BruKen on March 31, 2012, 09:30:54 PM
Before I say bloody anything I'm going to point out I'm talking about mikuni. Check your emulsion tubes haven't worn oval. I have two bikes with mikuni's on. The gsxr ones are diabolical and she's a thirsty pig. This is a common issue and maintenance item on mikuni's.24 quid a tube though the robbing bastards.
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Post by: rf9rider on March 31, 2012, 10:30:42 PM
Is it just the MPG that`s gone down,, or any other problems?
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Post by: rybes on April 01, 2012, 11:42:24 AM
mpgs dropped and i got a misfire at 7000. would like to invest in rollin road time í gotta find a job first tho  :roll:
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Post by: PompeyLad on April 01, 2012, 07:23:59 PM
Where in Denmark are you living. I am up/over in Örebro in Sweden. Or do you have the carbs in England with you?
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Post by: rybes on April 01, 2012, 11:53:14 PM
im near viborg till sat the 7th of april then im back over to england for a while. how long, no one knows  :(
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Post by: rf9rider on April 02, 2012, 12:11:52 AM
Agree on the emulsion tubes, used to get the same problems on the Yamaha`s i owned.
Looks like a complete rebuild is in order, did mine and it runs fine now, although my tubes looked ok, i replaced all the o rings and seal.
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Post by: rybes on April 02, 2012, 10:52:18 AM
yeah i got mikunis on mine. i was thinkin it might be on the choke circuit somewhere ? as one of the little brass pipes on the carbs was bust. was workin fine with good mpg fully loaded up. then i replaced the pipe and mpg dropped buy bout 30 mile a tank.
i wonder if it was runnin too lean before when the pipe was broke ? hmmmm
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Post by: BruKen on April 02, 2012, 11:02:50 AM
What mpg are you getting or mileage per tank. I remember the tube you speak of, but that (unless its leaking externally) will not cause the issue. If the choke mechanism itself is sticking open, then yes it would, but that's easy enough to check too.
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Post by: rybes on April 02, 2012, 03:19:03 PM
cant tell you mpgs im gettin but i was gettin 180 mile from full till the red light come on. now im only get 150
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Post by: CoolHandLuke on April 02, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: "rybes"cant tell you mpgs im gettin but i was gettin 180 mile from full till the red light come on. now im only get 150
Light comes on when you have about 9 1/2 litres left in the tank (with standard fuel level gauge).  When you have to switch to reserve, you have about 3 1/2 litres left.  This a very good approximation, but it is only an approximation because bumps and turns will give a +/- of about 1/2 litre.

If you are filling right to the top, you are getting a solid 25 litres in the tank, which means you are using 15 1/2 litres to do 180 miles.

180 miles / 15.5 litres = 11.612
11.612 * 4.55 = 52.8 MPG.

Obviously, the best way to check your MPG is to always fill to the same level and divide your mileage by the number of litres you put in the tank to fill to the same level.
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Post by: rybes on April 02, 2012, 10:44:33 PM
as soon as i get back to england ill be fillin up n goin for a ride to see what i get out of it then pull the carbs for a look i think. check the tubes n choke circuit and condition and colour of the plugs. is it obvious if the tubes are worn ?
a rough guess at the min gives me 44 to the gallon.
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Post by: rf9rider on April 02, 2012, 11:50:31 PM
Quote from: "rybes"as soon as i get back to england ill be fillin up n goin for a ride to see what i get out of it then pull the carbs for a look i think. check the tubes n choke circuit and condition and colour of the plugs. is it obvious if the tubes are worn ?
a rough guess at the min gives me 44 to the gallon.

If you look carefully at the tubes, they wear out, leaving the hole oval instead of round, sometimes it`s obvious, might have to get a magnifying glass  :)
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Post by: rf9rider on April 03, 2012, 12:10:16 AM
If you look here Rybes, you`ll see the wear, look at the green inside the tubes, you`ll see the wear at the top of the holes

http://www.exup1000.co.uk/phpBB2/viewto ... sion+tubes (http://www.exup1000.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10438&highlight=emulsion+tubes)
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Post by: rybes on April 03, 2012, 11:09:29 AM
cheers for that rf. no0w i jus gotta find some green dots small enough to see any wear mine might have. i wonder where he got his from  :wink:
just in case, does anyone know the best place to get emulsion tubes and needles from ?
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Post by: rf9rider on April 03, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
Heard good reviews about these people.
You might have to ring them as web site not ready

http://www.allensperformance.co.uk/index.html (http://www.allensperformance.co.uk/index.html)
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Post by: rybes on April 04, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
nice one cheers rf. i forgot about that lot. as for it not bein finsihed, its ben like that for years. ill give em a ring next week n see what they say
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Post by: rf9rider on April 04, 2012, 10:26:08 PM
Yup, i`m sure i used them for carb bits for my YZF750 i had, they know there stuff.
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Post by: rybes on April 23, 2012, 05:39:30 PM
well i think i may have sussed the problem. its the carb float seals im guessin are leakin. and i would have to find out now. half hour earlier i couldve gone to get em. they shut in an hour gunna take longer than that to get there. so itll have to wait till tmora  :cry:
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Post by: rybes on April 25, 2012, 09:29:36 PM
new carb seals fitted. so now its jus a case of see what happens. while i was there i thought id take a look at the plugs and was surprised too see they were a light clayey colour.  i thought it was runnin rich as it pops out the exhaust. then again that might be cos of the zorst i got on it now.
checked the needles too. they got quite a few shiney spots. one needle almost looks polished.
now i jus need to sort out the misfire at 7000 rpm  :?:
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Post by: rf9rider on April 26, 2012, 12:42:49 AM
Must be the Venoms as mine pops too on the over run.
Hopefully thats the carbs sorted then  :)
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Post by: rybes on April 26, 2012, 08:29:48 AM
hopefully mate  :D  i didnt take em apart to check the needles and jets cos i didnt wanna see more money to spend than i got so ive left that for another day  :lol:
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