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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: GavD on May 26, 2012, 07:25:48 PM

Title: Progressive fork springs.
Post by: GavD on May 26, 2012, 07:25:48 PM
Hey guys, I've just won a set of Hagon progressive springs off ebay for £20, and have been browsing through the how to section but can't seem to find alot of info on changing them.

Mine's a 98 with Showa's. Is it just a case of removing the cap, hooking out the original springs, drain & measure the oil that comes out, replace with same amount of new oil, drop new springs in and bung it all back together?

Or have I just bought something I'll never use cos it's too complicated??

Cheers
Gav
Title: Re: Progressive fork springs.
Post by: Mustang on May 26, 2012, 08:21:11 PM
Quote from: "GavD"Hey guys, I've just won a set of Hagon progressive springs off ebay for £20, and have been browsing through the how to section but can't seem to find alot of info on changing them.

Mine's a 98 with Showa's. Is it just a case of removing the cap, hooking out the original springs, drain & measure the oil that comes out, replace with same amount of new oil, drop new springs in and bung it all back together?

Or have I just bought something I'll never use cos it's too complicated??

Cheers
Gav
you got it
tightly wound coils to the top ,

I've got the triumph ones that used to be available from triumph in my 95 not a whole lot if any determinable difference YMMV

if ya want to stiffen things up put some 10 or 15 wt fork oil back in , actually seems to help better than the springs
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Post by: GavD on May 27, 2012, 08:35:29 AM
Thanks Mustang,

I knew i could rely on you!

 :thumbsup
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Post by: Geoff W on May 28, 2012, 07:24:44 PM
I put some Hagon Prog's into mine some 5 or so years ago. They certainly reduced the dive under braking and firmed up the ride in general. They did seem to raise the ride height by approximately 1/2 an inch.
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Post by: rybes on May 28, 2012, 09:07:24 PM
Gav. i got hyper pros in mine and ya might like to know that the manual for fittin em suggests droppin em through the forks by 25mm.
mine are like that and it hqandles a treat. got 15wt oil in em but im thinkin of usin 10 wt jus to stiffen em up a tad more.
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Post by: GavD on May 28, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
QuoteGav. i got hyper pros in mine and ya might like to know that the manual for fittin em suggests droppin em through the forks by 25mm.
mine are like that and it hqandles a treat. got 15wt oil in em but im thinkin of usin 10 wt jus to stiffen em up a tad more.

Rybes, do you mean raising the forks through the yokes?? If so I've alreading got mine raised by 10mm (i.e. the bike sits a bit lower at the front)

If you don't mean that, how do you drop the springs through the forks??

Also I thought if you used a lower wt oil it's less viscous and therefore would be softer.

Cheers
Gav
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Post by: rybes on May 28, 2012, 11:17:36 PM
yeah sorry mate shouldve made it a bit clearer. put ya forks throo 25 mm not the springs.
i thought the lower the number the thicker the oil. hmm ill have t wait till mustang comes back to correct me :lol:
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Post by: Mustang on May 29, 2012, 12:36:38 AM
bigger # =thicker oil
manual recommends 10 wt ...15 wt will stiffen things up . :D
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Post by: rybes on May 29, 2012, 06:39:52 AM
see told ya :lol:

done some research and apparently, these are the best forks you can get

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af76/IM_Rybes/ohlins_forks.jpg)

its just findin some  :?:
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Post by: theclowncrusty on June 24, 2012, 11:30:18 PM
My nan has a whole draw full of forks looking like that when i go round for dinner. Might nick a pair and fit them to the Steamer. LOL
Crusty
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Post by: rybes on July 02, 2012, 02:49:16 PM
Gav. what do the springs you won look like ? the reason i ask is im takin apart a pair of forks for the stanchions to put the 3 spokes on and ive found these forks have progressive springs in em. they look odd tho cos the spring goes all the way to the top of the fork leg so theres no spacer under the top cap.
are they like yours, if not does anyone know who the manufacturer might be ?
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Post by: GavD on July 02, 2012, 05:37:05 PM
Unfortunately Rybes they still look like this. Not really had the chance to get her up on blocks and drop the forks out to get em changed. Partly because the weathers been so shite that I didn't want to miss out on a sunny day if it cropped up and partly because I've been a lazy b'stard.

I've measured them at 652mm long if that's any good to ya.
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on July 03, 2012, 05:23:01 AM
You should be able to do it in situ without dropping the forks, unless you want to take the forks out just for thte hell of it  :lol:
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Post by: GavD on July 03, 2012, 07:13:40 PM
Unfortunately I've got the ones without the drain bolts and i wanna change the oil, so i'll have to drop em out.
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Post by: rybes on July 08, 2012, 09:25:10 PM
measured my springs today and their the same length as yours Gav so im guessin they mus be the same make. cheers for measurin em  :wink:
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Post by: GavD on July 08, 2012, 09:39:25 PM
No probs Rybes,

Do you reckon I need to leave out the spacer when I get round to it then?
Any Idea the length of a standard spring?
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Post by: rybes on July 09, 2012, 09:07:10 AM
yeah youll have to leave the spacer out. my springs pop out the top of the fork leg. no idea what the standard length is but i have 2 in the garage so if i remember tonight ill measure em for ya.
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Post by: GavD on July 09, 2012, 07:57:16 PM
Thanks for that Rybes, I can imagine I'd have spent hours in the garage swearing & trying to squeeze all the bits back in to a space that was too small.
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