Hi guys
I am normally pretty handy working on bikes but I am not sure if I'm haveing a blond moment. I slackened of the ecentric adjuster clamp bolts to adjust the chain, and they were definately free, but could I turn the adjusters. I could move the adjusters in and out on the swinging arm. Am I going totally barking mad or am I missing something.
put the bike on the center stand :lol:
Speaking about centrestands, I don't know how I could possibly not have had one for so long. It's absolutely critical for cleaning, maintenance and chain adjustments...
Quote from: "Robbie"put the bike on the center stand :lol:
Very 'kin funny :?
Badger, I am not getting what is the problem.
Quote from: "Kill Switch"Badger, I am not getting what is the problem.
I think he's trying to adjust the chain on his GS again...
Quote from: "Mudhen"Quote from: "Kill Switch"Badger, I am not getting what is the problem.
I think he's trying to adjust the chain on his GS again...
:mrgreen:
What a bunch of feckin piss takers. :) I am trying to adjust the chain. I am loosening the bolts at the end of the swinging arm that clamp the eccentric adjusters and then trying to turn them using the 12mm Allen key but even though they are loose they will not turn. Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhh!
Going slightly mad. :?
Have you loosened the axle bolts through the centre of the wheel hub :? this will help.... Good luck. :wink:
Shouldn't have to loosen the axel nut/bolt, unless the index marks are not in the same place on both sides, but it won't hurt anything either I suppose. The center stand comment is valid. Is the bike on a center stand or swingarm stand (i.e., up in the air)? That would certainly help. I'm also assuming you've tried to move the assembly both directions? If the chain is tight you obviously won't be able to move the assembly in that (tighter) direction. . . just guessing here, but sounds very odd if everything is loose. . . Get out the BFH (big F****** hammer)!
DON"T loosen the axle bolt unless you are trying to align the rear wheel. The eccentrics should turn if you have both pinch bolts loose. Both sides turn together, are you trying to move the sides independently? They should move even on the sidestand though the centerstand makes it easier.
Bagder,
Try standing on the allen key, I had to do this, then a "gentle" tap it with a hammer until you that happy with the tension.
I think it gets eh... stuck after a while.
Looks like no one adjusts their chain around here.
OK. The bike is on the centre stand. I have adjusted the chain before without loosening the axle bolt. I have tried moving the adjuster both ways. I've been around bikes most of my life and do most of my own servicing including rebuilding engines in the past but this is bloody strange.
Hi Badger mate,
I just noticed your in Baise I'm in Newbury small world. :D
Sorry but I don't think I can help...the system on the 05 seems to be completely different from what you're describing. We have a big spindle nut on the axle which has to be loosened. Then each side has a locknut and an adjusting nut (all 12mm). We release the locknut and move the adjusting nut towards the rear so as to push out the wheel. (Once for each side o'course.) Then re-tighten the locknuts and tighten the spindle nut. Not an allen wrench in sight.
It's interesting (as in "annoying" and "dumb") that Triumph provides me not one of the necessary tools to do this! The spindle nut is far too large to be tackled by anything in the toolkit, and even the adjusting and locknuts are 12mm--the provided open end wrench is I think 13mm and 11mm, dammit.
BTW that spindle nut is 27mm. You can get a socket like that at any auto parts store or Sears or whatever.
Quote from: "knarf"Hi Badger mate,
I just noticed your in Baise I'm in Newbury small world. :D
I mentioned this to you once before on TriumphRAT forum. By the way I work at Vodafone HQ. I have seen a yellow Tiger once near the Robin Hood junction. Was it you I wonder?
Badger
Sorry for the stand comment.
The eccentrics can get a line of corrosion along the pinch bolt joint that will make them stiff to turn but free to slide sideways.
Also the brake torque arm can seize up a bit due to the salty conditions and give that side the same feel.
If you have the time strip out the wheel and look at the bits, if you need the bike then it is BFH time to knock off the corrosion line.
If you strip out the bits then donÌt be tempted to oil the eccentrics, the torque arm and spindle should be greased.
Spend some time checking the wheel alignment is correct when it is back together.
Good luck
Quote from: "Robbie"Badger
Sorry for the stand comment.
The eccentrics can get a line of corrosion along the pinch bolt joint that will make them stiff to turn but free to slide sideways.
Also the brake torque arm can seize up a bit due to the salty conditions and give that side the same feel.
If you have the time strip out the wheel and look at the bits, if you need the bike then it is BFH time to knock off the corrosion line.
If you strip out the bits then donÌt be tempted to oil the eccentrics, the torque arm and spindle should be greased.
Spend some time checking the wheel alignment is correct when it is back together.
Good luck
Cheers Robbie. I will have a look at the weekend.
By the way, no offence taken. I am a p1$$ taking bar steward myself
Quote from: "Badger"I mentioned this to you once before on TriumphRAT forum. By the way I work at Vodafone HQ. I have seen a yellow Tiger once near the Robin Hood junction. Was it you I wonder?
Oh I never noticed the post on the triumphrat.net forum :oops:
Yes I pass the robinhood roundabout twice daily and I work the other side of Newbury. Big yellow beastie was prob me, I have a wing rack and a usually a big Givi top box on the back for my Laptop.
Traffic in Newbury can be a real pain, Unless your on a Tiger :D
If you feel the need for a wee lunchtime run try the B4494 Wantage/Old Oxford Road. Its one of my fav roads and has a distinct lack of other bikes and cars. It'll take less than an hour to get to wantage and back.
Quote from: "knarf"...Yes I pass the robinhood roundabout twice daily and I work the other side of Newbury. Big yellow beastie was prob me, I have a wing rack and a usually a big Givi top box on the back for my Laptop.
Traffic in Newbury can be a real pain, Unless your on a Tiger :D
If you feel the need for a wee lunchtime run try the B4494 Wantage/Old Oxford Road. Its one of my fav roads and has a distinct lack of other bikes and cars. It'll take less than an hour to get to wantage and back.
I also go over that junction twice a day. As you say going through Newbury is a breeze on the Tigger. It's great that middle lane that is there just for bikes. :D
I've ridden the B4494 before and it is a cracking bit of road. Anyway I haven't seen you for a while. What time do you pass through?
The first time I adjusted mine I had the same problem. I even undid the axel nuts. I finally used one wrench on each side and it moved very easy. I just redid it last week and I had to use 2 again. Worked real easy. Don't ask me why that it 's needed, but it worked for me.
Quote from: "MikeF"The first time I adjusted mine I had the same problem. I even undid the axel nuts. I finally used one wrench on each side and it moved very easy. I just redid it last week and I had to use 2 again. Worked real easy. Don't ask me why that it 's needed, but it worked for me.
Thanks Mike. I looks as though riding through an English winter has got them a bit sh1tty. I will buy another 12mm Allen key and give that a go.
Quote from: "Badger"I've ridden the B4494 before and it is a cracking bit of road. Anyway I haven't seen you for a while. What time do you pass through?
I hit Robinhood Just before 9 if I can get out my bed in time :) and anytime between 5 and 6 going home.
For those that don't know it's called robinhood because it robs you of god given time on this wee blue / green planet. Unless your on a bike, I can save upto 30mins on 3 mile trip to work.
Badger,
The eccentrics SHOULD move once you've got the end clamps undone. If they don't, I suggest that you take the wheel out and have a good look around it. Without the wheel in there you should be able to try each side seperately with some easing oil sprayed everywhere.