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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: VM-BASIC on January 27, 2013, 09:09:31 PM

Title: Shim Pack
Post by: VM-BASIC on January 27, 2013, 09:09:31 PM
Hi everybody,
Can anyone tell me if such a thing exists?
I have been searching the net to no avail.
What I really require is a complete shim pack, so when I come to adjust the valves I have a ready supply of likely shims. Just me being anal a little as I would rather have it all to hand before I dive in, than leave it semi dismantled waiting for some shims to show up.
I am in the Medicine Hat area of S E Alberta if anyone has local knowledge of availability.
Bfore you ask, I have e-mailed Echo Cycle and Blackfoot, am still waiting for a response.

Many thanks in advance and counting weeks until it thaws enough to get Tigger backonto the blacktop
Title: Re: Shim Pack
Post by: birddogone on January 27, 2013, 11:22:53 PM
Here ya go..........   http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Shims-25mm-Valve-Shim-Shop-Kit-w-Storage-Case-Honda-CBX-Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-/400325180814?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d353d7d8e&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Shim Pack
Post by: Mustang on January 27, 2013, 11:59:57 PM
that kit on ebay is no bargain ......I wouldn't buy it
It has 8 shims in it that you are never going to use (all the 2.8 and bigger shims ) as triumphs are usually in the 2.8 range when new.
and of the sizes you are likely to need there are only two of each size . and they are in to big of an increment between sizes .

2.65 and 2.75 as well as 2.675 are very common sizes to need when doing a triumphs valves for the first time at 12-20 k miles
I've done enough of em to know to just get what you need

this master kit of theirs has a better slection but still has 12 shims you are never going to need and still only has 2 each of the sizes you will need the most of
again you'd be better off just buying what you need .
you can get 25 mm shims from Honda Suzuki, Kawasaki and triumph dealers
Title: Re: Shim Pack
Post by: VM-BASIC on January 28, 2013, 02:41:26 AM
Hi Mustang, thanks for the advice.
So picking your brains a little, how many of what sizes would you reccomend to have to hand to accomplish this in one foul swoop. I appreciate that you can often mix and match other shims. Living here in rural Alberta makes doing the simoplest things a pain as travelling to where the parts are would take best part of a day up.
Any advice as ever always welcome
Title: Re: Shim Pack
Post by: Mustang on January 28, 2013, 04:27:16 AM
How many miles has the bike done ?
has it been ridden hard ie . Long days in hot weather at high rpms ?
have the valves ever been shimmed ?

as you see there are a lot of variables at play here.....................
Myself I wouldn't buy any until I knew what it needed ........It's winter ,it won't matter if she sits for a day or two or three to get shims you need .
The shims cost anywhere from 7to15 bucks each depending on dealer .
And you never know there is a good possibility that you check the clearances and won't need to do anything but button it back up .
Title: Re: Shim Pack
Post by: Fross on January 28, 2013, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: VM-BASIC on January 28, 2013, 02:41:26 AM
Any advice as ever always welcome
I was thinking just like you :thumbsup and wanted to buy a range of spare shims before stripping down to check the clearances. When I did the service all the valve gaps were within tolerance with no adjustment necessary. I was glad afterwards I didn't buy any.
I did buy the special tool, which now sits unused in my toolbox ready for next time. But from what I've read, it could be a long wait before I ever need to use it. :sleepy1
Title: Re: Shim Pack
Post by: Meatman on January 28, 2013, 11:19:39 PM
I was told, if the valves aren't making any noise then they are probably within tolerance and to leave them alone till they do start to make a little noise.  Checking them is easy enough, but I had mine checked at the first 14,000 and they needed no adjustment.
Title: Re: Shim Pack
Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 29, 2013, 02:09:24 PM
logic is only true for old engines usually with tappets. On modern engines like ours with buckets and shims, the clearance is affected by wear, the valve face/seat to be exact.  The effect is the gap gets smaller, not bigger so rattles are good, quiet is bad. Very bad. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Shim Pack
Post by: Mustang on January 29, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
 :iagree
I'm with bob on this
has been the case on every hinkley triumph I've been in

someones been talkin  :Topes to ya
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