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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: nojohn on March 07, 2013, 11:31:14 PM

Title: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: nojohn on March 07, 2013, 11:31:14 PM
is there an easy way to remove siezed rear brake pins on a 2005 ,got one out but other stuck, hex socket  rounded off
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 08, 2013, 01:03:56 AM
Just been through that myself, one of the perils of winter riding.  Had to drill both of mine out although if you use the search button there's a thread about hammering a torx bit into it.  If you go the drill route, use a sharp drill, a nice fit in the rounded hole and keep it straight. Once you are into the main body of the pin, change to a bigger drill. Use the pin you got out to determine the biggest size you can safely use without damaging the thread. As you reach the other side the pin will break off then all you need to do is extract the remains of the thread. Go careful with the second drill as it'll snag in the hole and try to pull itself in.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: cosmo on March 08, 2013, 01:52:42 AM
Use a left-handed bit, and the drill will then catch and try to remove the remains. Which works in your favour.

Cosmo
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: nojohn on March 08, 2013, 10:49:16 AM
thanks for info will try drilling <once it stops raining> :XXsunsmile
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: chappers on March 10, 2013, 08:54:59 PM
had the same problem but mine seemed to of been glued in by a triumph dealer. i even tried cutting the pin and welding a nut onto it but it kept breaking off , so i had to go down the drill out route. it was a big pain but it worked. now ive got both front calipiers to do  :pottytrain2
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 10, 2013, 10:31:33 PM
The fronts aren't usually as bad as the back for unknown reasons.  Use a really good allen key and make sure it's a good fit. Put an extension tube over it and carefully build up the pressure.  Penetrating fluid also helps, and soak it as long as you can first, assuming you'll put hew pads in afterwards.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: blacktiger on March 14, 2013, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on March 10, 2013, 10:31:33 PM
The fronts aren't usually as bad as the back for unknown reasons.  Use a really good allen key and make sure it's a good fit. Put an extension tube over it and carefully build up the pressure.  Penetrating fluid also helps, and soak it as long as you can first, assuming you'll put hew pads in afterwards.

And then buy some stainless steel ones.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: jeffcrigler on March 15, 2013, 07:38:16 PM
I went the penetrating oil route .... the put the flat head in and whacked it with a hammer a few times before I tried to move it.. Did the same on the hex inside .. Both came out with a snap.. And BTW the were both rusted solid.. this method has always worked for me
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: daveb on March 17, 2013, 11:56:54 AM
just had a go at the rear pins in mine, oh the joys of riding in winter, the pins are stuck fast. one of the hex has now started to round off.

I did find some stainless steel ones on the square deals site http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/stainless-steel-brake-pad-retaining-pins-rear-caliper-65mm-1xpair-6849-p.asp

we will see what happens on Friday as the bike has the mot, the rear disk looks like its stating to get grooves. If she fail on this they can sort it out for me.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: blacktiger on March 17, 2013, 01:08:37 PM
Quote from: daveb on March 17, 2013, 11:56:54 AM
just had a go at the rear pins in mine, oh the joys of riding in winter, the pins are stuck fast. one of the hex has now started to round off.

I did find some stainless steel ones on the square deals site http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/stainless-steel-brake-pad-retaining-pins-rear-caliper-65mm-1xpair-6849-p.asp

we will see what happens on Friday as the bike has the mot, the rear disk looks like its stating to get grooves. If she fail on this they can sort it out for me.

Don't want to "rub it in" but, having had experience of this type of calliper before, one of the first things I did when I got my bike home after buying it was take the pins out and cover the threads in large amounts of Copper Slip. Then soon after I bought some stainless ones.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 17, 2013, 02:00:47 PM
On mine, both ends were seized so after assembling them (loads of copperslip, always do) I sealed them with some clear  left over roof sealer.  We'll see......
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: daveb on March 17, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
going to buy some plus gas tomorrow also going to order some stainless pins. I will see about getting some copper slip from work

so I will go down the penetrating oil method first.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: chappers on March 17, 2013, 06:16:23 PM
i soaked mine in duck oil for days b4 i tried to work it free. but after i took off the screw in dust cap i noticed the pin was slightly rounded off, i cant think why anyone would put a slightly rounded off pin back in . knew i was heading for trouble soon as i clapped eyes on it.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: daveb on March 23, 2013, 04:10:26 PM
good news the bike passed the Mot, just ordered the stainless steel pins, acquired some plus gas, got a week off from good friday :)
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: blacktiger on March 23, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
A solution I used on my 955 years ago was to take out the wheel so that I could get at the calliper easier. Cut a small portion off the pin at the far end so that I could remove the pads. Then, I bent the remainder of the pin 90 degrees so that it then had the leverage of an Allen key. It came loose then. Then you've got to cut off the bent bit and remove what's left in the normal way.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: daveb on March 23, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on March 23, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
A solution I used on my 955 years ago was to take out the wheel so that I could get at the calliper easier. Cut a small portion off the pin at the far end so that I could remove the pads. Then, I bent the remainder of the pin 90 degrees so that it then had the leverage of an Allen key. It came loose then. Then you've got to cut off the bent bit and remove what's left in the normal way.

might try this at some point, I was also thinking of slightly shocking the pins by giving them a gentle tab from the wheel side of the caliper.
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: daveb on March 28, 2013, 08:59:21 AM
my birthday pressies arrived, so I got 4 pins to change

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/DaveBelton/3d2184db-db00-4356-bc63-9d0ce6df3fda_zpsf1eb14c7.jpg)
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: nojohn on March 28, 2013, 10:29:08 AM
drilled out pin yesterday took a while ,stepped up drill size 5mm to 6.5mm last drill left handed it snagged and turned pin head out stainless going in  :wings
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: daveb on March 28, 2013, 10:52:36 AM
lucky enough I work for an engineering company, the MD offered our machine shop to help me out. 
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: daveb on March 28, 2013, 01:14:01 PM
job done, just re-fit it to the Girly tonight
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: Dutch on April 05, 2013, 08:44:12 PM
As you can read in the "Dutch Queen" topic I joined the club today. Before getting too frustrated I put some penetration fluid on the pin. After about 2 hours I hammered a torx bit in the head and got the pin out. Even put it back in, I'll look for stainless pins in the weekend. Front is one pin per caliper isn't it? So four is the number to look for...
Title: Re: siezed brake pad pins
Post by: daveb on April 05, 2013, 09:53:13 PM
correct Dutch, the rear stainless I ordered came as a pair, fronts stainless were singular. so 1xpair (rear) 2x single front

see the links - hope this helps

Front http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/stainless-steel-replacement-brake-pad-retaining-pin-front-caliper-58mm-7161-p.asp

Rear http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/stainless-steel-brake-pad-retaining-pins-rear-caliper-65mm-1xpair-6849-p.asp
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