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Title: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: coachgeo on March 12, 2013, 04:58:28 AM
in an add on craigslist a fellow says about a 1997 Tiger Steamer

Quote from: craigslistI wouldn't consider this bike if I was not at least 5'11'' (no offense), as it is top heavy and rides "high."

About his statement: What say you?

If lowered in the ways described on this board (ecentric turned, lower seat, fork tubes slide up).........  then what say you about hight range of rider a Steamer  fits?
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: Nick Calne on March 12, 2013, 07:45:11 PM
I agree with the poster.

Most tiger riders are quite tall and it does ride 'high'.  Have a look at this photo at the UK2011 meet up.  I'm far left and 6'2"... certainly not the tallest rider that day, nowhere near in fact!

Coolhandluke's bronze tiger is on the right and it looks taller than the Girly and the beaker bikes.  It is massive compared to my daytona.

(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/black955tiger/Tiger%20meeting%20Wilts%202011/IMG_2667.jpg)
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: coachgeo on March 14, 2013, 08:52:39 PM
Quote from: coachgeo on March 12, 2013, 04:58:28 AM
in an add on craigslist a fellow says about a 1997 Tiger Steamer

Quote from: craigslistI wouldn't consider this bike if I was not at least 5'11'' (no offense), as it is top heavy and rides "high."
....

If lowered in the ways described on this board (ecentric turned, lower seat, fork tubes slide up).........  then what say you about height range of rider a Steamer  fits?
and what say you on lowered? Thanx in advance for any info.
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: Sin_Tiger on March 15, 2013, 02:36:38 AM
Coach, I would wait till you get the monster on the road. The weight and distribution is bound to be different, so might the ride height. Working with the standard set up Erroll give you a baseline to work from, or back to if it all goes pear shaped.
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: coachgeo on March 15, 2013, 05:28:56 AM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on March 15, 2013, 02:36:38 AM
Coach, I would wait till you get the monster on the road. The weight and distribution is bound to be different, so might the ride height. Working with the standard set up Erroll give you a baseline to work from, or back to if it all goes pear shaped.
Eroll?   Weight and distribution will of course be different. Height won't unless we go to shaft drive, or flip the sprocket to other side etc. which changes all geometry. Was hoping to plunge in deep and ride it to Cincinnati area where I live from Dallas where it is being built (where I use to live) after its done.  Am just trying to plan ahead for that possibility. 

May have to pay to have it shipped but that cuts into the build budget.
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: Sin_Tiger on March 15, 2013, 06:51:47 AM
Flynn  :hat10 auto correction  :doubt

Riding is of course going to be more fun if you can manage it and a lot cheaper on diesel  :love10 also drive characteristics from the diesel engine be different from that of a petrol engine and I think you will want to take that into account when setting up your suspension. I know this from doing diesel conversions on cars, what I knew was a good set up with respect to braking control, drive out of corners, grip and ride just wasn't right with the diesel engine, even though the weight difference was no more than a few donuts
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: abruzzi on March 18, 2013, 06:35:09 PM
Its all technique.  I have a bike with a 38" seat height.  When I'm riding it down the road, with both legs fully extended, I'm still several inches from touching.  I'm 5'10", wear jeans with 30" inseams.  I've owned a 955 tiger, Steamer, KTM 950ADV (the earlier tall ones), and a KTM 640ADV.  The 955 tiger was my first adventure bike, so it took me a couple of week to really feel comfortable.  Since then, I never look at seat height when I buy.  I just assume that if its a tall bike, I'll have to slide off the seat a bit to get a foot down at stop lights.

Flat footing is overrated.

Geof
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: iansoady on March 19, 2013, 12:06:26 PM
Quote from: abruzzi on March 18, 2013, 06:35:09 PM

Flat footing is overrated.


Until you need to do it in a hurry and your foot ends up in a hole.....

I have fairly short legs and although the Tiger is fine once on the move (in fact very stable and easy to control)  it can be a handful when starting /stopping, especially on adverse cambers / steep slopes / greasy or uneven surfaces. I wouldn't try to put anyone off but it's a heavy and unwieldy thing and once it decides to go down there's little you can do about it. Flat footing from a secure position on the seat gives psychological security if nothing else.
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 19, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
What he said..... :hat10
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: Sin_Tiger on March 19, 2013, 02:51:27 PM
Never trust grass  :doubt
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: John Stenhouse on March 19, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
Or steep garage forecourts on the BTBR Coast to coast...............Once Marcus had stopped laughing and we picked the beast up we came seventh
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: abruzzi on March 20, 2013, 05:28:10 AM
Quote from: iansoady on March 19, 2013, 12:06:26 PM
Quote from: abruzzi on March 18, 2013, 06:35:09 PM

Flat footing is overrated.


Until you need to do it in a hurry and your foot ends up in a hole.....

I have fairly short legs and although the Tiger is fine once on the move (in fact very stable and easy to control)  it can be a handful when starting /stopping, especially on adverse cambers / steep slopes / greasy or uneven surfaces. I wouldn't try to put anyone off but it's a heavy and unwieldy thing and once it decides to go down there's little you can do about it. Flat footing from a secure position on the seat gives psychological security if nothing else.

That's best solved by being careful where you stop, and learning how to pick up you bike when you drop it (and not being too in love with your paint job that you fear dropping it.). I haven't been able to flatfoot any bike I've owned for the last 5 years.  I hate to be dickish, but that is simply the way with these types of bikes.  Tigers, KTM Advs, BMW GSs, Yamaha Teneres, Suzuki VStroms.  They're all tall, and they're mostly heavy.  Once you start looking at so-called "adventure" bike it's simply a fact of life, and while some who get into them go to great lengths to drop the seat height down, I think it's better to accept their height and learn the riding techniques that make it a non-issue.

Geof
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: Sin_Tiger on March 20, 2013, 10:44:33 AM
 :iagree get over it and get on with riding p :thumbsup
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: Spud on March 20, 2013, 05:24:30 PM
I'm 5 10 and don't have to many problems, though once it decides to have a kip it will  :sleepy1 cheers Spud  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: chappers on March 20, 2013, 08:31:37 PM
iam 6 foot3 and i drop my tiger twice on the same day last year . what a tit i felt  lol
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: trophydave on March 20, 2013, 09:42:35 PM
I'm 5ft 10 and manage the 955 Tigger fine when it's moving although I have to be careful at very low speeds.The forks have been pulled through the clamps 10mm and I run the rear preload just a touch too soft to get me a bit nearer the ground.I can flat foot the bike on one side if I lean over a bit otherwise it's toe ends so parking has to be done carefully.Looking at various marks and bent bits on the bike,a previous owner has let it lie down gently a couple of times,I have been lucky so far.To be honest I found my 94 900 Trophy worse for wanting to fall over,it was so top heavy.
Title: Re: 5'11 or taller recomended
Post by: Sin_Tiger on March 23, 2013, 03:11:26 AM
There you go, being a 6'2" Yorkie does not guarantee not dropping the bike, then why let it bother you.
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