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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: rybes on May 02, 2013, 02:14:32 PM

Title: fork swap
Post by: rybes on May 02, 2013, 02:14:32 PM
if you was goin to replace the forks on your steamer with a set of upside downies. what forks would you choose ? im lookin to keep the ride height the same as it is now so theyve gotta be long ones or at least be able to be lengthened some how.
i remeber seein someone on here with ktm forks but cant seem to find the thread now
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: ned37 on May 02, 2013, 07:21:22 PM
i've never been a big fan of usd forks on a dualsport app.  there's too many standard cartridge forks from older mx and enduro bikes to choose from  that fit right in the tiger triple clamps.  easier to mod up axles, brake caliper mounts, etc.  once you get the oil viscosity and springs right, you have adjustability on both ends.
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: Mustang on May 02, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
rybes

there is this ................
http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,3381.msg19525.html#msg19525

patricks bike with lc4 ktm forks and front wheel and brakes from another ktm model

Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rf9rider on May 03, 2013, 12:57:53 AM
I looked into usd forks before i fitted the trophy wheels, couldn`t find anything that came close, think the longest ones i found were about 4 inches too short.
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rybes on May 03, 2013, 10:34:16 AM
dual sports not really a problem to me ned. i dont use it off road so i dont have probs with it havin to soak up big bumps.

cheers mustang thats the one i was lookin at. just a shame it only has one disc  :icon_scratch:

hmm cheers for that rf. maybe i should jus forget about it then unless i fancy lowerin the rest of the bike to suit  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: ned37 on May 03, 2013, 06:16:32 PM
Quotei dont use it off road
:5huh i dunno about you guys that live in the civilized world.
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 04, 2013, 12:31:54 PM
The Roadie is probably going to be the closest, without checking.
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: qbto on May 05, 2013, 12:54:32 AM
KTM ?
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: Nick Calne on May 07, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
I suppose once you think through this problem that it becomes a hell of a job.  Assuming that you find a set of upside downers the right length then:

- You might need new yokes for the forks, probably custom made to keep everything else in the right place etc. Bearings, ignition barrel, stops etc
- The wheel fixing would be different so probably a new front wheel entirely, including brake rotors and speedo mechanism
- You would need new brake calipers to suit the forks and rotor.  How does this affect the cables and the lever stuff?
- Does the speedo then work with the gauge?
- Mudguard
- Tyre
- Oil, seals and any specialist tools...

That said it sounds like a very interesting project - Go on Rybes, you can do it! 
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: akendall1966 on May 07, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
They will probably be WP 4846MXMA as fitted to ktm husaberg ccm including the ktm 990 adventure. I bought a set on ebay for 20gbp a few weeks back as spares for my little ccm thumper. The stock triple clamps are meaty enough, there are supermoto wheels around if you dont want 21" biggest issue is single disc. But you could use 2 left hand forks to get caliper mounts on both sides. Just did  a  quick measure fork spacing is about the same at 190mm so is pretty good starting point.

Probably the entire front end from a 990 adventure woild get you going :icon_salut:
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rybes on May 07, 2013, 09:52:52 PM
but nic, its a challenge aint it  :rock-1: lol im still tryin to work out how to get a 1050 swingarm in me steamer.  :icon_scratch:

cheers kendall  :thumbsup id be alright to use 2 lefts then for dual discs ? most of the forks i know are handed because of the caliper mount. definatly summink ill look into tho
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: akendall1966 on May 07, 2013, 11:28:26 PM
Had a closer look at mine the caliper mount is offset so if you  used 2 lefts its going to have to have some sort of spacers on one side.  But the 990 adventure is twin disc so a handed pair could be found.  The axel / caliper casting screws onto the lower slider so probably could get this part to convert a single disc set of forks into dual. If you google wp 4860mxma service manual youll readily find it which is a great referebce  for these forks.

Ps they are 36" top to the axel centre uncompressed, the steamer measured about 35" on the side stand not sure how much sag  i have got. But  there not far apart.
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: Nick Calne on May 08, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
Rybes - I love a challenge, especially when someone else is doing it.  Have you thought about Yamaha Super Tenere forks?  They are probably less expensive than KTM ones. Probably...
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rybes on May 08, 2013, 11:21:01 PM
cheers for that Kendal  :thumbsup no, ive not thought of those ones nick. was gunna take a ride around at the weekend and see what dealers i can find that have got big trail bikes in and see what i can find out
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rf9rider on May 09, 2013, 12:45:57 AM
I`m sure someone on here has one, think it was that model KTM at the Tiger meet last year.
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rf9rider on May 09, 2013, 12:50:58 AM
Yup, NKL has one, might be worth a PM for measurements and info.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: akendall1966 on May 09, 2013, 06:50:01 AM
NKL went over to a KTM 990 a couple of years back, not sure if he still post on here.

But all the KTM's 350cc plus use that same basic 48mm OD fork from 2001/2 ish not sure if they are still current but there should be lots around as there was close to 10 years of production at least I would think. They just have different spring rates and lengths depending on the application. PS I saw the KTM 640 adventure (LC4) also is twin disc, so not just the 990's
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rybes on May 09, 2013, 09:28:01 PM
might be worth a pm to see if he still does post here then.

thanks again Kendall. looks like ill be huntin ktm forks. gunna be fun tryin to fit the 3 spoke in  :icon_study:
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rf9rider on May 10, 2013, 12:25:38 AM
NKL was about today and yesterday on here.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: Mustang on May 10, 2013, 12:28:21 AM
Quote from: rf9rider on May 10, 2013, 12:25:38 AM
NKL was about today and yesterday on here.  :thumbsup
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Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: TripleTragic on May 11, 2013, 08:44:23 AM
Dammit! now you have got me thinking some very expensive thoughts!  There is this set of 950Adv fork with the wheel on ebay...
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rybes on May 11, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
i know its horrible aint it triple. i only sat in front of the pc lookin for brake pads. time id finished id convinced meself to find upside downies. bloody internet and its open door to temptation  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: akendall1966 on May 15, 2013, 08:57:59 PM


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CCM-Front-Forks-White-Powder-Suspention-644-604-R30-/251269079363

75gbp
;)
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rybes on May 15, 2013, 10:18:51 PM
 :thumbsup cheers mate. cheap enough too
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: TripleTragic on May 16, 2013, 01:25:40 PM
Watch out for that White Powder, though.  The package may be a little slowed in the post with a description like that...
Title: Re: fork swap
Post by: rybes on May 16, 2013, 07:45:38 PM
 :mut good point triple
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