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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: Patrick the Scot on February 27, 2005, 02:50:23 AM

Title: K&N Oil Filter - Did Not Fit
Post by: Patrick the Scot on February 27, 2005, 02:50:23 AM
I got a K&N Filter (part number KN191) from PJ's Triumph to install along with the oil change.  I got the Triumph filter off the bike easy enough, and when I went to install the new K&N it would not seat properly.  I tighten it as far as it would go, (w/o breaking something) and it would still wiggle side to side.  I then took the filter off and saw that the rolled edge of the filter was hitting some sort of washer/retainer that is just to the outside of the gasket seating relief.  I then measured the Triumph Filter as opposed to the K&N.  The K&N was about 3.175 mm bigger than the Triumph.  So I was skunked on the oil change.  I duct-taped the key hole on the ignition with a "NO OIL" sign.  



After that I finished in the garage, I rang Steve at PJ's and told him the situ. He had not heard anything of the sort.  He is sending me a new Triumph filter on Monday, at no charge. I will send him the K&N for his inspection as we would both like to know if this an anomoly or a common problem, on the '05.



Anybody heard of this?
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Post by: Frank.B on February 27, 2005, 08:15:33 AM
Hello Patrick.



You should have been supplied with a K&N filter #192 for the Tiger.

What year is your Tig?



Frank.
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Post by: Patrick the Scot on February 27, 2005, 02:53:21 PM
My Tiger is an '05 model.  Is the #192 for the '05 model or is it for the 955i Tiger across the board.
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Post by: Frank.B on February 27, 2005, 06:22:37 PM
Patrick.



The KN191 is listed for the TT600, Bonny, Speed Triple, Daytona 955i, and Sprint.

I understand that the kn 192 does all the Tigers.



Frank.
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Post by: davensocal on February 28, 2005, 04:24:16 AM
Patrick-

Hope this doesn't come off the wrong way..  



I used an off the shelf filter...  Pepboys and Kragen carry it (I think Kragen is "Checker" in Tx..).  It is a Purolator Pure 1, P/N PL14612.  It's about $6.

From what I have been able to research, it is one of the best filters available, and it is reasonably priced.



This site talks all about them, I found it very helpful..  http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consum ... OilFilters (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consumables.html#OilFilters)



Good Luck!



Dave.
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Post by: Patrick the Scot on March 01, 2005, 04:35:58 AM
Quote from: "davensocal"Patrick-

Hope this doesn't come off the wrong way..  



I used an off the shelf filter...  Pepboys and Kragen carry it (I think Kragen is "Checker" in Tx..).  It is a Purolator Pure 1, P/N PL14612.  It's about $6.

From what I have been able to research, it is one of the best filters available, and it is reasonably priced.



This site talks all about them, I found it very helpful..  http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consum ... OilFilters (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consumables.html#OilFilters)



Dave.



Honestly, I've never even thought of going to the parts stores.  I've gotten so used to buying all my over-priced cartridge filters for my dirt-bikes at the moto-shops that it never occurred to me to look elsewhere.  Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post by: tigerowner_ut on March 09, 2005, 02:10:22 AM
I use a Bosch 3300 oil filter from Autozone.  It  filters as well as the Purolator.  Both are excelent filters and quite a bit cheaper than stock.
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Post by: Patrick the Scot on March 09, 2005, 04:42:49 AM
Thanks all for the info on alternate filters. I'll have to check into them.  I did get the OEM filter from PJ's last Monday and of course, no problems.
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Post by: Mark on May 15, 2005, 06:59:19 AM
I ordered an K&N oil filter through my local bike dealership (Kawasaki, as Triumph is 60KM away) and I got PN KN191, having read this thread previously I said it's the wrong PN and told them KN192, the KN192 was a paper cartridge type and definately the wrong type. My Tiger model is '01 955i, so I took the KN191 and endevoured to change the filter.



Now the previous oil & filter change was done by the Triumph dealer, I couldn't even budge the filter, I know it's a tight fit and all but I figured I could manage just to break the 'torque' of the seal, no way my friends was this puppy moving, maybe its a left-hand thread, so I rang the dealer no standard right hand thread. He suggests bringing it in and they'll use their special tool to loosen it. So of I go, get the filter 'loosen', get home and try again...no joy again! Now I'm really pissed off! So out comes the screwdriver and I pierce the filter and finally get the filter off.



Yes the KN191 oil filter fits an '01 955i model. It also has a 17mm nut on the bottom of the filter to enable tightening and loosening. Never again am I letting the dealer near my bike



Cheers

Mark
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Post by: PeteBrooks on May 26, 2005, 10:18:58 PM
QuoteYes the KN191 oil filter fits an '01 955i model. It also has a 17mm nut on the bottom of the filter to enable tightening and loosening. Never again am I letting the dealer near my bike



I can confirm the the KN191 does NOT fit a (my) 2002 955i Tiger. I have just tried, the lip is too big and as you spin it on the paint scrapes from the filter.
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