..in the Far East,Malaysia? Glancing thru 'Bike' earlier,I was shocked to read that stat :icon_scratch: I know its a financial reason,but from my perspective,'Triumph..made in Malaysia' doesn't quite have the same appeal.
What do you expect when we have successive governments trying to kill off motorcycling, soon there will be no point whatsoever to manufacture the other 40% here.
I thought this was going to be an adaptation of the old Harley joke: 60% of all Harleys made are still on the road. The other 40% made it home.... :icon_razz:
Quote from: threepot on September 30, 2013, 08:36:27 PM
..in the Far East,Malaysia? Glancing thru 'Bike' earlier
Hmmm...still waiting for mine to be delivered :icon_scratch:
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on September 30, 2013, 11:08:53 PM
I thought this was going to be an adaptation of the old Harley joke: 60% of all Harleys made are still on the road. The other 40% made it home.... :icon_razz:
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PeteH, sorry,didn't you read the small print :icon_study:..Made in Malaysia..pick it up in Malaysia :icon_smile:
"I never thought the Japs could build the CB750,and that Triumph's would one day be made in Malaysia"....Edward Turner. :icon_scratch:
Imagine how galling, rebuilding the Steamer in Singapore to get parts delivered from the UK marked made in Malaysia when I could see Malaysia from my apartment :icon_sad:
The Malaysian stuff is all the rubber stuff, seals, gaskets etc. Which makes sense as they still have a lot of rubber plantations over there. It's not just Triumph, Kawa have a factory in Malaysia. This doesn't mean I will be buying a Proton anytime soon though :icon_rolleyes:
A lot of the stuff for the Bonnies is made in Thailand too, as well as the wiring loom for my Girly.
The radiator for my Girly comes from Austria, a lot of the brake components from Japan etc etc.
All the manufacturers do it, when I went through the Ducati factory a few years back they were very proud that most of their castings were made in the local Bologna area, but a a lot of the rubber and plastic came from somewhere else.
I thought I read somewhere Triumph had a factory in Thailand. Apperently even more: currently its Thai factory assembles the 865 Twins, as well as the 675 and 1050 Triples (source (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/689/11346/Motorcycle-Article/Inside-Triumph-Motorcycles.aspx)).
Also found an article about Triumph closing a Thai plant, but turned out that had nothing to do with motorcycles :hat10
Reality of manufacturing, a CNC machining centre located in Malaysia will produce the same quality of parts as the same machine in the UK. There's not a lot of skilled work left in volume manufacturing. It's more about logistical costs, proximity to market, import export tariffs, tax breaks than labour cost as well as automation means that is a relatively small part of the total cost.
My '10 Thruxton was made in Thailand. Since it was the first Triumph I had owned I cannot comment except to say that to me its build quality was at least as good as bikes coming out of Japan.
I will be interested to see how Stanley compares, even given that fact he was built/made/constructed/created/put together (what IS the correct word?? :icon_lol:) in 1996.
FYI his po bought a new 800XC to replace him this summer and is quite disappointed with its build quality. Especially the plastics.
The Steamers "gestated" :icon_wink: the tank I believe was made Acerbis, not sure about the other bits, they were certainly over engineered compared to other makes of the period and most current bikes.
I have not had anything to complain about with my XC so far, they did have a bad batch of indicators from a sub supplier, reputedly Italian and a few have had blistered paint on the cylinder barrels but comparing that to most Japanese bikes with less than a third of the paint (dft) thickness (BIKE magazine did a survey a few years back) is not a lot to complain about.
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on December 12, 2013, 01:35:56 PM
The Steamers "gestated" :icon_wink:
Love the word. Has a nice ring to it. :icon_razz:
The Thais love customising their Bonnies.
There are some accessories that are not in the catalogue and only available locally :bad, thankfully my missus hadn't seen those options for the Trophy or that wouldn't get approval :augie
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on December 21, 2013, 05:46:10 PM
The Thais love customising their Bonnies.
Now, if the top one comes in red too she would look great sitting on Stanley :thumbsup
Question is how would your knackers look sitting on the mantlepiece :bug_eye
Sorry Sin, which one is you ?, think my eyesight must be failing.....
:icon_razz: there's always one :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: threepot on September 30, 2013, 08:36:27 PM
..in the Far East,Malaysia? Glancing thru 'Bike' earlier,I was shocked to read that stat :icon_scratch: I know its a financial reason,but from my perspective,'Triumph..made in Malaysia' doesn't quite have the same appeal.
I think typical of Bike mag they got it wrong. AFAIK Triumphs only other factory is in Thailand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_Motorcycles_Ltd
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on December 21, 2013, 07:41:27 PMQuestion is how would your knackers look sitting on the mantlepiece :bug_eye
I have a very tolerant sig.other. :augie
Quote from: nickjtc on December 12, 2013, 12:35:02 AM
FYI his po bought a new 800XC to replace him this summer and is quite disappointed with its build quality. Especially the plastics.
Plastics? On a 800XC? He should realize that Triumph made the XC to ride :wheel not to polish. I suspect the plastics he's referring to are the crash protection on the fuel tank and rad guards which Triumph deliberately made cheap so that it won't cost a fortune to replace after the inevitable tip off.
Quote from: blacktiger on January 10, 2014, 10:10:06 AMI suspect the plastics he's referring to are the crash protection on the fuel tank and rad guards which Triumph deliberately made cheap so that it won't cost a fortune to replace after the inevitable tip off.
That would make a lot of sense. I suppose he was spoilt by the fact that the Tigers plastics are very nicely done and seem to be of good quality. He had no issues with the dreaded plastic mis-alignment scenario on the bike.
Quote from: blacktiger on January 10, 2014, 10:10:06 AMPlastics? On a 800XC? He should realize that Triumph made the XC to ride :wheel not to polish.
Having said that, though, if a person was to buy an 800XC just for pose value, so that it never saw anything resembling 'off road' conditions, then perhaps they might expect better 'quality' in the plastic work.....
Quote from: nickjtc on January 10, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on January 10, 2014, 10:10:06 AMPlastics? On a 800XC? He should realize that Triumph made the XC to ride :wheel not to polish.
Having said that, though, if a person was to buy an 800XC just for pose value, so that it never saw anything resembling 'off road' conditions, then perhaps they might expect better 'quality' in the plastic work.....
The only time it's worth posing with an 800XC is when it's so covered in shit you couldn't see the plastics anyway. If you want to pose buy a Striple.
Quote from: blacktiger on January 10, 2014, 09:03:12 PM
The only time it's worth posing with an 800XC is when it's so covered in shit you couldn't see the plastics anyway. If you want to pose buy a Striple.
True. But over here one of the fastest growing segments in the motorcycle market place is that of 'adventure tourers', which like SUVs never see any dirt. It's increasingly common to see a fully loaded KTM Adventure/BMW 1200GS/V Strom et al with all the bells and whistles including aluminium panniers, used only to commute to and from work or to go down to the shops.
I'm thinking that the whole cruiser thing might be on the wane so those rich types who have lots of cash to blow on a bike are turning to other options.
Quote from: blacktiger on January 10, 2014, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: nickjtc on January 10, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on January 10, 2014, 10:10:06 AMPlastics? On a 800XC? He should realize that Triumph made the XC to ride :wheel not to polish.
Having said that, though, if a person was to buy an 800XC just for pose value, so that it never saw anything resembling 'off road' conditions, then perhaps they might expect better 'quality' in the plastic work.....
The only time it's worth posing with an 800XC is when it's so covered in shit you couldn't see the plastics anyway. If you want to pose buy a Striple.
I take umbrage at that my friend.
Firstly, I was too busy playing the hooligan on my striple, principally because I didn't have the skills for anything else, to pose.
Secondly, I'm quite happy with the appearance and quality of the plastics on my XC, although it's comforting to know they won't cost a fortune to replace and there isn't a lot of plastic on them anyway. :iagree a well used one with a few scrapes just adds character, I certainly don't spend a lot on Polish :nono
Nothing impresses me less than a pristine ADV (of any make but we all know which we see the most of :augie) sat outside a Starbucks looking like an advert for Touratech
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on January 11, 2014, 08:46:57 AM
Quote from: blacktiger on January 10, 2014, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: nickjtc on January 10, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: blacktiger on January 10, 2014, 10:10:06 AMPlastics? On a 800XC? He should realize that Triumph made the XC to ride :wheel not to polish.
Having said that, though, if a person was to buy an 800XC just for pose value, so that it never saw anything resembling 'off road' conditions, then perhaps they might expect better 'quality' in the plastic work.....
The only time it's worth posing with an 800XC is when it's so covered in shit you couldn't see the plastics anyway. If you want to pose buy a Harley.
I take umbrage at that my friend.
Firstly, I was too busy playing the hooligan on my striple, principally because I didn't have the skills for anything else, to pose.
Secondly, I'm quite happy with the appearance and quality of the plastics on my XC, although it's comforting to know they won't cost a fortune to replace and there isn't a lot of plastic on them anyway. :iagree a well used one with a few scrapes just adds character, I certainly don't spend a lot on Polish :nono
Nothing impresses me less than a pristine ADV (of any make but we all know which we see the most of :augie) sat outside a Starbucks looking like an advert for Touratech
Er, yeah, sorry about that. Corrected above.
If you want to pose buy a Harley.
Hard to pose on one of them when they are churning out 300,000 every year and (literally) every other bike on the road looks exactly the same. I freely admit that I am not a 'cruiser guy'; been there, done that. I prefer to go around corners without dragging anything.