My low mile (17,000) 2001 955 Tiger was feeling a little wallowy on my last ride, checked and the rebound damping was 3 clicks open it was acting more like 4 or 5 . Set it to 2 and will test it tomorrow. What seems to be the replacement shock of choice for the wire wheeled 955's. Seemed like choices were pretty limited and it seemed like they are not rebuild-able. I was actually pretty happy with the performance of the original.
Wilbers/Hyperpro/Hagon and the next decision is what spec to order it in,check the posts on here about riding without a remote res etc and do you need a remote preload.
Hi Chris,
I certainly need an easy way to adjust the preload so the remote is probably the way to go. Those names sound familiar and if I remember right you listed those in from highest to lowest (cost/quality). I will read up on it. Riding yesterday I stopped a little way into the ride to back the rebound damping down to 3 clicks from the 2 I set it at. It performed well the rest of the ride. It was pretty cool weather and didn't hit much that made it work very hard. My guess is it is still giving up the ghost.
If you had a brand new stock shock on and went aftermarket you would have somewhat of a surprise it's a vast gulf between them,don't get hung up on cost an all singing dancing Hagon isn't cheap and that's why I said compare spec not price,I wouldn't spend money on a shock that doesn't have a remote preload or a remote reservoir,without the first it'll be a hassle and without the second in the end over a distance it'll get hot and bothered.
I'm in the same boat needing a new shock.
Hagan does not offer a remote reservoir.
Quote from: brad1098 on October 15, 2013, 02:52:24 AM
I'm in the same boat needing a new shock.
Hagan does not offer a remote reservoir.
I knew that when posting I can only give an opinion and each individual has to make their own mind up based on needs and finance.
http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,12972.0.html
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 14, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
I wouldn't spend money on a shock that doesn't have a remote preload or a remote reservoir,
Neither would I:
(http://www.motorbazaar.nl/diversen/wilbers641hpa.jpg)
Supplier does ship overseas :icon_wink:
Wow. Purdy.
Luuuuucky......
:thumbsup
who in the US sells the Wilbers? I'm 6'2", 225 pounds and am planning an Alaska trip for next summer. I didn't see that one on the Hyperpro website. I've inquired about the racetech shock, and am just comparing prices at this point.
That one is a thing of beauty.
Quote from: cba191 on October 15, 2013, 08:21:41 PM
who in the US sells the Wilbers?
http://wilbersamerica.com/?gclid=COWOrfzEmboCFdFxOgodu1sA-A
Found this for Hyperpro
http://epmperf.com/price-lists/Shocks%2007-13.pdf
I thought I was looking at Wilbers, I suppose I just have to write for a quote for one like Dutch has shown?
Quote from: NortonCharlie on October 15, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
Found this for Hyperpro
http://epmperf.com/price-lists/Shocks%2007-13.pdf
I thought I was looking at Wilbers, I suppose I just have to write for a quote for one like Dutch has shown?
I've seen that one, but the only one I say was a fixed red.
Quote from: Mustang on October 15, 2013, 09:09:10 PM
Quote from: cba191 on October 15, 2013, 08:21:41 PM
who in the US sells the Wilbers?
http://wilbersamerica.com/?gclid=COWOrfzEmboCFdFxOgodu1sA-A
I shot them an email. Thanks.
Quote from: Dutch on October 15, 2013, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 14, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
I wouldn't spend money on a shock that doesn't have a remote preload or a remote reservoir,
Neither would I:
(http://www.motorbazaar.nl/diversen/wilbers641hpa.jpg)
Supplier does ship overseas :icon_wink:
The shock on my K1200 is like that but it's superseded by a shock with an integral res the same as an Ohlins.
Quality wise I don't think there's anything between the Wilbers and the Hyperpro,the only problem I can see with the Hyperpro is they are purple :icon_wink:
I got on the Wilbers site and it looks like for the wire wheeled 955 that you have a choice of
model 640-0630-00 for 499.00
model 641-0630-00 for 699.00
and the hydraulic preload is 625-0046-00 for 199.00 all prices in Euros I believe.
If I am not mistaken the 641 has the remote reservoir.
So everything all out $950.00 + $270.00 =$1220 plus whatever it takes to get it here. About $250 less without the remote reservoir. That sounds like a lot but really not to bad.
Do those numbers sound about right?
Quote from: Dutch on October 15, 2013, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 14, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
I wouldn't spend money on a shock that doesn't have a remote preload or a remote reservoir,
Neither would I:
(http://www.motorbazaar.nl/diversen/wilbers641hpa.jpg)
Supplier does ship overseas :icon_wink:
$1099 from wilbersamerica.com. 3-4 week lead time. Now to determine if it's worth the cash.
Is it worth the cash is not the way to look at it,first question is how long do you intend to keep the bike,second if you saw a shock for sale on here for $750 would you buy it???,I suggest yes which means if buying new all your doing is renting it :icon_lol:,there's only ever been one forsale and that was Timbox's and it sold straight away,so it's not like you'll struggle to sell it.
My question?? why is everything cheaper in the States,the Wilbers on my K were bought secondhand by me and the guy who bought e'm new got them in the States, Germany/America/Uk and still cheaper than buying them here!!!!! :icon_scratch:
vat? we're cheap bastards? people used to like us? i really don't know.
All I do know is that the Dalton Highway will probably blow up the stock shock that is on the bike now. lol
"$1099 from wilbersamerica.com. 3-4 week lead time. Now to determine if it's worth the cash. "
Is that like shown with remote reservoir and hydraulic preload? Sound like a good deal to me.
I think I understand what I am getting into. Would you tell me if I am right.
Going to this type of shock I should be able to get a ride similar to what I had with my original shock but have it do a better job of keeping the tire on the ground, better stability and better consistency under hard use?
Is there nothing that can be converted to work, something from a ktm or Yamaha or something? Thats alot of cash for me and i would love to keep the bike for a while, but the rear is starting to sag and get soft.
Quote from: NortonCharlie on October 16, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
"$1099 from wilbersamerica.com. 3-4 week lead time. Now to determine if it's worth the cash. "
Is that like shown with remote reservoir and hydraulic preload? Sound like a good deal to me.
I think I understand what I am getting into. Would you tell me if I am right.
Going to this type of shock I should be able to get a ride similar to what I had with my original shock but have it do a better job of keeping the tire on the ground, better stability and better consistency under hard use?
You have no idea what you are getting into!!! but you will when you go for your first ride.
Will you get a ride similar to what you had with the original?? that'll be a no!! thanks heavens.
Quote from: gawoody83 on October 16, 2013, 04:39:04 PM
Is there nothing that can be converted to work, something from a ktm or Yamaha or something? Thats alot of cash for me and i would love to keep the bike for a while, but the rear is starting to sag and get soft.
I'm sure you asked in all sincerity but it like asking if your front door key will fit next doors house because it's a key which looks the same :icon_wink:
You best look for a secondhand original with low miles or just hope a secondhand aftermarket one turns up and even then you'll to make sure it's sprung for your weight,if your 170lbs it'll be no good expecting a shock that's sprung for a 225lb guy to work because it won't,you'll need it revalving and a new spring.
Quote from: NortonCharlie on October 16, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
"$1099 from wilbersamerica.com. 3-4 week lead time. Now to determine if it's worth the cash. "
Is that like shown with remote reservoir and hydraulic preload? Sound like a good deal to me.
I think I understand what I am getting into. Would you tell me if I am right.
Going to this type of shock I should be able to get a ride similar to what I had with my original shock but have it do a better job of keeping the tire on the ground, better stability and better consistency under hard use?
just like the pic shows. Talked to Ted at wilbersamerica (the beemershop owner). He seems lime a great guy. He also mentioned that he's been getting a lot more Triumph business lately :)
he asks for a $300 deposit, and the rest is due at shipping (3-4 weeks)
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 16, 2013, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: NortonCharlie on October 16, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
You have no idea what you are getting into!!! but you will when you go for your first ride.
Will you get a ride similar to what you had with the original?? that'll be a no!! thanks heavens.
Yea yea yea, I get it, I will be amazed by the difference. :icon_biggrin: What I don't want is something that always feels like I am setup for a track day. I still want to go play on the twisties and a little in the dirt and I also want to be able to load up with 250 lbs of gear and and feel good doing 600 mile days or 300 miles on 2 track trails. The original did a fair job in all those situations. Will this one do a better job on all?
YES!
I'd go and buy another stock shock,the idea of you never knowing what you've missed appeals to me :icon_wink:
I had a conversation with Timbox not so long back about all this stuff,it's not the 'Is the cost worth it' 'Will I noticed the difference' blah blah blah it's the after when you get 'I can't believe the difference and how good it is and I didn't realise how crap the stock shock was'
Now that really does get on my tits :icon_biggrin:
I have a mate with a VFR800 who I'd been plaguing for years to put a decent shock on and after it was fitted told me he had a complaint 'Whats that I ask' you should have been trying harder to convince me I've missed years of riding without one :icon_evil: :icon_evil: :icon_evil:
Quote from: John Stenhouse on October 16, 2013, 11:13:11 PM
YES!
That is the answer I was looking for, hopefully it was to my question. I don't mind spending the $1200, was really expecting more. I think Chris might be telling me the same thing. Hard for this simple mind to decipher. Might need to invest in some valves for the forks next.
I haven't said anything about the forks because you'll very quickly work that out for yourself,it was John who said you'll be 10mph quicker everywhere and you will and more,but soon realise the squidgy forks can't cope with the new well planted rear end,at very least you'll needs springs and 15wt how much is a matter of taste.
Never comes across well on a one make board,but scratch the surface(with a few mods) of our old 955 and underneath is a dam good bike(still)
Quote from: NortonCharlie on October 15, 2013, 11:22:16 PM
I got on the Wilbers site and it looks like for the wire wheeled 955 that you have a choice of
model 640-0630-00 for 499.00
model 641-0630-00 for 699.00
and the hydraulic preload is 625-0046-00 for 199.00 all prices in Euros I believe.
If I am not mistaken the 641 has the remote reservoir.
So everything all out $950.00 + $270.00 =$1220 plus whatever it takes to get it here. About $250 less without the remote reservoir. That sounds like a lot but really not to bad.
Do those numbers sound about right?
You are correct. The 640 is the emulsion shock, the 641 is the shock with remote reservoir and compression also adjustable. Prices include 19% German VAT, you don't have to pay that on export. So that makes at today's exchange rate US$ 1050. Considering the shipment cost and banking charges (those %$! still take an arm and a legg :icon_mad: ) to the US the $ 1099 isn't unreasonable.
Mine is for a spoke wheel Girly, length adjustment isn't an option. For the wire wheel this is possible (+ $ 56).
All Wilbers (and Hyperpro etc) are made to customer specifications, so if you tell them you ride it on trails they will give it settings suitable for that. Also your weight, that of a pillon and/or luggage is taken into account.
Shocks from another bike will not due to the simple fact that most bikes have a link system while on the Girly the shock is placed directly on the swing arm.
they are height adjustable as well?
For the wire wheel Girly length adjustment (0-10 mm) is an option. Cost is about $ 56.
Quote from: cba191 on October 17, 2013, 11:26:28 AM
they are height adjustable as well?
Don't go thinking it's like an ajustable seat the ride height adjuster is for adjusting how quickly the bike steers not you getting your feet on the ground although it may help a little bit but that's not what it is there for,and I'd question if you need it because you'll get the same results dropping the forks through the clamps.
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 17, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Don't go thinking it's like an ajustable seat the ride height adjuster is for adjusting how quickly the bike steers not you getting your feet on the ground although it may help a little bit but that's not what it is there for,and I'd question if you need it because you'll get the same results dropping the forks through the clamps.
The Wilbers is also available different length than standard. So you could for example order one -10 mm with height adjustment. That way it is possible to go back to original lenght. To do so by the way you have to get the shock out of the bike.
Small adjustments can be made using the spring preload. It is not meant to set the bike higher or lower, but a bit is possible without ending up with too little or too much preload.
That makes more sense.
I bought a shortened Hagon and dropped the forks through the yokes so the steering geometry stays the same. It feels like sitting in it rather than on it, but I get my feet down more easily. If doing a longer trip I put my Airhawk on the seat and I'm back where I started. But more comfortable. :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: cba191 on October 17, 2013, 05:25:55 PM
That makes more sense.
It might make sense you,but I'd pay good money to watch you guys with one of these shocks,remote preload separate compression and rebound now you want to deal with a variable shock length :icon_eek:,thats a mighty black hole your looking into,oh and of course you have the fork adjustment to take into consideration,I'm all for after market suspension but there's a line in the sand and after that it's mud and alligators if your not carefull or more to the point know what you want.
Precisely why I lowered the front the same amount as the back Chris. I took some height measurements before and after fitting the Hagon and dropped the front the same amount. The Hagon is set up for my weight (which made the first ride with a lot of extra weight interesting) so all is well. The front still behaves the way it always has, the back - you can tell the Hagon is a shorter and progressive as it's quite pliant over small bumps and holes but firms up if the surface is rougher. I've not touched the damping, it seems fine to me.
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 17, 2013, 07:10:27 PM
Quote from: cba191 on October 17, 2013, 05:25:55 PM
That makes more sense.
It might make sense you,but I'd pay good money to watch you guys with one of these shocks,remote preload separate compression and rebound now you want to deal with a variable shock length :icon_eek:,thats a mighty black hole your looking into,oh and of course you have the fork adjustment to take into consideration,I'm all for after market suspension but there's a line in the sand and after that it's mud and alligators if your not carefull or more to the point know what you want.
the thing is, once it's set, you don't mess with it. I hate messing with adjustments. Ideally, everything will be just the way I want it when it shows up. On my old bike, with the ohlins, the only thing I ever touched was the preload.
That's the joy of a custom shock no matter who's made it.
Revs Racing in Halesowen has quoted me £700 for a Wilbers shock set up for my weight and to re build the forks with new Wilber internals and lower the bike if I want it lowered.
The guy went through a lot of things for me with no sales pitch other than saying it will transform your bike,
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Quote from: Spud on October 19, 2013, 09:42:05 AM
Revs Racing in Halesowen has quoted me £700 for a Wilbers shock set up for my weight and to re build the forks with new Wilber internals and lower the bike if I want it lowered.
The guy went through a lot of things for me with no sales pitch other than saying it will transform your bike,
cheers Spud :thumbsup
Well he doesn't need to do a sales pitch cuz he's the only bloke who sells e'm :icon_biggrin: it's called a captive market!! but for 700 quid including the forks you won't be getting a shock like what we have been talking about on here,Timbox paid £850 for the shock alone and that was a few years ago and from the same person.
This is the trap so many fall into concentrating on price!!! check the spec.
His quote was for a shock built to my size and weight with remote preload res and sorting the forks out to match. the lowest price he quoted for a rear shock was £280 + vat. I never specified a price bracket.
cheers Spud :thumbsup
What model shock was that.
Quote from: Spud on October 19, 2013, 12:00:52 PM
remote preload res
Preload reservoir? A 640 emulsion type shock? Or a 641 with remote reservoir AND hydraulic preload? Is that price in or ex VAT? That can also be a nice confusion in discussions ;)
@BB, i'd suggest you play a bit with the damping. Specially with the Hagon it is easy to keep track of what you do, so if you don't like it you can always go back.
It'll include vat but I was interested to see if it was a 642,but regardless that's good money with the forks as well.
Wilbers with remote preload and Wilbers fork internals.
cheers Spud :thumbsup
A 640 then. @Chris: for the cast wheel Wilbers has all three shocks available: 640 without remote reservoir, 641 with reservoir on hose and 642 with piggy back reservoir. The 642 being a tad more expensive than the 641.
Is there a difference between the 885I shock and the 955I? Length, spring rates or valving?
Quote from: gawoody83 on October 21, 2013, 04:04:16 PM
Is there a difference between the 885I shock and the 955I? Length, spring rates or valving?
99/2004 same shock,having had both it's a really strange comparison because they share so many parts and yet feel so different.
Quote from: Dutch on October 21, 2013, 02:29:01 PM
A 640 then. @Chris: for the cast wheel Wilbers has all three shocks available: 640 without remote reservoir, 641 with reservoir on hose and 642 with piggy back reservoir. The 642 being a tad more expensive than the 641.
It's the reason I asked the 642 in my book is a proper shock all integral like it should be having a separate res(641) is a real pain in the ass something else to strap on the frame!!!
Will the 642 fit an '02?
You would have to ask but I see no reason why not as it's the same as my Ohlins,another story really and I'll keep it clean as the conversation was politically incorrect but at a WSB meeting afew years ago in Germany I had a conversation with the Ohlins importer who really went on a rant about Wilbers being such a copy you could even change the internal parts over like for like but he said it slightly different to that :icon_lol:
The reason I ask is that Ted, the guy at wilbersamerica, said the remote red is the one wilbers recommends for the Girly. But the recommended yacugar shock is of the piggyback variety.
Are there any upgraded springs available for these shocks? Or is it non servicable?
Quote from: gawoody83 on October 21, 2013, 06:02:06 PM
Are there any upgraded springs available for these shocks? Or is it non servicable?
Strange question!! non serviceable are you kidding you can strip e'm to th bare bones and back,any spring you like but when you order they ask your weight do you carry a passenger? their weight,do you carry luggage and how much and after all that how fast do you ride hence when they come they are bang on.
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 21, 2013, 05:29:01 PM
You would have to ask but I see no reason why not as it's the same as my Ohlins,another story really and I'll keep it clean as the conversation was politically incorrect but at a WSB meeting afew years ago in Germany I had a conversation with the Ohlins importer who really went on a rant about Wilbers being such a copy you could even change the internal parts over like for like but he said it slightly different to that :icon_lol:
Wilbers doesn't list a 642 (piggy back) for the wire wheel Girly, I have no information about the reason behind this. So cannot comment it it would be possible or not. As for parts being interchangable, did I mention before the shock world is a bit Hillbilly?
I guess it's a bit like the food industry and most other industries: ideas get copied, private label manufacturing etc. etc. :hat10
Quote from: cba191 on October 21, 2013, 05:34:39 PM
The reason I ask is that Ted, the guy at wilbersamerica, said the remote red is the one wilbers recommends for the Girly. But the recommended yacugar shock is of the piggyback variety.
It something you'll have to discuss with him but I have a 641 on my K1200 it doesn't have the remote res(which means I don't have separate compression and rebound) which is an absolute ball ache,I don't do heaps of mileage on it so I have to grin and bare it because I have a combined compression and rebound like the crappy Triumph shock,I've been meaning to get the res added the importer is only 20 minutes down the road but if I can get some kind of deal done will buy a 642 with it being integral just less hassle to fit and everything is in the shock, except the preload adjuster.
I only add all this because I have learned from my mistakes,when I bought my Wilbers secondhand thought good shocks come with a remote res :icon_redface: :icon_redface:
Quote from: Dutch on October 21, 2013, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 21, 2013, 05:29:01 PM
You would have to ask but I see no reason why not as it's the same as my Ohlins,another story really and I'll keep it clean as the conversation was politically incorrect but at a WSB meeting afew years ago in Germany I had a conversation with the Ohlins importer who really went on a rant about Wilbers being such a copy you could even change the internal parts over like for like but he said it slightly different to that :icon_lol:
Wilbers doesn't list a 642 (piggy back) for the wire wheel Girly, I have no information about the reason behind this. So cannot comment it it would be possible or not. As for parts being interchangable, did I mention before the shock world is a bit Hillbilly?
I guess it's a bit like the food industry and most other industries: ideas get copied, private label manufacturing etc. etc. :hat10
K. Thank you. I guess I'll have to "settle" for the remote res when I order it tomorrow. :)
Quote from: Chris Canning on October 21, 2013, 07:13:55 PM
I have a 641 on my K1200 it doesn't have the remote res
Unless I have something very wrong the remote reservoir is the key marker for a 641. You probably have the 640 emulsion type, which is a very decent shock for most bikes and uses.
I've checked the box it doesn't say but regardless it's a pain in the arse with no separate compression rebound.
I have been quoted nearly a grand for the same combination of shock and fork spring upgrades from the Halesowen Chappie, looking around for better quotes now though. The 642 with the hydrabollock adjuster seems top notch :thumbsup even though it is the priciest at @840 poonds :bug_eye
The problem being he's the UK importer although of recent I've noticed a guy down south selling Wilbers on ebay and may be in the same situation as the Ohlins importer(Harris) they have to stick to a price and people they supply are cheaper,try our Dutch contact on here and mine on the k1200 came via America they were cheaper!!,I didn't buy e'm new but I know the guy who did hence he told me the story.
If you look on German Ebay there's a Wilbers(wire wheel) on there with all the bells and Whistles but looks a bit scabby and may have had a hard life plus you'll have to check what weight spring is on it,oh and there's a Hagon on UK ebay.
I have been doing some research and now have Hyperpro, YSS, MC (EMC?) and Wilbers on the menu. For a Hyperpro Calsoprt have quoted me for the fully adjustable shock with adjustable high & low speed compression, adjustable rebound and hydraulic preload £845 or without hydraulic preload for £645. I ain't too keen on Hydraulic pre load as they seem to be a tad gimmicky and expensive! All of the dealers I have had comms with have been helpful to say the least :icon_salut:. I will also install linear springs on the front legs, common sense really :nod.
Not keen on a hydraulic preload :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: you are kidding me,a gimmick :icon_scratch: wait till your fannying about on the side of the road with your C spanner and you can hear all the grit on the thread when your moving the locking rings your hands cover in shit just skinned your knuckles because the spanner slipped off :icon_lol: 200 quids worth of difference you'll be prepared to have paid double :icon_wink:,plus when you can hop off the bike and do it in 3 seconds flat and the resale will be zilch without one.
Did Cal sport say they'll need your weight etc.
Don't forget to change the oil weight a decent rear shock will over power the stock front end.
okaaaaay, maybe I will then! :bowdown I took it for granted that Calsport wanted my weights, they were going to be informed of them anyways :augie. I am still undecided but the Hyperpro is slightly ahead of Wilbers, the YSS had my interest, even though they are made in Thailand (Triumph :bad) but the shop, Kamar, did mention he had to refer to Holland for a final setup/combination price.
Doesn't matter which one you go for,more down to back up or the colour of the spring :icon_lol:,which ever one you buy will be a billion light years better than the crap stock one.
The down side of what you are doing it's an addiction,the VFR guy I have mentioned before who fitted a Wilbers and had a Dymag front wheel has thought about the new VFR but knows full well that he'll be back to a stocker that needs sorting,and hence why I've still got my Tiger despite trying to find an option.
I had my Speed Triple sorted a while ago and thought the same but you can always remove the farkle shocks and fleabay them if you ditch the bike or sell it returned to oem.
One of my winter projects is here. :XXsunsmile
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_uTxfL9ov_A/UrUtuCWySNI/AAAAAAAABKM/d24qj5mudPQ/w1536-h865-no/5c5d73ba-d8a2-4961-9f99-16140cb3628b)
Mmmm, Christmas toys!
I know all about shocks on it's last legs :icon_lol:
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Quote from: cba191 on December 21, 2013, 07:02:19 AM
One of my winter projects is here. :XXsunsmile
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What did you go with and what was the cost if you don't mins sharing.
They are the Wilbers. I'm not sure the exact model #. I called and talked to Ted at "the Beemer shop". We talked about the bike, my riding, and a bunch of other things and this is what we came up with. It took about 20-30 minutes to order. I was surprised how thorough he was. After it was all said and done, I was about $1200 lighter.
Thanks, while I do not argue the need for a major upgrade on the ol girl. The $1,200 hurts. That's the entire value of my 84 CT110. Seems like a crappy trade.
Quote from: brad1098 on January 12, 2014, 03:51:32 PM
Thanks, while I do not argue the need for a major upgrade on the ol girl. The $1,200 hurts. That's the entire value of my 84 CT110. Seems like a crappy trade.
That's the problem with doing it to an old bike,you have to ask yourself if your in it for the long haul divide the price by ex number of years and it gets cheaper
I'm stressing a bit. I got the swing arm off, so I was able to remove the lower mounting bolt. I'm just scared of damaging something when I drive out the sleeves. Do the sleeves fill the whole diameter if the tube? Do I want a drift that fills the opening as completely as possible?
Quote from: cba191 on January 12, 2014, 10:51:20 PM
I'm stressing a bit. I got the swing arm off, so I was able to remove the lower mounting bolt. I'm just scared of damaging something when I drive out the sleeves. Do the sleeves fill the whole diameter if the tube? Do I want a drift that fills the opening as completely as possible?
http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,3683.msg21441.html#msg21441
Thank you for the link Mustang. He was exactly where I am right now. I bought some drifts, and I'm going in. I just don't want to break anything. Do you recommend that I do the swing arm bearings while it's off?
only if they need it .......................
24000 miles?
drift isn't working. i was thinking about taking the swingarm to a shop, but I could buy a a 12 ton press from harbor freight for less than what a shop would charge. :)
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-ton-a-frame-industrial-heavy-duty-floor-shop-press-1667.html
(http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_18324.jpg)
If you have room you'll never regret buying the press. But then you'll need bespoke mandrels and collars for each bearing/sleeve/etc you press out/in so now you'll need a lathe.... and so it goes on :thumbsup
:iagree depends on your budget and the space available in your man Castle, oh and directors approval :nono
Even with the press, that thing is NOT wanting to budge. What am I doing wrong?
try pushing it out the other direction , maybe it's tapered ?
I'll give that a shot. I didn't even think of that. Nothing I've read mentioned that as a possibility.
Check the outer diameters at each end, that should a clue as to whether it's tapered or has a step in it. No evidence of grub screws hidden by muck or locking compound along the outside.?
I'll definitely check both those things. I'd hate to have bought a press only to still have to take the thing to a shop.
Crap. It's a no go. I wonder how much a shop would charge to get it out. The press is really unstable, but about the only thing it would be good for is breaking beads on a tire. How is harbor freight's return policy? I'll even let them keep all the hardware I bought to actually get it put together.
I feel shame.
took the swing arm to the shop. $96/hr. Hopefully it won't take more than an hour.
Quote from: cba191 on January 16, 2014, 09:39:11 PM
I feel shame.
took the swing arm to the shop. $96/hr. Hopefully it won't take more than an hour.
probably take a few minutes of set-up and the reality is........... it will take them less than a minute to actually push the sleeve out .
Yep. I hope that they are decent human beings and don't screw me over. I just don't want to waste another weekend on it. I still have the electrical, the new aux lights, and the forks to do. I'm also goi g to install a scottoiler. Too much to do and not enough time. The killer is that this weekend looks like it might be good riding weather. :(
Don't be, you live and learn mate. I suspect your difficulty may have been less than exact dowels making the alignment a problem for you. Those little presses come in handy for a lot of things that you might not originally have considered, so that's not necessarily money wasted either.
Harbor freight has a 90 day return policy. I'll probably return it just because it wasn't able to perform adequately for the one job I wanted it to do.
I'm sure I used to have a sticky on this subject.
Anyway, FYI, you can easily make a puller to extract that bush.
Get some 10mm studding. Enough to reach from one side of the pivot to the other plus about 150mm, 6".
Screw on a couple of nuts onto one end and tighten them against each other.
Grid the nuts round to about 15mm diameter so that they'll fit through the hole in the swingarm.
You'll end up with it looking like this.
(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/black955tiger/TIGER%20955i/REAR%20SHOCK/IMG_1711.jpg) (http://s396.photobucket.com/user/black955tiger/media/TIGER%20955i/REAR%20SHOCK/IMG_1711.jpg.html)
To use it you'll also need a piece of wood, 2"x 2", drill a 12mm/1/2" hole through the wood. Then you push the studding through and wind out the bush with a large spanner. Picture paints a thousand words.
(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/black955tiger/TIGER%20955i/REAR%20SHOCK/IMG_1710.jpg) (http://s396.photobucket.com/user/black955tiger/media/TIGER%20955i/REAR%20SHOCK/IMG_1710.jpg.html)