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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: fraserdog on October 29, 2013, 11:11:59 PM

Title: Fuel line extensions
Post by: fraserdog on October 29, 2013, 11:11:59 PM
I'm contemplating checking/ balancing the throttle bodies,what is the best way to extend the fuel lines,what fittings will I need? Mine has the flow and return pipes (2002)
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: metalguru on October 30, 2013, 12:32:18 PM
The memory is a bit vague as not done one of these for a while, from what I do remember I turned the tank through 90 and supported the front on a portable workbench so the fuel pipes could be connected.

Be very careful if you have the original plastic connectors as they can shear off, change to metal ones.
When disconnecting or connecting lines be careful of the release catch as it can 'shave' the o ring seal.

If balancing the TBs it is a good idea to calibrate the guages first as the balance needs to be exact.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: NortonCharlie on October 30, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
I bought a set of extension lines from Triumph, I was either feeling very lazy or they were fairly reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: fraserdog on October 30, 2013, 06:02:35 PM
I have just checked and I have steel elbow connections,i have a Carbtune balancing set(mercury columns) so I don't think calibration will be necessary.A set of Triumph extension hoses is £70 odd and I can't see paying that for how much I might actually use them,is there a special name for the connections or is there a standard hydraulic connection the same so I can just add some hose to them?.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Chris Canning on October 30, 2013, 06:23:43 PM
There was a new set on ebay a while back can't remember if they sold bad memory  :icon_scratch: but might Triumph Taunton.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: SilverTiger on October 31, 2013, 09:43:24 AM
You might not need fuel line extensions - I certainly didn't when I balanced the throttle bodies on my '06 Girly in the summer.  Watch the triangular-shaped thingy (IACV) doesn't dismantle itself like mine did during balancing!  I carefully placed the tank to the left of the bike (when viewed from the rear) and mounted it on an adjustable-height bar stool I happened to have lying around. It was quite close to the bike but wasn't a problem, I just didn't need the extensions at all.  Although my TBs weren't far out of balance it made a noticeable difference doing this job, it felt much smoother afterwards. I cleaned out the air filter at the same time.  Cheers.  Ian.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Bixxer Bob on October 31, 2013, 10:29:32 AM
AS Ian says, and I keep banging on about, balancing the TBs is the single best thing you can do to these bikes.  Balance is critical.  I haven't commented on the hoses because mine is the single hose variety.  But on mine, I put my workmate to the right, with a board big enough to take the tank clamped to it.  The tank is right up close to the bike, cut the zip ties that hold the hose and the loom to the frame so that the hose and the fuel pump can be connected, no extensions needed.  Do the balance.

I'm not sure how your IACV dismantled itself Ian, the only time I had that was cycling it while off the bike.  What exactly did you do???
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: fraserdog on October 31, 2013, 10:58:50 AM
I was more concerned as mine has the 2 pipe system that perhaps they wouldn't reach.I have a spare set of throttle bodies/injectors from a single pipe system and was toying with fitting these but what would I have to do with the return pipe on the pump assembly,could I just blank it off do you reckon?
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Bixxer Bob on October 31, 2013, 01:51:18 PM
I'm not familiar with yours so can't comment.  There are a few on here that have had both models that could probably say.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Chris Canning on October 31, 2013, 02:05:16 PM
Put another pump(latter version) in the tank they fit all the same.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: iansoady on November 06, 2013, 05:42:57 PM
I have a pair of hoses you're welcome to for cost of postage plus a pint.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Chris Canning on November 06, 2013, 07:00:21 PM
And if the above doesn't have e'm I will assuming you still live at the same house!!
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: fraserdog on November 06, 2013, 07:52:51 PM
Quote from: iansoady on November 06, 2013, 05:42:57 PM
I have a pair of hoses you're welcome to for cost of postage plus a pint.

PM sent.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Chris Canning on November 06, 2013, 11:13:03 PM
Soon sparked him into life  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: iansoady on November 07, 2013, 12:19:30 PM
Even though I am now a wee-strom owner I like to help out where I can...... :love10
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Bixxer Bob on November 07, 2013, 04:51:17 PM
Thought you'd gone big bad beemer :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: iansoady on November 08, 2013, 01:05:04 PM
No that must be somebody else. I "downsized" as after a replacement knee the Tiger just felt a bit overwhelming.... I did consider a Tiger 800 but just too ugly for me.

I really like the Wee but miss the big triple.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Bixxer Bob on November 10, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
I was looking at a dressed-up 650 Versys on Friday,  seems to tick all the boxes, cheap, powerful enough (just) light  and fun.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: metalguru on November 10, 2013, 07:03:02 PM
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on November 10, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
I was looking at a dressed-up 650 Versys on Friday,  seems to tick all the boxes, cheap, powerful enough (just) light  and fun.

Go for a ride........That will seal the Tigers fate to stay in your ownership!!!!
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: Bixxer Bob on November 11, 2013, 11:26:14 AM
I know, I was being seduced by looks.  I like quirky.  Then I get on the Tigger again and decide I can live with the looks and keep the 3-4 grand in the bank.
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: SilverTiger on November 11, 2013, 11:56:48 AM
BB, I've only just seen your response to my bit about my IACV falling apart when I balanced my throttle bodies.  When I did that job in early August I followed the 'How to' on this site step by step.  The IACV was removed from its mounting by undoing two screws, and the vacuum pipes were removed from the throttle bodies.  From memory I then just moved it to one side on the engine while doing the balancing job.  When finished I noticed the IACV plunger part and spring had forced themselves out of their housing.  It took me a while to work out how to get it back together, I seem to remember posting on here when I was doing the job.  Anyway, after some persuasion and crossed fingers I got it back together without b*ggering it up.  Then I went and did a 3000 miler through France, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Slovenia and Croatia and it was a smoothe as a baby's bum and averaged 50mpg :-)

This is the original thread I started when servicing the bike in July : http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,12827.0.html    looks like I left the electrical connection on the IACV - should I have disconnected it for TB balancing? 
Title: Re: Fuel line extensions
Post by: metalguru on November 11, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
As a rule it should be sufficient to leave the IACV connected electrically and just remove the flexy pipes to the TBs.

For the benefit of others, there are 4 connections available on the IACV but only 3 are live.
Clean the IACV port with a silicon/Teflon cleaner not WD40.
Finally when balancing TBs, the balance needs to be EXACT or vibrations will occur.

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