Trying to get the old girl started today after winter laid up in my workshop.bike wont turn over,battery is a motobatt mbtx12u and has been on an optimate 4 over winter it shows the two green lights that say battery is ok,all other electrics work ie headlamps bright and horn etc,put my meter across battery and with no load i have 12.6 volts,when i turn ignition on fuel pump primes head lamps on i get 11.9,when i press starter button it just clicks and im getting 12 volts with headlamps dimming,im thinking new battery time its 4 years old,shoud i be seeing nearer to 14 volts on a good one :icon_confused:any help asap cheers
Quote from: exchead on March 02, 2014, 11:52:07 AM
Trying to get the old girl started today after winter laid up in my workshop.bike wont turn over,battery is a motobatt mbtx12u and has been on an optimate 4 over winter it shows the two green lights that say battery is ok,all other electrics work ie headlamps bright and horn etc,put my meter across battery and with no load i have 12.6 volts,when i turn ignition on fuel pump primes head lamps on i get 11.9,when i press starter button it just clicks and im getting 12 volts with headlamps dimming,im thinking new battery time its 4 years old,shoud i be seeing nearer to 14 volts on a good one :icon_confused:any help asap cheers
bike is running now,jumped it off a car battery,only showing 11.6 volts running with lights etc,im deffo thinking battery now :icon_eek:
If it's 11.6 when it's running the charging circuit is snafu. Regulator/rectifier time
Quote from: John Stenhouse on March 02, 2014, 02:18:28 PM
If it's 11.6 when it's running the charging circuit is snafu. Regulator/rectifier time
ive got a receipt for a reg/rec from last owner who changed it last year
Quote from: exchead on March 02, 2014, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: John Stenhouse on March 02, 2014, 02:18:28 PM
If it's 11.6 when it's running the charging circuit is snafu. Regulator/rectifier time
ive got a receipt for a reg/rec from last owner who changed it last year
doesn't matter if he put 10 of em in last year ................running , even with dead battery, should show at least 13 volts . your reg/rectifier is toast again .
:nod
And get the mosfet one from Electrex (the one with the extra purple wire) it's the same price and far better than the old style.
Before you order it, if you can follow these simple instructions, you might save yourself long long term grief:
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=electrex%20world%20stator%20testing&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.electrexworld.co.uk%2Facatalog%2FTroubleshooting-3P-PMG-%26-RR.pdf&ei=_E8TU8HPMsKqhQe3oIHoBg&usg=AFQjCNEMwzgn7EtLEjdmwWefgu9jUJlIXg
thanks for help,looks like a tight fit to get unbolted is it battery tray and tank off again
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on March 02, 2014, 04:40:18 PM
:nod
And get the mosfet one from Electrex (the one with the extra purple wire) it's the same price and far better than the old style.
Electrex must have updated that fairly recently. They never used to do a MOSFET one. I had to order one from the States when I last changed it.
Chris Canning and I both bought ours around the end of last summer so they've been doing them a while now.
Infact they do two different options,tech is even catching up with the old bangers :icon_biggrin:
I tried mine for a couple of minutes when I fitted it and it was errrr a shock :icon_eek: the difference in how the motor ran but since then which has been some time ago the bike has been in pieces waiting for my Ohlins to be rebuilt and the bike is almost back together.
Quote from: Chris Canning on March 03, 2014, 05:03:25 PM
Infact they do two different options,tech is even catching up with the old bangers :icon_biggrin:
I tried mine for a couple of minutes when I fitted it and it was errrr a shock :icon_eek: the difference in how the motor ran but since then which has been some time ago the bike has been in pieces waiting for my Ohlins to be rebuilt and the bike is almost back together.
what options are they is there a heavier duty one etc
There you go.
http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,13044.msg95804.html#msg95804
And my two penneth:
http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,13138.msg96489.html#msg96489
Started mine up today after it's been spread all over the garage floor for 5 months in pieces and it ran like a Swiss watch :icon_biggrin:
Quote from: Chris Canning on March 04, 2014, 11:35:28 PM
Started mine up today after it's been spread all over the garage floor for 5 months in pieces and it ran like a Swiss watch :icon_biggrin:
Does that mean you didn't manage to sort out the ticking noise :icon_wink: or does it make a cuckoo noise when you back off the throttle :icon_lol:
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on March 05, 2014, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: Chris Canning on March 04, 2014, 11:35:28 PM
Started mine up today after it's been spread all over the garage floor for 5 months in pieces and it ran like a Swiss watch :icon_biggrin:
Does that mean you didn't manage to sort out the ticking noise :icon_wink: or does it make a cuckoo noise when you back off the throttle :icon_lol:
It means I keep it nice and clean and then I don't have to F about with it as much as some do :icon_lol:
right a little update on my battery charging problems,checked out the fuse box and fuse 2 the 30 amp one has got hot and welded itself to fuse box, managed to get it out and changed it volts are now up when running to 13.4,what does this fuse cover as bike will run without it fitted,am i still looking at reg replacement?
Reg is ok at those volts, lucky man. It's rarely that simple. Make sure you give it all a good clean and protect with dielectric grease.
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on March 06, 2014, 01:59:48 PM
Reg is ok at those volts, lucky man. It's rarely that simple. Make sure you give it all a good clean and protect with dielectric grease.
thanks for info i assume fuse 2 covers the charging side of things from regulator
Haynes wiring diagram doesn't identify the fuses by number but the charging circuit fuse has brown wire going to and from it so if number 2 is brown both ways, that's it.
Edit: Checked the Triumph diagram; fuse 2 is the charging circuit and feeds the battery via the main fuse outside the battery box so I recommend checking and cleaning that one too if you haven't already.
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on March 06, 2014, 11:53:30 PM
Haynes wiring diagram doesn't identify the fuses by number but the charging circuit fuse has brown wire going to and from it so if number 2 is brown both ways, that's it.
Edit: Checked the Triumph diagram; fuse 2 is the charging circuit and feeds the battery via the main fuse outside the battery box so I recommend checking and cleaning that one too if you haven't already.
main fuse on side of battery box shows no signs of getting hot like fuse 2 in box on top of bike :thumbsup
Well slap me down :bug_eye
Riding home last night, main beam and spotlights on, voltmeter showing 13.7V but heated grips off. Put the heated grips on with the spots and the reg/rec says you've gotta be effing joking..... and drops off to about 12v so switch them of again.
Five minutes later and only about 2 miles from home pffutt. 9.8V and dim lights. Engine remained running so I quickly realised I'm on battery only. Got home and put her to bed.
Checked her out this morning and sure enough, fuse 2 is burned. Cleaned everything up and replaced the fuse and all is well again.
The moral of this story is, ... next time you're in the shed, take two minutes to check out the fuses. Usually all they'll need if anything is a quick wipe. But the 30AMP number two works fairly hard (that's why it's 30 AMP) so needs a bit more care. Like the tank drain, it's one of those things you mean to get round to, but seldom do until you burn something or get water in your tank.
Hmm I'll do that :icon_redface:
well just to be on safe side i have also done away with fuse 2 and done the wiring mod with an in line maxi fuse from the rec/reg direct onto battery as per the how to guide and gained a slight volt increase well happy,i didnt feel happy seeing all that melted platic in my fuse box.
Might want to have a look here as this mod worked great on mine.
http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,13193.msg96864.html#msg96864
May help in the stickies too!!