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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: HeavyHustler on June 22, 2014, 01:12:54 AM

Title: Where's the leak.......
Post by: HeavyHustler on June 22, 2014, 01:12:54 AM
So I'm at the point of finding the mystery leak from the chain cover.  Seems there is more to it than one might think!?!  LOL!  Loads of shit in there, not sure if it's partially an overload of chain wax and oil???  Anyways I decided to order new seals for both the shifter and the clutch push rod......yeah?  And since the front sprocket and chain look exhausted I figure I'll do those as well. 
I sure did find a fixer upper!  LOL!
Plus the fact that once again Triumph has made something more impossible to work than necessary...... :BangHead

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh70/heavyhustler_Treed_Spiple/97%20Steamer/3F97D3AA-A104-4638-B7B1-8B93147A8E1F_zpstre4vizn.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/heavyhustler_Treed_Spiple/media/97%20Steamer/3F97D3AA-A104-4638-B7B1-8B93147A8E1F_zpstre4vizn.jpg.html)(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh70/heavyhustler_Treed_Spiple/97%20Steamer/60B1124F-A289-47B9-B2DB-978ADEAE7001_zpstnd2eyaj.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/heavyhustler_Treed_Spiple/media/97%20Steamer/60B1124F-A289-47B9-B2DB-978ADEAE7001_zpstnd2eyaj.jpg.html)

Side note I added the RAM ball mount for the handle bars.  Easy addition for my SPOT!

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh70/heavyhustler_Treed_Spiple/97%20Steamer/71CB7B0A-2E69-44DC-879A-1C45B1CAD76A_zpsj1smezmq.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/heavyhustler_Treed_Spiple/media/97%20Steamer/71CB7B0A-2E69-44DC-879A-1C45B1CAD76A_zpsj1smezmq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: rybes on June 22, 2014, 09:37:17 AM
just a thought, how often do you lube ya chain and how much crap did  ya clean out ? couldve been excess chain lube drippin ?
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: Sin_Tiger on June 22, 2014, 11:30:48 AM
OT - I'm interested in the SPOT for a planned long solo ride, would you mind doing a short write up on your experiences with it in the Farkles section  :notworthy
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: HeavyHustler on June 22, 2014, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on June 22, 2014, 11:30:48 AM
OT - I'm interested in the SPOT for a planned long solo ride, would you mind doing a short write up on your experiences with it in the Farkles section  :notworthy

I used it on my S3 when I went to AK last summer.  Worked treat!  :wheel

As per chain lube, I use very little and only when needed.  I believe this build up was from the PO's.......

Either way I'll get it all cleaned up, check the chain rubbing guides and move on.
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: HeavyHustler on June 22, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Well I got the chain and sprocket off.  Decided to clean up the chain rub strips.  The lower one you'll noticed is toast!  Ordered a new one.  The other around the swing arm is ok.  I tried to pry it out but only got half way until I gave up.........cleaned the swing arm up and jammed it back on.   :icon_rolleyes:
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh70/heavyhustler_Treed_Spiple/97%20Steamer/1F1C01BD-D0E6-43EB-AE0D-14D111575819_zpsf4xwpibz.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/heavyhustler_Treed_Spiple/media/97%20Steamer/1F1C01BD-D0E6-43EB-AE0D-14D111575819_zpsf4xwpibz.jpg.html)

Nothing comes easy w/ these beasts does it?! :Topes
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: Solon on June 24, 2014, 10:12:25 PM
Did you change the oil seal behind the sprocket as well?
I found great difficulty in removing it, nothing would fit around the edges to pull it out, the only solution I found was to hammer a nail through it and then stick another nail bent like a hook  through the hole to pull it out.
Worked fine, but I managed to pinch the seal of the bearing behind  :BangHead - didn't realize it was so close. I put some silicone on the hole to keep the grease in, hope it works, but it was definitely a bad idea to hammer that nail.

I was wondering if there's a "safer" solution to remove that seal (to know it for the future, at least !)
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: HeavyHustler on June 26, 2014, 06:23:33 AM
ATM not touching it sounds the safest!  LOL!
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: Solon on June 26, 2014, 06:31:42 AM
Thanks, that was really helpful...
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: Mustang on June 26, 2014, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: Solon on June 26, 2014, 06:31:42 AM
Thanks, that was really helpful...
if you didn't like his answer , you'll like mine even less.......... :ImaPoser

"if it aint broke don't fuck with it"



real answer is ...................you are supposed to split the cases to change that oil seal
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: HeavyHustler on June 26, 2014, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: Mustang on June 26, 2014, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: Solon on June 26, 2014, 06:31:42 AM
Thanks, that was really helpful...
if you didn't like his answer , you'll like mine even less.......... :ImaPoser

"if it aint broke don't fuck with it"



real answer is ...................you are supposed to split the cases to change that oil seal

Well I definitely won't doing that! ^  By the looks of the pic I was thinking that the clutch push rod seal might be the culprit....
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: ned37 on June 26, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
rather than a nail, a sheet metal screw works better
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: Mustang on June 26, 2014, 06:44:51 PM
 
Quote from: ned37 on June 26, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
rather than a nail, a sheet metal screw works better
:nod
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: Solon on June 26, 2014, 07:35:06 PM

[/quote]if you didn't like his answer , you'll like mine even less.......... :ImaPoser

"if it aint broke don't fuck with it"



real answer is ...................you are supposed to split the cases to change that oil seal
[/quote]
Well, it was broke, so I had to fuck with it.
I doubt you have to split cases to change the oil seal, maybe you misunderstood me, I know you're never wrong :) . Especially that the service manual says you can do it when you change the sprocket. Just doesn't say how ...  The sheet metal screw sounds like a better idea, a little late for me now.

So no one changed that sleeve altogether with the seal? Seems like a real dog to pull out :( , and the service manual simply says to change when corroded, altogether with the sprocket and seal, with no other hint.
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: Mustang on June 26, 2014, 08:37:54 PM
I'm done ......................
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: HeavyHustler on June 29, 2014, 08:30:44 PM
Thread jackers.....

Man I hate waiting for parts........
Title: Re: Where's the leak.......
Post by: HeavyHustler on July 12, 2014, 12:51:13 AM
Well I got my parts and spent the better part of yesterday and today installing the new chain & sprockets, clutch push rod seal, chain cover gasket, new needles for the carbs, inline Pingel fuel filter, oil change, refreshed hydrolic fluid in the clutch, and general cleaning.
Overall everything went as planned until I got it all back together and ran it..... :icon_rolleyes:
So at some point i had all the info for the T900 on my iPhone in the notes.......somehow I accidentally deleted and could not recover it.  :icon_scratch:
So I forgot what all my settings were for the pilot and mixture........anyways I had them back wards so the bike revved wildly!!!  :bug_eye LOL!
Got back online here and got everything straightened out and all is well.  Test road for a good 30 miles and there were no repeats of the stuttering from before.  :wheel
Unfortunately I forgot to take pics.....
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