I have a 1998 tiger 900 carb model. I had problems starting and traced it to a faulty side stand switch, now replaced. It now starts ok but cuts out when I change from first to second when riding. Any ideas guys and gals ??
I would suspect you still have a fault in that circuit somewhere. Can we take it that it didn't cut changing between other gears?
Hi, nope, just between 1st and 2nd as it passes through Neutral. :^_^
replace the relay
:iagree have a close look at the relay base while you're at it.
Hmm, yes, never thought of that, what am I looking for on the base ?. Corrosion maybe ?.
Yes, that and brittle or cracked plastic fittings that might not be supporting the connections when the relay is pushed in. Look at the cables where they join the spade connections.
Is the neutral switch not a common fault on the steamer? :^_^
Quote from: Geof9116 on February 04, 2015, 11:41:10 AM
Hmm, yes, never thought of that, what am I looking for on the base ?. Corrosion maybe ?.
several reasons they fail,
weak coil which is slow to move/hold the contacts closed or open.............
I've seen the cheap ones triumph uses be filled completely with water ............
contacts burnt out/dirty , like points used to do in an ignition system....................
and the stuff Sin mentioned as well....................
And for my next question.....where do I find this relay and how do I identify it please ?.
up to and including 97's it's under the left rear corner of the fuel tank . it's bolted to the frame backbone with one bolt .
on the 98's ????? they moved it , easy way to find it is to trace the wires back from the side stand switch . it is a 1"(approx.) black plastic cube ,
it may be under the front fairing , but check the wire colors to verify same color as wires on stand switch because there are also a couple of lighting relays under the front fairing that look identical.
I have it stripped down to bare bones, I can't find the elusive relay anywhere
It's right there next to that black thing
:icon_scratch:
look at the right side base of cylinders , see the oil pressure switch ?
follow the wire from the oil pressure switch/sender (pink) to the plug .......
that plug has 1 other wire in it , yep the neutral switch wire (light green w/ white dash)
this wire goes to the relay you are looking for as well as to the green light on the dash
my bikes are in storage or I'd tell you exactly where the relay is on a 98 :icon_frown:
Thanks Mustang. I will take a look in the morning,
I've got a '98, pretty sure it's behind the headlight somewhere.
Thanks GavD. There are two that I can find, one screwed behind the headlight and the other (which was corroded to hell) just above it. The one on the headlight is for low beam and the other, the corroded one is for the high beam as this was not working untill I swapped them. I am off work tomorrow and strip it further. :^_^
Still no relay but upon rummaging through the loom I came across a loose bolt on the starter solenoid. It fired up first time. I also competed a fuel check after spotting water separation in the fuel filter. Hey presto. Problem solved. I just have to check it moves through the gears without cutting out. Fingers crossed. :bowdown
Ok, all fixed. I stripped the carbs today but they seem to be new. Fresh fuel and she purring like a kitten, wel tiger lol. Thanks for all your help guys. Definitely a great forum to be part of.
If anyone is planning a ride near me in the summer beer will be available in casa del Geof. :eusa_clap
As it happens Geoff... I go to visit the family quite a few times a year :icon_wink: where abouts are you? I bet your just around the corner from at least one of them :icon_smile:
I reside in the sunny enclave of West Derby.
If you haven't had the tank off for a real clean out I'd strongly recommend dropping half a tin of profi fuel max into a 25% Full tank and giving it a whack down the road, top carrya 5 litre spare can with you just in case if rides really nice and you want to keep going :wheel
Sorry for misleading you about the relay, my memory must be playing tricks on me. problem I've got now is that I'm fighting an urge to rip mine apart to improve my knowledge of the bike and find out exactly what is behind there. :BangHead
Hey, you never mislead me at all. I even have a part no for the relay and I am sure it was staring me in the face. All symptoms where the same as the loose bolt on the starter solenoid. Just a combination of things. I even found all the carb rubbers to be loose causing a misfire. I have spent all day checking all nuts bolts, cables ect ect. The only problem I have now is that upon replacing the corroded relay for the high beam I can't get any power to it. That will just have to be a job for another day.
Quote from: Geof9116 on February 09, 2015, 06:44:33 PM
Ok, all fixed. I stripped the carbs today but they seem to be new. Fresh fuel and she purring like a kitten, wel tiger lol. Thanks for all your help guys. Definitely a great forum to be part of.
If anyone is planning a ride near me in the summer beer will be available in casa del Geof. :eusa_clap
Come down to the Wales meet! :friday :friday
Where and when my friend ?. I am far too lazy to dig throught the posts to find out lol
Up and coming section, the clue is in the title.....
Thanks Buddy, I have posted my intentions. Can't wait. :wheel
Quote from: Geof9116 on February 09, 2015, 06:59:50 PM
I reside in the sunny enclave of West Derby.
Oh, you're posh... I was born and bred in Bootle - but I did live in Waterloo before coming to North Wales :icon_mrgreen:
Jesus lol, far from posh mate. Even though my post code is West Derby I still live on the border of Stockbridge Village, formally Cantril Farm. Rough as a bears arse lol.
Quote from: Geof9116 on February 10, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Jesus lol, far from posh mate. Even though my post code is West Derby I still live on the border of Stockbridge Village, formally Cantril Farm. Rough as a bears arse lol.
:bug_eye Oh sh*t... in that case we should all meet you at yours to escort you out of canibal farm to go on the Wales trip.
Its not as bad as it used to be though, Woolfall Heath Rd area is much worse now innit?