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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Chassis & Suspension => Topic started by: HockleyBoy on February 27, 2015, 09:52:38 AM

Title: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: HockleyBoy on February 27, 2015, 09:52:38 AM
Its Friday and the sun is shining  :icon_biggrin: so I am going to ask what is probably a stupid question, is there and chance that Street Triple Calipers (see below) will fit a 955 Girly? Has anybody tried them?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Street-Triple-675-Front-Brake-Nisin-Complete-Calipers-/161613802252?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item25a0eeeb0c (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Street-Triple-675-Front-Brake-Nisin-Complete-Calipers-/161613802252?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item25a0eeeb0c)

I only ask because Girly ones are harder to come by and more expensive and there seem to be quite a few Street Triple ones in good condition for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 28, 2015, 10:24:00 AM
Cross checked part numbers on WorldofTriumph and it appears not, at least the part numbers are different, but you never know till you try.  Some breakers will give you seven days grace to try and return...
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Sin_Tiger on February 28, 2015, 01:32:16 PM
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on February 28, 2015, 10:24:00 AM
Cross checked part numbers on WorldofTriumph and it appears not, at least the part numbers are different, but you never know till you try.  Some breakers will give you seven days grace to try and return...

Coincidentally I was looking at the rear caliper on my TTSE yesterday and it looks very similar to the Nissin two pot slider used on the Steamers and on the front of the Bonneviille's, it's unlikely those part numbers will match but I'll be checking.
Might be worth having a word with Trevor at Sprint Engineering or the guys at Triumphant, they will usually know what is cross usable even if the part numbers don't match
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Chris Canning on March 01, 2015, 07:09:13 PM
Most manafacturers do the parts bin special thing so you can bet your life another Triumph made the same year as your will use a similar caliper just a case of finding them,but when you get more than a couple of years away then the chances are they'll need help with some sort of mod or a new carrier.
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: HockleyBoy on March 02, 2015, 10:14:00 AM
Thanks all, will explore this further as one of my calipers is on its last legs following the winter. The calipers do look very similar so I will see if I can find a breaker with a reasonable returns policy and if so give it a try.
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: HockleyBoy on April 02, 2015, 10:36:18 AM
Found that the calipers for the Speedmaster are the same, got a pair off an 09 from a seller in the US for $90. They arrived today, well pleased with them as they are in very good condition.

Just got to put new seals in and get them fitted, a nice job for the weekend!
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: daveb on April 02, 2015, 10:50:11 AM
I bought another caliper off a different model of triumph, unsure which model,

http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,10441.30.html
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: HockleyBoy on April 02, 2015, 10:53:34 AM
Quote from: daveb on April 02, 2015, 10:50:11 AM
I bought another caliper off a different model of triumph, unsure which model,

http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,10441.30.html

Nice, they look like the ones from the Street Triple.
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: daveb on April 02, 2015, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: HockleyBoy on April 02, 2015, 10:53:34 AM
Nice, they look like the ones from the Street Triple.

Possibly? I ensured the slid pins were same distance apart, so I could use the existing brake caliper bracket if needed.  But they were a perfect match.

I serviced the front brakes on a Honda pan European and they looked the same..


http://www.triumphrat.net/tigers-885i-and-955i-mods-and-workshop/202929-brake-caliper.html
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: NeilD on April 09, 2015, 10:20:06 AM
the calipers are all much the same , they're handed and there are differences in pad pins ('our' bonneville has twin pin at one end of bike and single at the other but basically the same caliper!)......picked up a brand new one in the recent parts sale for £24 which will fit my thunderbird sport either on the rear or front right, which was listed for a sprint sport - just need to use my 'slider'..
  for info, there is a 3 piston version of this caliper fitted to some Hondas which seems to be a popular mod for bonnevilles and single disc thunderbirds
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Sin_Tiger on April 09, 2015, 12:34:03 PM
Good news and helpful. First time hearing about the three pot caliper  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: NeilD on April 09, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
Sin, theres quite a lot of info regarding the 3 pot nissins on the Triumph RAT forum, although as is often the case on there you have to sort the wheat from the chaff  :hat10 

heres a link to one thread on there...

http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-technical-talk/281570-nissin-3-pot-front-caliper-upgrade-the-real-deal.html



I'm just in the process of putting a pair of 4-pot Brembos on my Thunderbird Sport  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Sin_Tiger on April 09, 2015, 08:07:31 PM
Thanks Neil. The RAT forum didn't like my yahoo email for some reason, snobs  :icon_razz: , I can read but not search, so it's a drag to find anything. I put a Pretech 6 pot on the Thruxton, massive difference even without touching the master cylinder and on a stock disc. I did wonder if the same could be done on other Hinckley models given the propensity for using modular sourcing.

The Pretech isn't cheap but it's UK made, light, compact and might not be that much more after you've sourced all the other gubbins.

Bet you're looking forward to trying out the Brembo's  :bad always liked the looks of the T bird sport, especially in yellow and black  :love10
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: HockleyBoy on April 10, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
Squaredeals do these 6 pots but they were a bit out of my price range and also not sure how well they would take the winter commuting in the UK.

http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/tiger-955i-billet-mini-6-pot-front-brake-calipers-anodised-silver1-pair-1999-06-tuv-18269-p.asp (http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/tiger-955i-billet-mini-6-pot-front-brake-calipers-anodised-silver1-pair-1999-06-tuv-18269-p.asp)

Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Chris Canning on April 10, 2015, 10:29:14 AM
I've done more than my fair share of tinkering with brakes both on my Tiger and other bikes the Jap 6 pots are no better than the 4 pot although they do look more trick  :icon_wink: the aftermarket 6 pot stuff is really good but don't be thinking you'll get away with running them on stock Triumph disks because they'll eat them alive you'll need proper musical instrument full floaters either Beringers or PFM's.

Bit late in the day now for most but my Beringers must have 35,000 on them at the very least and they are completely unmarked not even the slightest trace of wear lip on the edge of the disc.

Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Sin_Tiger on April 10, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
The HD custom boss like the Billet ones but I have no direct experience.

I just had my Pretec 6 pot off for a spring clean, used a bit during this winter and apart from a build up of brake pad dust (only two pads) and the expected salty crud,  they are completely unmarked and absolutely free of any signs of corrosion. The wear on pads supplied with them is barely measurable and the stock Triumph floating rotor is in superb condition, about 8k miles now, so I'm well impressed.
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Chris Canning on April 10, 2015, 11:08:30 PM
Triumph don't make a floating rotor neither does any other manufacturer that is unless you think because it has bobbins it's floating because it ain't Beringer/AP/PFM and there's an Italian company name escapes me do as well and the reason why manafacturers don't supply them most people would get fed up with the racket they make on rough roads.
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Brother Number One on April 14, 2015, 11:55:41 AM
IIIIIIIII'm thinkin' these are floatin'

http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/tiger-885i--955i-1998-04-ebc-310mm-floating-disc-upgrade-ebc-md601-lsrs-twelve-18mm-ss-disc-bolts-abetuv-1042-p.asp
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Bixxer Bob on April 14, 2015, 12:22:55 PM
I have those on my Tigger.  Chis is correct in that they aren't floating in the true sense of the word.  Proper floating discs rattle on their bobbins whereas these don't.  However, the bobbins do insulate the disc from the mountings and help prevent warping - something the OEM discs are known for.  One thing I did find after I fitted these; they flutter a bit sometimes at slow speed.  The first time they did it was just after I fitted them; I'd braked from about 60mph and was down to about 10 mph at a junction when they did it.  You could feel it through the whole front end.  Scared me witless.  I stopped, checked everything over and could find nothing.  20-odd thousand miles later they still do it.  It doesn't bother me any more but it would be nice if they didn't.....
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Brother Number One on April 14, 2015, 01:43:44 PM
Thanks for that, Bob.  I was thinking about buying a pair but now I'm not so sure.  Would you have another pair?
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Bixxer Bob on April 15, 2015, 04:27:16 PM
Yes, it's not enough to bother about once you know and I've not heard of anyone else having the same problem so it might be just me.  At least with EBC you're getting a known quantity; use matching pads.  If you opt for something off Ebay and you've no idea where it was made.  you could go for some wavey discs I suppose, personal choice at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: daveb on April 15, 2015, 06:36:58 PM
Quote from: Brother Number One on April 14, 2015, 11:55:41 AM
IIIIIIIII'm thinkin' these are floatin'

http://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/tiger-885i--955i-1998-04-ebc-310mm-floating-disc-upgrade-ebc-md601-lsrs-twelve-18mm-ss-disc-bolts-abetuv-1042-p.asp

You could have a look at these guys http://www.blackshadow-uk.co.uk
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: Brother Number One on April 22, 2015, 11:36:52 AM
Thanks for that, chaps.  I love that website, daveb.  It's like it's still 1995  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Brake Caliper Swap
Post by: haggis95 on May 06, 2015, 02:00:37 AM
These can be used for the 00-06 Sprints

99-07 SUZUKI HAYABUSA GSXR1300R OEM LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT BRAKE CALIPER

I wonder if there is anything similar for the Tiger.

A thought - sometimes we think it's the brakes when it's excessive dive from soft forks.

And yes, sometimes it's the brakes.
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