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Title: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 25, 2015, 08:32:54 PM
I would welcome any ideas as to how I could elevate the steamer so as to fit a center stand, suspending from the joists is a non starter as I have no roof, I've done it with a pair of axle stands but could only find the swing arm as a solid enough point for the cross bar - which is no good as I need the suspension to hang... same problem with the paddock stand.
:icon_scratch: what solutions have you guys come up with?
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: threepot on August 25, 2015, 08:39:02 PM
Levitation? :augie
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 25, 2015, 09:04:48 PM
Thanks TP  :icon_rolleyes:

Tried that but me chakras ain't strong enough

Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Nick Calne on August 25, 2015, 10:19:52 PM
I used a big car jack to lift it up until everything was clear and I could fit several large sleepers under the bike.  You need to secure it from wobbling or the bike will fall on you, so improvise some sort of cradle or buttress.  Otherwise you will find out the hard way whether or not you can bench press a steamer off you.  I can, as it transpires, but it was touch and go.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: GavD on August 25, 2015, 11:05:03 PM
Quote from: JayDub on August 25, 2015, 08:32:54 PM
suspending from the joists is a non starter as I have no roof,

No Roof????? So how do you keep all that rain out of the garage???

I do the same as Nick, car jack under the sump then slide under a part of sleeper with a couple more bits of skirting board on to gets me to a height where you can tip the back forward to get the back wheel off the ground.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 25, 2015, 11:33:29 PM
Quote from: GavD on August 25, 2015, 11:05:03 PM
No Roof????? So how do you keep all that rain out of the garage???

I do the same as Nick, car jack under the sump then slide under a part of sleeper with a couple more bits of skirting board on to gets me to a height where you can tip the back forward to get the back wheel off the ground.
What garage!!!

that seems the way to go, I think I'll weld up a frame which I can pack with some wood (don't have any sleepers, and the Blaenau Ffestiniog railway is too far to go to nick some) - but that would surely restrict access to sump bolts for the fixing point for the spring? (SW-Motech stand)
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: tankerman on August 26, 2015, 12:27:01 AM
Couldn't you put some padding, ie old mattress or duvet against a wall and on the floor and lean the bike over onto it's side so you can get at the fixing points. Of course, if you are as old as I am it would be advantageous to have some assistance within shouting/phone distance!

Regards.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Sin_Tiger on August 26, 2015, 12:32:52 AM
What's he going to sleep on then   :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: tankerman on August 26, 2015, 12:35:47 AM
You have to make sacrifices sometimes.

Regards.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: rf9rider on August 26, 2015, 01:23:56 AM
I used a trolley jack and made a simple frame out of wood to fit under the engine.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: tankerman on August 26, 2015, 01:34:14 AM
Actually S-Tiger, could you not lend him a couple of R-Rover seats to lay the bike on?
After all, they aren't Nissan Patrol parts or anything like that, are they!

Regards.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: nickjtc on August 26, 2015, 05:34:04 AM
My memory is not the greatest, but if I recall I did not do anything to elevate the bike when I put the centre stand on my Steamer... just did it on the side stand. Needed some assistance from the SO to hold things in alignment to slide the mounting bolt through, but other than that the bike was on two wheels throughout the operation.

http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,13380.0.html
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Beernard on August 26, 2015, 11:37:20 AM
Well, I'm in with Tankerman. I am a fan of large lumps of foam. Can't fall down. Woo hoo!
I haven't used the technique on my Steamer, but has been pretty handy in the past with different bikes. Pushing some bolts through can be tricky, but it can't fall down.
Good luck with whatever technique you use, but be safe.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 26, 2015, 12:28:28 PM
Quote from: tankerman on August 26, 2015, 01:34:14 AM
Actually S-Tiger, could you not lend him a couple of R-Rover seats to lay the bike on?
After all, they aren't Nissan Patrol parts or anything like that, are they!

Regards.
Oooh! bitchy! thats a kick in the spuds.  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 26, 2015, 12:45:29 PM
I think laying it down would give better access too, but with no engine bars I would be worried about crushing the plastics, as I think removing them would be more work/time on top of not really having the space to do it... I have to work outside on a narrow road, and if a car came along I would be slightly stuffed.
@ nickjtc... are you sure? if I remove the long bolt with weight on the suspension, the link block will push upwards - surely? anyway, in post #3 I see a trolley jack and a piece of wood :icon_wink:
btw, thanks for posting that as it answered all of my questions (except this one of course)
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 26, 2015, 02:22:33 PM
I think I may have struck lucky here... my neighbour has kindly agreed to me hanging the bike from a nice chunky 9x3 joist in his garage!
In return, I shall fabricate a bracket to hang his diving cylinders  :icon_biggrin:
Is there any place on the steamer I shouldn't use as a suspension point? obviously I wouldn't use the rack, and the rear subframe may not be a good idea?
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: ssevy on August 26, 2015, 03:29:14 PM
Mirrors wouldn't be so good.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Mustang on August 26, 2015, 04:07:18 PM
triple trees and subframe work just fine , :nod
for that matter I think the rack should be able to take the weight too.
but a jack stand under each foot peg bracket works marvelous ....................

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/repairs/101_1655.jpg)
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 26, 2015, 06:39:06 PM
Quote from: ssevy on August 26, 2015, 03:29:14 PM
Mirrors wouldn't be so good.
And they're at the wrong end  :icon_lol:

....Mustang, that looks like an accident waiting to happen! :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Mustang on August 26, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: JayDub on August 26, 2015, 06:39:06 PM
And they're at the wrong end  :icon_lol:

....Mustang, that looks like an accident waiting to happen! :icon_eek:
:nono rock solid  :nod
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: GavD on August 26, 2015, 08:10:22 PM
I've never had any  :Topes moments with my sleeper set up, you'll be surprised how stable you can get a bike on blocks/axle stands etc. I changed my shock with it balanced on the sleeper.

I think the mass of a steamer helps, Mr Newton would probably have changed some of his laws if he'd ridden a steamer! :nap

Here's a old pic, when I was doing the Mustang cast wheel conversion on the front, the sleeper is in line with the sidestand pivot.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Sin_Tiger on August 26, 2015, 09:34:20 PM
Quote from: Mustang on August 26, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
:nono rock solid  :nod

At least two bike lift makers use this method  :nod
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 26, 2015, 10:12:34 PM
OK, I'm starting to come around to the idea, but I may suspend it as well  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: nickjtc on August 27, 2015, 02:43:42 AM
Quote from: Mustang on August 26, 2015, 04:07:18 PM
triple trees and subframe work just fine , :nod
for that matter I think the rack should be able to take the weight too.
but a jack stand under each foot peg bracket works marvelous ....................

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/repairs/101_1655.jpg)

It's been mentioned before so it must work!!
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: nickjtc on August 27, 2015, 02:45:54 AM
Quote from: JayDub on August 26, 2015, 12:45:29 PM
nickjtc... are you sure? if I remove the long bolt with weight on the suspension, the link block will push upwards - surely? anyway, in post #3 I see a trolley jack and a piece of wood :icon_wink:

I told you the memory was shot to pieces................ :ImaPoser

Nick
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Beernard on August 27, 2015, 11:36:33 AM
Personally, having recently been a dumb-arse and had to get the lovey-darling to pick my R65 off me, I think safety is paramount. Swing from the suspenders, I say!!!
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 27, 2015, 01:08:18 PM
Quote from: Beernard on August 27, 2015, 11:36:33 AMSwing from the suspenders, I say!!!
:bad... my imagination runs wild Beernard!

I don't mind the sleeper or frame idea, and would be happy to do that but those axle stands just look dodgy... unless I was to weld them together :sign13 :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Mustang on August 27, 2015, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: JayDub on August 27, 2015, 01:08:18 PM
  :blah :blah :blah......... but those axle stands just look dodgy... unless I was to weld them together :sign13 :icon_biggrin:
(http://www.canebas.org/Weather/LWC_forum/Custom_emoticons/chicken_emoticon.jpg)
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 27, 2015, 08:20:25 PM
Quote from: Mustang on August 27, 2015, 06:09:34 PM
(http://www.canebas.org/Weather/LWC_forum/Custom_emoticons/chicken_emoticon.jpg)
:pottytrain2 Right Mustang.... its axle stands at dawn (well, mid morning would be better for me).
I'm gonna use 2 axle stands, (I can borrow 2 more if I feel nervous)... but I'll degrease the areas and may even shove in a couple of bits of rubber so they don't slip  :nod
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Mustang on August 27, 2015, 09:27:22 PM
I can get it up on 4 stands without even using a jack ....................... :nod
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 27, 2015, 10:35:54 PM
Quote from: Mustang on August 27, 2015, 09:27:22 PM
I can get it up on 4 stands without even using a jack ....................... :nod
Now your just showing off  :sleepy1
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: John Stenhouse on August 27, 2015, 10:36:52 PM
 :new_popcornsmiley
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Sin_Tiger on August 27, 2015, 11:01:15 PM
I struggle to get anything up without some blue pills these days  :^_^
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: Mustang on August 27, 2015, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on August 27, 2015, 11:01:15 PM
I struggle to get anything up without some blue pills these days  :^_^
"it used to watch me shave now he just stares at the floor "    :ImaPoser
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: John Stenhouse on August 28, 2015, 12:01:54 AM
 :ImaPoser :ImaPoser :ImaPoser :ImaPoser LMAO
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: nickjtc on August 29, 2015, 07:25:22 PM
Can you say "thread veering more and more off topic...???"  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on August 29, 2015, 09:50:21 PM
I've got the info I need so it would be interesting to see where it could end up  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: steamer 96 on August 30, 2015, 02:04:17 AM
  May I offer my assistance if needed.......    I am only down the road and wouldn't take me long to meander on the bike (complete with Motech stand) and give a hand, or offer my assistance while you are being brutal........ 

      You have my mobile from a previous pm......   Just say


       Mart
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on September 01, 2015, 12:36:20 AM
Quote from: steamer 96 on August 30, 2015, 02:04:17 AM
  May I offer my assistance if needed.......    I am only down the road and wouldn't take me long to meander on the bike (complete with Motech stand) and give a hand, or offer my assistance while you are being brutal........ 

      You have my mobile from a previous pm......   Just say


       Mart
yet another kind offer Mart, thanks.  I'll bear that in mind... But my mate mustang says I'll be fine  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: nickjtc on September 01, 2015, 05:01:48 AM
Quote from: JayDub on September 01, 2015, 12:36:20 AM
But my mate mustang says I'll be fine  :icon_wink:

No problem. It's always fun fettling.............. until the bike comes crashing down on you. In my case fortunately swwbo and stepson were on hand to pick up the pieces.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: JayDub on September 01, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: nickjtc on September 01, 2015, 05:01:48 AM
and stepson
That has to be a cat.
Title: Re: Fitting a center stand
Post by: nickjtc on September 02, 2015, 06:10:28 AM
Quote from: JayDub on September 01, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
That has to be a cat.

No, the cat would fare even less well than me with 500lbs of Steamer leaning on her!!
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