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Title: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on October 27, 2015, 08:46:53 AM
Seems my rear shock has had it. I'm noticing a 'slap' from the back end. Been like that for quite a while,but has got worse recently. Triumph want £571 for a replacement!! :icon_eek: I've seen this make on eBay for £264. Anyone familiar with this make?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: JayDub on October 27, 2015, 02:30:35 PM
(Mmm, you did have Sin on the back at Rhayader :icon_wink:) Have you checked the swingarm/suspension bearings?  I would be tempted to give it a wide berth TP, I found a seller on ebay who will completely rebuild the OEM one for £265ish... you can send him the old unit first, or instead he charges a deposit until he gets one back, I posted it somewhere on here, but can't find it now.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Sin_Tiger on October 27, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
I'd put money on that being an "Asian" budget item judging by the cylinder construction. For that money a Hagon is probably a better bet and they are pretty good with warranties as I can vouch for.

Also I'm less than 76kg straight out of the shower  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: BruKen on October 27, 2015, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: JayDub on October 27, 2015, 02:30:35 PM
(Mmm, you did have Sin on the back at Rhayader :icon_wink:) Have you checked the swingarm/suspension bearings?  I would be tempted to give it a wide berth TP, I found a seller on ebay who will completely rebuild the OEM one for £265ish... you can send him the old unit first, or instead he charges a deposit until he gets one back, I posted it somewhere on here, but can't find it now.

DIY. It's relatively straight forward. I posted a how too a few years back. It's somewhere in here (I'll go take a look)

EDIT. It's in the sticky
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: fishnbiker on November 01, 2015, 06:24:50 AM
Why not try the cheapest fix first? Recharge the Nitrogen reservoir to 100~125 PSI. Next, the suspension & swing arm needle bearings (& seals). You should renew them if putting in a new shock anyways.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on November 02, 2015, 11:19:07 PM
Re charge with Nitrogen,specialist job??
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 03, 2015, 12:39:07 AM
I wonder if Argon would work, know anyone with a TIG kit or a pub landlord?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: ram33 on November 03, 2015, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 03, 2015, 12:39:07 AM
I wonder if Argon would work, know anyone with a TIG kit or a pub landlord?
i think pubs use co2
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: BruKen on November 03, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 03, 2015, 12:39:07 AM
I wonder if Argon would work, know anyone with a TIG kit or a pub landlord?

You stirring the pot Sin?  :ImaPoser You know good old moisture free air does the trick too. Too much faffing about with Nitrogen. What were the benefits of nitrogen  :^_^ Doesn't expand on temp change or heat up under pressure? Something like that. Nitrogen also doesn't froth the oil. But as the nitrogen is in a bladder in the oil reserve I just pump in good old air to 9 instead of 10 bar and the job is a goodun. It's not like I enter the tigger to track day events and I've yet to discern any difference on the suspension which imho is never going to wow anybody on a stock steamer anyway.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: JayDub on November 03, 2015, 08:20:48 PM
Quote from: ram33 on November 03, 2015, 12:46:59 PM
i think pubs use co2
And Nitrogen too - its prevents oxidisation but imitates traditional cask ale.
Or use nitrous oxide... then you'd be laughing!  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on November 05, 2015, 06:19:03 PM
Quote from: BruKen on November 03, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
You stirring the pot Sin?  :ImaPoser You know good old moisture free air does the trick too. Too much faffing about with Nitrogen. What were the benefits of nitrogen  :^_^ Doesn't expand on temp change or heat up under pressure? Something like that. Nitrogen also doesn't froth the oil. But as the nitrogen is in a bladder in the oil reserve I just pump in good old air to 9 instead of 10 bar and the job is a goodun. It's not like I enter the tigger to track day events and I've yet to discern any difference on the suspension which imho is never going to wow anybody on a stock steamer anyway.
Nitrogen doesn't cause corrosion? Anyway,not had a look close up at existing shock,but can it be with air? Think I've seen that done on YouTube?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 05, 2015, 07:30:11 PM
Quote from: BruKen on November 03, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
You stirring the pot Sin? 

Nope, 9 bar of air has got to be better than 0 bar of N2  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: motoOzarks on November 06, 2015, 02:44:36 AM
There's a thread on advrider started where guys are using bacon grease in their shocks.
They have been using forks with bacon for years.


First reports are if you can handle the sizzle and popping at first it makes the ride out smooooooth.






Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Sasquatch on November 06, 2015, 04:22:56 PM
When I am doing a bunch of testing on a shock, I use a small mountain bike hand pump and plain air.  The only benefits of N is the fact it is 100% dry and that it comes in a nice bottle with 2500psi in it that makes it really easy to fill shocks.  Air works just fine and no one will know the difference.  If you live somewhere very humid, having dry N is nice.

Yes, just recharging your shock will help the ride.  But I guarantee you that your shock oil is beyond dead by now.  Shock oil (and fork oil) has a limited life span.  It does a tremendous amount of work even while putting around town and there is not much in there to do it.  It needs to be changed regularly.  I tell my customers that if they want their suspensions to last a good long time service it at 2 year intervals or 25k miles.  I just did a 955i Tiger's forks that only had 12k miles on them and the fluid was horrible.  I service my forks yearly and my shock every other year.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 06, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
We get all paranoid about our engine oil. We should change the brake fluid at least every two years.

So that makes perfect sense to me  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: ynotbiker on November 07, 2015, 12:02:00 PM
ive got a spare came off a 1997.35.000 miler £40 pick up or £50 posted. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: BruKen on November 07, 2015, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Sasquatch on November 06, 2015, 04:22:56 PM
When I am doing a bunch of testing on a shock, I use a small mountain bike hand pump and plain air.  The only benefits of N is the fact it is 100% dry and that it comes in a nice bottle with 2500psi in it that makes it really easy to fill shocks.  Air works just fine and no one will know the difference.  If you live somewhere very humid, having dry N is nice.

Yes, just recharging your shock will help the ride.  But I guarantee you that your shock oil is beyond dead by now.  Shock oil (and fork oil) has a limited life span.  It does a tremendous amount of work even while putting around town and there is not much in there to do it.  It needs to be changed regularly.  I tell my customers that if they want their suspensions to last a good long time service it at 2 year intervals or 25k miles.  I just did a 955i Tiger's forks that only had 12k miles on them and the fluid was horrible.  I service my forks yearly and my shock every other year.

Absolutely. I do mine annually with the annual service which is probably a bit overkill, but then I am a garage addict. Certainly every 3 years as a minimum. Those that don't will be amazed at the difference when they do.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: fishnbiker on December 07, 2015, 10:57:37 PM
Quote from: threepot on November 02, 2015, 11:19:07 PM
Re charge with Nitrogen,specialist job??

Any tire shop that offers Nitrogen fills on their installs or repairs. Supposed to leak less, as no Oxygen (smaller molecule) in the gas. Quite common here on the Wet Coast
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: fishnbiker on December 07, 2015, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: threepot on November 02, 2015, 11:19:07 PM
Re charge with Nitrogen, specialist job??

Most large tire shops here use it, as the N2 molecule is much larger that the O2 in our compressed air mix. Less likely to leak through pores or scratched rims. 100~125 psi is easily attainable with their tanked Nitrogen supply. Much cheaper than the laughing gas or Argon that's used for MIG welding.
Should be free or nearly so.

Sasquatch does a business rebuilding shocks. He did mine a couple years back for about half of those £265 quotes, plus postage. Try connecting with him  ... http://sasquatchrider.blogspot.ca
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Sasquatch on December 15, 2015, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: fishnbiker on December 07, 2015, 11:05:25 PM
Most large tire shops here use it, as the N2 molecule is much larger that the O2 in our compressed air mix. Less likely to leak through pores or scratched rims. 100~125 psi is easily attainable with their tanked Nitrogen supply. Much cheaper than the laughing gas or Argon that's used for MIG welding.
Should be free or nearly so.

Sasquatch does a business rebuilding shocks. He did mine a couple years back for about half of those £265 quotes, plus postage. Try connecting with him  ... http://sasquatchrider.blogspot.ca

Here is my website: www.adventurepowersports.us

BTW, the air you breathe is 78% nitrogen.  Charging extra to fill your tires with N is just another profit builder.  Other than being absolutely free of moisture, you will NEVER see any benefit of N over just compressed air.  No difference in temperature, no noticeable difference in pressure loss, no difference in expansion with temp, but it does make your wallet lighter, thus a better power to weight ratio....... :ImaPoser
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on April 28, 2016, 01:34:51 PM
 YSS shock finally arrived. For a 'mid' priced unit,I'm quite impressed with it. £239 delivered. And 2 yr warranty. Hope to have it fitted before July meet! :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 02, 2016, 03:41:30 PM
Started to fit new shock today,but bearing and sleeve need replacing. Does anyone know what bearing fits? I'm sure I can source one cheaper than what Triumph want? Thanks.
Just searched, NTN HK2020?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 02, 2016, 04:18:19 PM
quick fix?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131637884463 ( think its the same/will fit)

Or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Tiger-885-900-Carb-1996-Suspension-Drag-Link-Drop-Links-/331829608853
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 02, 2016, 04:21:36 PM
Thanks Phil..that should fit yes??
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 02, 2016, 04:22:40 PM
check edit
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 02, 2016, 04:24:59 PM
Repair kit is same

http://www.triumphparts.gbr.cc/index.php/2/190160/
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 02, 2016, 04:28:11 PM
Just bought the t'bird one. Thanks again :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Timbox2 on May 02, 2016, 04:29:16 PM
Yeah Id jump on that above you get all the bearings and sleeves in one, ahh, you have, good find
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 02, 2016, 04:39:34 PM
I think the difference may be lack of grease points, but as a short term fixup, I nearly bought it myself. Hope its ok. Bet its better than your current one....
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: GavD on May 02, 2016, 10:50:16 PM
Calmoto shows the same part number for TBird and Tiger item :thumbsup
http://triumphparts.calmoto.com/p/Triumph_1996_Thunderbird885/Drag-link/43470072/2059300-T0301.html (http://triumphparts.calmoto.com/p/Triumph_1996_Thunderbird885/Drag-link/43470072/2059300-T0301.html)
click the Fitment/Applications tab then click Show More
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 09, 2016, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 02, 2016, 04:39:34 PM
I think the difference may be lack of grease points, but as a short term fixup, I nearly bought it myself. Hope its ok. Bet its better than your current one....
Part came,and fitted Saturday.(thanks again Phil). It was in excellent condition. And has same grease points. Didn't take long to fit everything back. Although I was nearly put out of action after the bike fell on me! Just a slight injury to my hand,and a broken rear indicator :icon_rolleyes: But it has totally transformed the bike! I thought it handled OK before,but it tracks a lovely line in corners now,and handles rough tarmac nicely. :thumbsup
New abba stand next! These 'old 'Hinckley buses are tough as 'old boots'! Thats the 2nd time my tiger has fallen over,and last year my Super3 decided to have a lie down on the garage floor!  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 10, 2016, 12:01:38 AM
Just as well that the owner's pretty tough also  :nap
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 16, 2016, 03:35:41 PM
Hi guys,

I'm dealing with the same thing on my bike. It passed all MOT checks (which where thoroughly covered) but it failed on the rear tire and the rear shock is leaking.

With the price of a good new rear shock is it worth getting mine renovated?

Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 16, 2016, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: threepot on April 28, 2016, 01:34:51 PM
YSS shock finally arrived. For a 'mid' priced unit,I'm quite impressed with it. £239 delivered. And 2 yr warranty. Hope to have it fitted before July meet! :icon_wink:

Hi Threepot,

Where did you buy this one from please?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 16, 2016, 10:03:34 PM
Is the shock fairly easy to replace?

It seems so?

:ear
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 16, 2016, 11:32:17 PM
http://www.bike-revival.co.uk/page1.html

Only been on a couple of weeks,but I'm very happy with it. Hagon also do a replacement,although a little more cost.
It's not difficult to replace. Securely supporting the bike..or not as in my case :icon_rolleyes: is important!! I used a paddock stand at the rear,and jacked under the bash plate. If you can tie the handlebars from a joist,all the better. Or use an abba stand? I would strongly recommend removing the bottom link to inspect. And be prepared to renew bearings?? One of the link bolts pulls up against the exhaust. I managed to prise it away just enough to remove.
I found it easy to put the link back in when the bike was on its side! :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 17, 2016, 12:17:10 AM
Quote from: threepot on May 16, 2016, 11:32:17 PM
http://www.bike-revival.co.uk/page1.html

Only been on a couple of weeks,but I'm very happy with it. Hagon also do a replacement,although a little more cost.
It's not difficult to replace. Securely supporting the bike..or not as in my case :icon_rolleyes: is important!! I used a paddock stand at the rear,and jacked under the bash plate. If you can tie the handlebars from a joist,all the better. Or use an abba stand? I would strongly recommend removing the bottom link to inspect. And be prepared to renew bearings?? One of the link bolts pulls up against the exhaust. I managed to prise it away just enough to remove.
I found it easy to put the link back in when the bike was on its side! :icon_wink:

Hi Threepot,

Great post thank you. From looking at the site I can't distinguish which shock
I'm after?

I'm tempted to replace this my self. I love the sound of the challenge.

I'd have to tie the bike up to the rafters of my garage and wedge up under engine with blocks of wood ! Ha ha !! Once when secure then get to work.

Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 17, 2016, 05:57:29 AM
Z series. Check availability though,I had to wait 3weeks after initially being told 3 days! They are listed on eBay. But again,check delivery!
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 17, 2016, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: threepot on May 17, 2016, 05:57:29 AM
Z series. Check availability though,I had to wait 3weeks after initially being told 3 days! They are listed on eBay. But again,check delivery!

Hi Threepot,

There are actually varies alternatives in the 'Z' range. Do you know the full product code of the one you bought?

Cheers,

Dan

:notworthy
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 17, 2016, 07:46:39 PM
Temporary Fix?

Fit it, then rebuild your original?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351722947733
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: JoeDirt on May 17, 2016, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 17, 2016, 07:46:39 PM
Temporary Fix?

Fit it, then rebuild your original?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351722947733

Even the auction title says it's "grubby". :*&*

Nice one!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 17, 2016, 09:23:21 PM
 :thumbsup
Try  http://www.bike-revival.co.uk
Or http://firefoxracing.co.uk
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 17, 2016, 10:30:47 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on May 17, 2016, 07:48:50 PM
Even the auction title says it's "grubby". :*&*

Nice one!  :thumbsup


Grubby's better than failed.......
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 18, 2016, 11:27:24 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 17, 2016, 10:30:47 PM

Grubby's better than failed.......

Hi Phil,

I totally agree.

Also I'm totally up for renovating the shock I have now. I don't need the bike unless I go away so I could go right ahead and renovate it but I find it hard to gage quite how difficult it would be?

Also the re-pressurising, isn't that a specialist job?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 19, 2016, 12:05:19 AM
I did mine recently. Its a bit messy, but only complicated if your not too mechanically minded. I would not compare myself to the likes of Sasquatch, and I used ATF oil, but my spare is working fine.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 21, 2016, 12:57:34 AM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 19, 2016, 12:05:19 AM
I did mine recently. Its a bit messy, but only complicated if your not too mechanically minded. I would not compare myself to the likes of Sasquatch, and I used ATF oil, but my spare is working fine.

Hi Phil,

My cash opportunities haven't come through so I'm really
Stuck.

I'm mechanically minded to a point and good at  applying my self. I've restored starter motors, taken carbs apart and replaced components as well as other minor bike repairs. With this level of experience do you reckon I'd manage it?

If I renovate it what parts would I need?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 21, 2016, 11:01:02 AM
I'm looking to just get my bike past its MOT for now which it failed due to the current rear shock leaking.

What kind of mileage would I get out of second hand one like this?

Quote from: London_Phil on May 19, 2016, 12:05:19 AM
I did mine recently. Its a bit messy, but only complicated if your not too mechanically minded. I would not compare myself to the likes of Sasquatch, and I used ATF oil, but my spare is working fine.

Hi Phil,

I'm mechanically minded to a point and good
At applying my self. I've restored starter motors, taken carbs apart and replaced components as well as other minor bike repairs. With this level of experience do you reckon I'd manage it?

If I renovate it what parts would I need?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182072305339

Would it be that difficult for me to refurbish my original one?

:icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 21, 2016, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: Danwarb on May 21, 2016, 12:57:34 AM
Hi Phil,

My cash opportunities haven't come through so I'm really
Stuck.

I'm mechanically minded to a point and good at  applying my self. I've restored starter motors, taken carbs apart and replaced components as well as other minor bike repairs. With this level of experience do you reckon I'd manage it?

If I renovate it what parts would I need?

You've had Triumphs before then?? :augie




Only joking! I love them. Wouldn't have any other make! :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 21, 2016, 03:41:50 PM
Tools are most likely to be your biggest obstacle, at least proper ones that won't damage bits or hurt you
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 22, 2016, 01:51:53 PM
Thanks Sin.

That makes it clear for me.

Have any of you got a spare rear shock I can buy off you?



:bowdown
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 22, 2016, 02:58:14 PM
I bought a shock sealhead repair kit and a bump stop, from K-Tech Suspension Ltd, for less than £40, the bladder was ok, and I refilled mine with ATF and air, not suspension fluid and nitrogen. May not be everyones choice, but so far it has been hugely improved, and hasn't yet exploded..
If your in no rush, strip yours out and refurb it.
I must say that Showa branded one on ebay ( later bikes, older are generally KYB) for less than £33 delivered looks like a good quick fix, If I didn't already have a spare, which is actually my original as the spare is fitted now, I'd buy it.
( Sorry cannot sell to you as the one fitted has a seized rebound adjuster, and I damaged the replacement trying to rush to fit it, so I need to refurb my orig now.)
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 22, 2016, 09:45:48 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 22, 2016, 02:58:14 PM
I bought a shock sealhead repair kit and a bump stop, from K-Tech Suspension Ltd, for less than £40, the bladder was ok, and I refilled mine with ATF and air, not suspension fluid and nitrogen. May not be everyones choice, but so far it has been hugely improved, and hasn't yet exploded..
If your in no rush, strip yours out and refurb it.
I must say that Showa branded one on ebay (later bikes, older are generally KYB) for less than £33 delivered looks like a good quick fix, If I didn't already have a spare, which is actually my original as the spare is fitted now, I'd buy it.
( Sorry cannot sell to you as the one fitted has a seized rebound adjuster, and I damaged the replacement trying to rush to fit it, so I need to refurb my orig now.)

Hi Phil,

Thanks for your posts.

Can you give me a link to this Showa branded shock on Ebay for £33 that would fit a Steamer?

I'll then fit this one and look at refurbishing the original.

:ear

Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 22, 2016, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 17, 2016, 07:46:39 PM
Temporary Fix?

Fit it, then rebuild your original?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351722947733
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 23, 2016, 11:13:27 AM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 22, 2016, 09:53:29 PM


Hi Phil,

I'm hoping to find a rear shock with out the second compression chamber to make it a bit easier to fit. I'm not ruling this one one but I don't think I'd receive this one in time to go away this Friday.

Can you give me link to the alternative Showa shock on Ebay please?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 23, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
TBH if your in far enough to get the shock out, the remote reservoir is a few extra moments work.
Search for Tiger rear shock on Ebay, and remember ONLY Steamer specific ones fit, as they have forked lower mount.
Even though the Thunderbird drag link is the same, the shock is side mounted.
I really would swap the existing one for a raggedy one that gets you an MOT, if thats all thats holding you back.
Threepot fitted an after market one, and seems happy, but its something like 8 times the price of the Ebay one.

Can't make the decision for you, doing mine was not difficult, its really a personal thing.

BTW did you get my tank insert?
Regards
Phil
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 23, 2016, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 23, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
TBH if your in far enough to get the shock out, the remote reservoir is a few extra moments work.
Search for Tiger rear shock on Ebay, and remember ONLY Steamer specific ones fit, as they have forked lower mount.
Even though the Thunderbird drag link is the same, the shock is side mounted.
I really would swap the existing one for a raggedy one that gets you an MOT, if thats all thats holding you back.
Threepot fitted an after market one, and seems happy, but its something like 8 times the price of the Ebay one.

Can't make the decision for you, doing mine was not difficult, its really a personal thing.

BTW did you get my tank insert?
Regards
Phil

Phil your such a star.

I'm clear now and have bought this grubby one off Ebay with the remote reservoir. Thank you.

:qgaraduate

I'm happy I now understand that these Tiger rear shocks have a 'forked' end to them. The YSS shocks don't seem to have this so don't get how they fit?

I'm now looking forward to the challenge of fitting this mucky one to get my tiger through the MOT before I ride out for a festival. I also look forward to then renovating my original shock, cleaning it up, replacing the warn parts as you mention and also respraying the spring in bright red before assembling it all.
The only bit I'm not clear about is filling it with new dry air / gas and new oil but I'll get to that I'm some point I'm sure.

:rfl

Now to work out how I'm going to get my bike safely supported (tied up to the rafters in my garage and wedged up with timber) then remove the old shock and wait eagerly for the postman.

:thumbsup
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 23, 2016, 10:59:24 PM
Nobody move . . . I've got a great idea !

:rfl

I've undone the top bolt of the shock and I've noticed the bike dropped and the frame of the bike is now resting on top of the shock.

I'm in a bit of trouble right? When I undo the lower bolt this bike is just going to lower even further, those nylon ropes are going to stretch, probably snap then the bikes going to roll off the chunks of wood I've got under the bash plate and likely fall right !!?

What would you do?

:ear
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: London_Phil on May 23, 2016, 11:18:21 PM
I'd recommend putting the bolt back, and look to get some more suitable stands/supports.
You should remove the tank too, but I think you will need to have a more reliable method of supporting the bike.
Car jack and wood block under engine at the very least.
Before I had the centre stand,  I put axle stands under the front pegs after jacking the rear wheel clear to remove the drag link.
As you can see you will need to do some manual re aligning by levering the back wheel. You need to ensure you bike is stable before it all goes nasty.
I think you have a bit of a Health and Safety issue there, tbh
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 23, 2016, 11:28:30 PM
Can you tie the handlebars to a joist? Place a jack under the rear wheel? I did mine with a paddock stand at the rear,and a jack under the bash plate. As you Jack it up,the link arms align.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 24, 2016, 11:22:31 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on May 23, 2016, 11:18:21 PM
I'd recommend putting the bolt back, and look to get some more suitable stands/supports.
You should remove the tank too, but I think you will need to have a more reliable method of supporting the bike.
Car jack and wood block under engine at the very least.
Before I had the centre stand,  I put axle stands under the front pegs after jacking the rear wheel clear to remove the drag link.
As you can see you will need to do some manual re aligning by levering the back wheel. You need to ensure you bike is stable before it all goes nasty.
I think you have a bit of a Health and Safety issue there, tbh

Threepot, Phil,

Amazing replies thank you.

:bowdown

I've now securely jacked the bike up and using a chunk of wood and plank wedged under the side stand I'm able to keep the bike safe from tipping.

This is where I'm at now . . .

I had to jack the bike up until the rear wheel was clear of the ground to get the old shock out.

Now I can't get the new shock in, it's slightly longer than the previous but only slightly.

What would you guys suggest?

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Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: threepot on May 24, 2016, 11:41:18 PM
Is the Jack preventing the link from lowering? Try it under the bash plate? I would recommend removing that link,and inspecting the bearings etc. Easy to re grease every thing then if its all ok.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: Danwarb on May 26, 2016, 12:32:33 AM
Quote from: threepot on May 24, 2016, 11:41:18 PM
Is the Jack preventing the link from lowering? Try it under the bash plate? I would recommend removing that link,and inspecting the bearings etc. Easy to re grease every thing then if its all ok.

I'VE DONE IT !

Thanks Threepot !

I raised the bike from under the engine block. Then I used a crow bar to gently lever the shock in to place and fiddled the bolts back in before tightening. The links all seem fine and where still seemingly newly greased. My Tiger has only done 11,000 miles which also means the shock I've removed is well worth renovating so I'm looking forward to doing that before replacing it again.
The temporary shock I bought is rusty but the rear suspension it now gives is much firmer so I'm sure my Tiger will now pass it's MOT (with the new tyre being fitted) and it'll get me away to the festival !!!

I'm SO chuffed !!

Thank you to all of you !

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Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: GavD on May 26, 2016, 08:56:56 PM
Dan,

You heading my way for this festival?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: tjmann0 on May 30, 2016, 07:37:20 AM
Just fitted a Hagon rear shock to mine , I have heard of top yoke failure on these but comparing it with the original it's the same size and fittings I can only presume that they have been fitted incorrectly , Anyone else had similar problems ?
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: GavD on May 30, 2016, 01:35:15 PM
I grabbed a second hand Hagon off ebay a couple of years back that was in great condition, didn't look like it'd done much work. They listed it under the part number, not what bike it was for, got for £50........ bargain

It's been fine.
Title: Re: Rear Shock
Post by: ghulst on May 31, 2016, 12:20:29 AM
Have a Hagon under mine. Works great.
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