Ok, I know this sounds weird, but hear me out...
Apparently my Tiger has had damage on the front. I'm not sure what happened, but it probably happened with one of the previous two owners (as I am the third). Anyway, when I got the Tiger, the black back to the dashboard was missing, so I found one in the UK and brought it home with me. When I fitted it, I wanted to see why my speedo no longer had an opening to the side. It turns out the speedo has had its bucket glassed on. Not a very nice thing to do. Anyway, I fitted the black back to the dashboard and left the speedo in there for the next couple of weeks. Fast forward to last Monday and I found a speedo at a very decent price and it is complete. However, it shows a higher mileage than my Tiger is. But I want to fit the speedo as it is completely original and it is very nice. I just want the mileage to show the actual mileage of my Tiger.
How would I go about this?
(Also, if someone has a front frame lying around, I might be interested. And can I get the foam/rubber rings for under the fairing bolts anywhere cheap?)
Not sure if these are tamper proof, but if not, you could buy a replacement speedo cable, insert the proper end in the speedo, and chuck the other end in a cordless drill and then go in whichever direction spins it backwards. Probably illegal, by the way.
Quote from: ssevy on November 21, 2015, 12:13:53 AM
Probably illegal, by the way.
:iagree Although if you have the service records for the bike from the previous owner/s (ratifying the mileage as it is now) you could put the new-to-you speedo on and keep recording the correct mileage in your maintenance log.
Quote from: ssevy on November 21, 2015, 12:13:53 AM
Not sure if these are tamper proof, but if not, you could buy a replacement speedo cable, insert the proper end in the speedo, and chuck the other end in a cordless drill and then go in whichever direction spins it backwards.
I reckoned something like that. I didn't see an easy way to open it to try and change it that way...
Quote from: ssevy on November 21, 2015, 12:13:53 AM
Probably illegal, by the way.
As far as I am aware it is not illegal here to change the speedo for a new speedo and transfer mileage of the original speedo to the new speedo. It would be if I would have the replacement speedo reflect a mileage which is different from the old one and then tried to sell it on to someone. (But as this speedo is 10K ahead of my current one, I wouldn't want to do that.)
Quote from: nickjtc on November 21, 2015, 12:14:56 AM
Although if you have the service records for the bike from the previous owner/s (ratifying the mileage as it is now) you could put the new-to-you speedo on and keep recording the correct mileage in your maintenance log.
I don't really have service logs for the bike. Just pictures of the speedo from when I bought it. There is no scientific way for me to verify that I bought the Tiger with the correct mileage on the clock, but it does look and feel like it is and I do believe the seller was trustworthy. So, I believe the old speedo to be correct. ;) Which means that I would like to keep that mileage that way.
It is illegal (in the UK anyway) to misrepresent the mileage ie try to imply the bike has done less miles than it has, to increase the value. To fit a speedo showing the same miles as the one removed is noticeable only to the person doing it and misleads no-one so in my opinion is ok. In any event, with bikes of this age, condition and service history is more important than miles when deciding a price.
Quote from: ghulst on November 21, 2015, 12:06:13 AM
I just want the mileage to show the actual mileage of my Tiger.
How would I go about this?
I did it for the same reasons (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,10879&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=), must have similar AR genes. Must update that link as the pics has gotten lost.
Nice thread. The speedo is currently attached to my electric drill doing around 100km/h backwards. ;)
This is going to take quite some time... Didn't want to ruin the unscratched bezel... Though I might want to reconsider.
Look for "repairing a fluttering tach" on this thread to see how I opened up and repaired my tach. Bezel friendly!
http://www.triumphrat.net/maintenance-tips-and-tricks-for-the-t3-classics/
Thanks for that.
I am down to the last 800 kilometers now. ;)
So here's a thought, apropos of nothing. Is the speedo assembly/gearing built to take hours and hours of CONTINUOUS operation..... like when changing the odometer? I suppose we'll find out when ghulst gives us the happy news that the mileage is finally correct.
Quote from: nickjtc on November 29, 2015, 01:58:46 AM
So here's a thought, apropos of nothing. Is the speedo assembly/gearing built to take hours and hours of CONTINUOUS operation..... like when changing the odometer? I suppose we'll find out when ghulst gives us the happy news that the mileage is finally correct.
LOL, that is what I have been thinking of a lot. That is also why I only rewind it at around 100km/h. That should keep it relatively stress free. The speedo is able to move around a bit while spinning etc. I guess the proof is in the mounting in this case. Only 300km to go. Hopefully I'll have time to sort it out later this week. No time today and I don't want to overshoot my target mileage. ;)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/29/6b9c41686b81aaed9a97b608aae2c77d.jpg)
Right... So, an image of it going forward and registering 100km/h. Just because I overshot my target mileage. :(
You have a LOT of patience!! :icon_salut:
Quote from: nickjtc on November 29, 2015, 05:30:15 PM
You have a LOT of patience!! :icon_salut:
Or a cable tie around the drill trigger :augie
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 29, 2015, 06:30:39 PM
Or a cable tie around the drill trigger :augie
I wasn't expecting that he would sit and hold the drill, whistling Dixie. :ImaPoser
LOL, nope. For two reasons really. The drill can be fixed in position, which means I don't need cable ties. Oh, and I don't really know much Dixie. ;)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/29/e3857397a2c5b35c2468612553d1b41e.jpg)
So, corresponding mileage on both speedos. Only took a couple of days annoying the neighboring garages. Luckily ours are at the back of the garden, so you don't hear it from the house. ;)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/29/e67ff263ffefeb246837c98313e08cea.jpg)
Spot the difference. Oh, a counter reset thingy! Awesome. Now I'll know beforehand that the tank is going to be empty. ;)
What's Dixie in Dutch?
It isn't translated. It's called dixie here as well. But it isn't that popular. ;)
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 29, 2015, 10:07:58 PM
What's Dixie in Dutch?
I think it's the same the world over :icon_wink:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNtMpPFM7M0
your new one goes to 320 kph .............does it need a different drive to be accurate or can you use the tiger drive .
also some models require the speedo cable to turn opposite direction of Tiger drive .
you may need to find what model the speedo is from and get the correct drive
Quote from: Mustang on November 29, 2015, 10:31:21 PM
your new one goes to 320 kph .............does it need a different drive to be accurate or can you use the tiger drive .
also some models require the speedo cable to turn opposite direction of Tiger drive .
you may need to find what model the speedo is from and get the correct drive
Crap :) Didn't even see that. We'll see. I'll have to calibrate it with a GPS to see whether that works then.
Stupid mistake. Bought it off a guy that had it with a stack of Tiger parts, so we both assumed it was a Tiger part...
Quote from: Mustang on November 29, 2015, 10:31:21 PM
your new one goes to 320 kph .............does it need a different drive to be accurate or can you use the tiger drive .
also some models require the speedo cable to turn opposite direction of Tiger drive .
you may need to find what model the speedo is from and get the correct drive
So you could've mounted it to the bike and then watched it wind itself down??? :ImaPoser :ImaPoser :ImaPoser
It's the middle of the night here now, but I almost feel like rolling out the Tiger to check it.
Do it man do it
LOL, nope, sorry. Got some stuff to arrange and then to bed, because my first meeting tomorrow is at 8am...
Ok, with dark, rainy and very stormy days, plus a busy schedule and some flu thrown in for good measure, I haven't had a chance to check the speedometer up until today.
So, I rolled the Tiger out of the garage for its maiden run with the new speedo and it took some time to start it up. Well, no fuel in the carbs etc. after three weeks of doing nothing, so that is explainable. After I did get it fired up, I mounted my iPhone with my Hitcase on the handlebars and rode off. And...
Nothing.
Nothing moved for at least 150 meters after which, all of a sudden the speedo came to life and worked absolutely fine. Apparently the connection for the Tiger is exactly the same as for the Sprint 900 that I figure this speedo comes from. So, it gives the correct speed, it counts the mileage fine and so you know exactly when you are speeding. *ahem*
So, if ever your speedo packs in and all you can get is a Sprint 900 speedo. Go for it. It also makes your Tiger the coolest on the block, as people will look at the speedo to see how fast it will go. Well, mine will do 320km/h now. ;)
Quote from: ghulst on December 12, 2015, 12:14:53 PM
So, if ever your speedo packs in and all you can get is a Sprint 900 speedo. Go for it. It also makes your Tiger the coolest on the block, as people will look at the speedo to see how fast it will go. Well, mine will do 320km/h now. ;)
That's just shy of 200mph... I think you'll have to check the weather first and get a good start in the Alps. :wheel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=louFRE4vwHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=louFRE4vwHY)
It's tempting to do just for the fun of it :icon_mrgreen: please post a photo of that. Not at 200 mph of course :nono
I have yet to ride it over 180km/h... :icon_rolleyes:
Crap, now the whole thing has packed in. :( It does not show any speed when I ride. Any tips on quick checks what my problem is? I guess pull it off the speedo and turn the wheel to see whether it spins, right?
Any other suggestions?
When it happened on mine it was the drive 'gearbox' in the front hub that had messed up. The cable was fine.
broken cable :nod
Absolutely no reaction or sporadic or very very low?
None at all
Most likely on the drive side, speedo gear wear normally gives some indication before it goes totally.
Had this onmy old Yamaha once, it was just the square drive on the cable inner not quite pushing home in the speedo. Also had it once on an old Suzuki trail bike, the cable had sheared just behind the square drive.
Ok, went to take a look at it tonight. Did it the only way I know how... By disassembling way to much of the front of the bike. Anyway, the cable was in the speedo and the top had not broken off. So, to determine how the underside was fairing, I wanted to pull the cable out of the drive. However, in complete stupidity, I decided that taking the wheel out would probably be easier than removing the fender. Oh well, lessons learned and all that. It is a terrible ordeal to put the disks back into the brake calipers when the bike is standing on the ground.
Anyway, when I had the cable out, I could turn the bottom end of the cable without the top end rotating. I also tested the drive and that worked fine. Problem solved. Now I just need to order the part. ;)
Every day is a day at school :qgaraduate
On the positive side, nothing serious or expensive :thumbsup
Nope, I was surprised at how cheap a new cable is. Only €11 including postage. That's a nice change. :)
Make sure that you got the drive ring tabs located in the drive slots.... It's easy to mis-align them :icon_redface:
Thanks. I have. I actually pulled the whole assembly out to rotate it by hand and to check if it worked. Just wanted to make sure. ;)