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Title: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: tech141 on May 04, 2016, 12:32:04 AM
Howdy Good Folks!  I just picked up some driving lights to mount on my 98 Tigger.  I have pored over the electrical schematics for the bike and haven't been able to find an auxiliary plug to hook them up.  Am I missing something?  I read 'somewhere' that there is a switched Aux plug on the harness, but have since brain dumped the source.
  If there isn't one, where have folks been hooking their aux driving lights up to?  I do have a few ideas, but don't enjoy 're-inventing the wheel'.

Thank You in advance for any info you can provide.

Mike
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: JayDub on May 04, 2016, 11:00:34 AM
There's no switched aux plug on a steamer AFAIK.
Mine are wired direct to the battery via a relay switched from the main beam circuit (high/low switch out-put).
I don't know what your vehicle regs are over there, but here aux driving lamps should only be on with main (high) beam
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: tech141 on May 04, 2016, 12:46:45 PM
Quote from: JayDub on May 04, 2016, 11:00:34 AM
I don't know what your vehicle regs are over there, but here aux driving lamps should only be on with main (high) beam

We don't have the "high Beam" restriction.  I have always had my driving lights on whenever I was in the saddle.  The more Bright-Azz lights I have on, The more chance I will be seen by the cagers.  We still suffer from the "But Officer, I didn't see him...." excuse whenever someone takes out a motorcyclist.  I have always tried to do everything I can to remove the possibility of not being seen.

Have a Great Day!!! :wheel
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: JayDub on May 04, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
In that case Mike, instead of switched by the high beam circuit, take a switching feed from an ignition source via an on/off switch?
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: nickjtc on May 04, 2016, 03:40:42 PM
I use the headlight power source with a switch to turn them on and off. I like to be in control of when I have the extra lighting oomph, rather than having them on all the time.
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Mustang on May 04, 2016, 04:06:32 PM
the absolute BEST way is with switched RELAYS

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run heavy gauge wire like 12awg from the battery (or to keep the battery terminals clutter free use the battery side of the fuse box feed ) to the newly installed relay #30
continue with the 12 gauge wire to the lights from #87
the relay is going to have 4 pins on it like this or similar
(https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/PwnE0E7um2ls_4L6WAWDFA--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NTYwO3E9OTU7dz02MTA-/http://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/user/Driving_light_relay_wiring_diagram.png)
ignore where it says 12volt from headlight
this is your wire from switch , use 16 or 18 gauge wire for #85 and #86
feed your switch from anything nearby where you mounted it in fairing .
for example one of the 12 volt wires that go to the instrument lights works fantastic .
bada bing done
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: BruKen on May 04, 2016, 05:54:44 PM

To the board:


What is the W consumption of the bike vs alternator output? If I recall correctly there wasn't much spare capacity. May be worth the OP verifying before committing to an additional burden.
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Mustang on May 04, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
It's got more reserve wattage than a girly   :bad

steamers have a 300 watt alternator or 25 amp

both headlights are sucking up 110 watts / 120 on high beam add another 50 or so for tail lights
that's about it for any significant constant wattage drain
I would'nt run electric clothing with aux lights at the same time
or blast 500 watt stereos from the sidecar

but the steamer can handle a set of 35 watt driving lights all day long .............................albeit they will dim down at idle with your foot on the brake  :mut
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: BruKen on May 04, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
Ah!  :>< One for the steamer then. HOWZAT!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: ssevy on May 04, 2016, 07:27:40 PM
I replaced my headlight bulbs with LED's and have LED aux lights as well. I run a heated jacket and gloves only, and have had no issues. I am interested to see what my voltage monitor is going to show me in real time once I have it installed.

Also, I love my Motobatt battery, as it has dual terminals, which makes hooking up accessories really easy and clean. Not sure if any other brands also have dual terminals, but it is a handy feature on an otherwise high quality battery.
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 04, 2016, 08:08:25 PM
 :iagree My expresso maker (I sh1te you not Sir) will dim the lights at idle unless I switch the heated jacket off, wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: nickjtc on May 04, 2016, 09:59:19 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on May 04, 2016, 08:08:25 PM
:iagree My expresso maker (I sh1te you not Sir) will dim the lights at idle unless I switch the heated jacket off, wouldn't worry about it.

Does it come with a cup holder too? :*&*
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 04, 2016, 10:48:19 PM
Quote from: nickjtc on May 04, 2016, 09:59:19 PM
Does it come with a cup holder too? :*&*
Of course  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: threepot on May 04, 2016, 11:17:44 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on May 04, 2016, 08:08:25 PM
:iagree My expresso maker (I sh1te you not Sir) will dim the lights at idle unless I switch the heated jacket off, wouldn't worry about it.
Do you have to turn up the idle when your frothing the milk? :augie
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: nickjtc on May 04, 2016, 11:27:24 PM
Do you have a cooler on board too so that the latte milk won't spoil?
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 04, 2016, 11:51:34 PM
Quote from: nickjtc on May 04, 2016, 11:27:24 PM
Do you have a cooler on board too so that the latte milk won't spoil?

There's plenty of power, don't milk the puns   :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Mustang on May 05, 2016, 12:44:16 AM
to the OP :
You see how $hit works around here Mike ?

basically you got your answer within a few posts and then the (http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/emoticons/TrainWreck.gif) happens ............................... :ImaPoser
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: nickjtc on May 05, 2016, 01:16:30 AM
It's only cos we love each other so much  :thumbsup And have nothing better to do.

But getting back on topic. I am surprised that the Steamer system has as much juice. Especially for non-motorcycle specific uses. I suppose I should really do some research and see what the system on the 1050 is capable of.
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: ssevy on May 05, 2016, 04:08:02 AM
The new tigers can light a small city. Not sure why they have so much capacity, but I suppose more is sometimes better?
I also run my CPAP machine directly off my battery, but only at night when I'm mot actually riding :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: tech141 on May 05, 2016, 05:18:31 AM
I wasn't worried about the current draw on the battery, but thanks for bringing it up.  These lights only pull 1.5 amps.  LED technology and all that.

  Thanks for all the replies.  I enjoyed perusing them.
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: tech141 on October 28, 2016, 05:12:07 AM
Howdy Folks!!!,  I thought I'd dig this up and post a few pics of the LED bar.  I mounted it under the main headlights using the 2 outside bottom fairing bolts.  It's only 18W, but is veddy shiny.  I'm not relying on it for path illumination, but as a "HEY, I AM HERE SEE THESE BRIGHTAZZ LIGHTS!!!" sort of thing.  I'll be installing some actual LED driving lights on the engine guards in the near future for seeing farther down the road.  Any hoo, here ya go.  Comments both Pro and Con are welcomed.


(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/tech1411/1998%20Triumph%20Tiger/1_zpsf2n5ebaz.jpg)


(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/tech1411/1998%20Triumph%20Tiger/2_zpsfmfuf4bp.jpg)


(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/tech1411/1998%20Triumph%20Tiger/3_zpsdoadnyem.jpg)



Have an Outstanding Evening!
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Sin_Tiger on October 28, 2016, 11:04:21 AM
18W is a decent amount of power  :icon_eek: interested to see how that looks from a distance in the dark, when you get a chance.
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: tech141 on October 28, 2016, 03:11:36 PM
Maybe tonight, if I remember.
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: tech141 on October 29, 2016, 05:14:59 AM
OK!  Took a few pics of it at a distance tonight.  The farthest pics were from 100ft (That's 30.48 meters for youse guys across the pond :icon_mrgreen:).  The camera shows a blurred bright blob at a distance, but it really is more defined than that in reality.  The second pic is more like it looks in person.  Anyhoo, all comments, pro and con, are welcome.

  I hope everyone is having an Outstanding evening!

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/tech1411/1998%20Triumph%20Tiger/7_zps9pzavitq.jpg)

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/tech1411/1998%20Triumph%20Tiger/9_zpsnli5pm2q.jpg)

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/tech1411/1998%20Triumph%20Tiger/6_zpsqciibj3p.jpg)

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/tech1411/1998%20Triumph%20Tiger/8_zpszv16grua.jpg)

Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Sin_Tiger on October 29, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
 :icon_cool: thank you
Title: Re: Auxillary power plug on 98 Steamer????
Post by: Beernard on October 29, 2016, 10:52:13 AM
Ta. Looks like a good mod. I don't choose to ride at night real often, but your added capability can only be good. Looks cool too!
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