Ok, so another problem follows the previous ones...
Apparently I have some loose connections to the ignition lock. Any idea if I can take it apart and how to do it?
On the Girlies there is a fairly common issue with one of the cables going to the ignition switch parting company and requiring resoldering, a green cable from memory, whether its the same issue on Steamers though???
Is there someone who can tell me how I can get the cap off at the bottom so I can access the wiring for the lock?
Please?
Any tips on how to get the top triple off? I have loosened the nut, loosened the four bolts holding the fork legs, but it won't move. :(
plusgas or wd40,run it round the top join and leave to soak through. could you get a screwdriver or small wedge in the gap between the ends of the clamp to open them slightly??
have you slackened the screws right off,maybe you need to give another full turn??
my sprint has a bottom yoke bolt which only moves about half a turn but it is still enough to remove the fork leg,I did use the plusgas trick though
I can spread the clamps with screwdrivers and the bolts are just about completely out. However, I get next to no movement around the center, where I have removed the nut. It almost seems as if it is still held back by something underneath.
So, the first episode of the "let's fix the ignition" saga...
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The ignition lock closes over these two squares. I guess they are for the steering lock, but they're annoying.
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As you can see they stick out enough that you have to rotate the top triple almost 180 degrees to get it off.
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Unfortunately that means taking most of the bike apart. :( I have been lazy and have only lowered the fork legs. I'm sure I'm going to regret that when it's time to put everything back together.
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Anyway, the triple is off now. Next time it's time to drill and open it up.
Ok, I'm never enthusiastic about drilling out bolts, but it had to be done.
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So it was time to get everything set up. I had read that a locksmith tip was to drill a hole, then push in a slightly bigger Allen key. However, obviously that didn't happen. Can't have all the luck, right?
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But, it worked.
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Time to pull the cap off and take the rotator out.
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Then there is the black bit with all the wiring. So that had to come out.
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And then it goes up to the rest of the lock.
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When we stripped the wiring the break was easily spotted. After a bit of soldering the whole thing could be put back together.
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And then it worked again.
So I put the Tiger back together again tonight. Haven't ridden it yet, but everything seems fine.
Good luck arne
Thanks Nick! It all seems to work fine, just don't have the time for a test run today. :(
Quote from: ghulst on September 04, 2016, 02:20:29 PM
It all seems to work fine
Right...
But it doesn't.
Last night, I had the engine turn over a couple of times, just to see if that worked. Which it did. Then tonight, I decided to do a quick run to check everything. Needless to say, I never rode away from the garage. The engine turns over, the carbs get fuel. I have enough power as the lights are on, it turns over etc.
But it doesn't start. :BangHead
Any suggestions on what to check next?
You left the cat sleeping for too long and now you have to flush it's internals to wake it?
I dunno but it seems everytime I need to wrench something on the bike it wants me to clean the carburetors after to get it running.
My favorite shortcut is to turn off the fuel, drain the carbs and then turn on fuel again. Let sit for 2min before try to start. Needs 4-7 turnovers before it splutters to life. Works 7/10 times for me.
That's if everything really is alright and you didn't forget to put a sparkplug connection or something back on.
Carbs are fine. I am thinking it is probably an electrical connection somewhere, but this is very frustrating.
Any tips on how to measure what on the Tiger's electrics? I need to get this cat back on the road.
jumper connection for alarm?
You gotta work back from the plugs now. Spark?
Quote from: London_Phil on September 05, 2016, 08:43:27 AM
jumper connection for alarm?
Sorry Phil, but what do you mean?
Ok, so I pulled the front off again and found that when I tapped the connector, it started right up again. And not just once. I switched it off, restarted it, rummaged with the wiring and it kept on working.
Having said that, I am now still doubtful about the connection, so I have pulled the ignition apart again and am going to recheck all the wires and the connections and resolder them where needed. It will work. ;)
Tonight I found out that you cannot reassemble a lock when it is still in the triple. When I did, the thing locked up, then fell apart. Oh well. So, the whole disassembly story started again. And now that it is back together again, I noticed that I have mistakenly put the clutch cable (well, hose really) on the wrong side of the fork legs... I am not sure wether I am going to drop the fork legs again, or whether I am just going to take the hose off, run it on the right side and replace the clutch fluid.
Oh well, at least I won't be bored any time soon...
(Oh, but it starts at first try now.)
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Decided to just drop the fork legs this morning to sort out the hose. New personal record. 30 minutes to remove the fairing, lower the fork legs, rerun the hose, then put the whole thing back together again. Not bad. Too much practice I recon. ;)
But it runs great again.
A couple of days later, I pulled onto the highway and the throttle cable broke. Luckily it was relatively easy to find one and get it sent over to me. At first they said it might take a week or so, but luckily I found one on the other side of the country and they were willing to send it to me.
Unfortunately, you need to pull the carbs out to replace the cable again. :( Oh well, just another evening of wrenching on the Steamer.
By the way, the difference is striking. The cable had a lot more resistance on it than I thought.
Cheer up. They say the first four years of steamer ownership are the most maintenance intensive, after that it is not so bad. :nap
Hahahahaha, well, these were all things I could hardly blame on the bike. I can blame them on the designers though. ;)
(And I bet you will have replaced everything in those four years. ;) )