Hi gurus.
Could anyone ensure me that Wilbers shock will never allow my center stand touch the ground?
Now I'm riding on the stock shock and that is OK, until I fill all three cases with stuff and take my wife with me to a run. In this case I'm loosing all clearance and sometimes on bad roads I'm starting to scratch the ground.
I already replaced original stock for the same reason for a new one (almost not used from Ebay) and it seems that it's simply too weak for our roads.
Is anyone had this problem already?
Quote from: Vampyre on August 29, 2016, 02:05:37 PM
Hi gurus.
Could anyone ensure me that Wilbers shock will never allow my center stand touch the ground?
Now I'm riding on the stock shock and that is OK, until I fill all three cases with stuff and take my wife with me to a run. In this case I'm loosing all clearance and sometimes on bad roads I'm starting to scratch the ground.
I already replaced original stock for the same reason for a new one (almost not used from Ebay) and it seems that it's simply too weak for our roads.
Is anyone had this problem already?
I had a similar problem with some aftermarket shocks on my Bonny. It's not the shock absorber I found was the issue but the spring. When I replaced it with a stronger spring had no more troubles.
Quote from: Vampyre on August 29, 2016, 02:05:37 PM
Hi gurus.
Could anyone ensure me that Wilbers shock will never allow my center stand touch the ground?
Now I'm riding on the stock shock and that is OK, until I fill all three cases with stuff and take my wife with me to a run. In this case I'm loosing all clearance and sometimes on bad roads I'm starting to scratch the ground.
I already replaced original stock for the same reason for a new one (almost not used from Ebay) and it seems that it's simply too weak for our roads.
Is anyone had this problem already?
Contact Wilbers(or others) with your weight in your riding gear and the same for your passenger and estimate the weight of the luggage it will transform the bike.
Yep, my Tiger came with a Hagon on it and was regularly bottoming out and grinding the centre stand, not even leaned over much. Since I put the Wilbers on its never got close even well loaded up and as far over as my skill allows.
Quote from: Timbox2 on August 29, 2016, 05:50:54 PM
Yep, my Tiger came with a Hagon on it and was regularly bottoming out and grinding the centre stand, not even leaned over much. Since I put the Wilbers on its never got close even well loaded up and as far over as my skill allows.
what was your Wilbers setup? Did you order hydraylic preload or height adjustment? I really don't want to pay 800-1000 Eur for a full setup because it will be half of my Tiger's price:)
Quote from: Vampyre on August 29, 2016, 08:38:31 PM
what was your Wilbers setup? Did you order hydraylic preload or height adjustment? I really don't want to pay 800-1000 Eur for a full setup because it will be half of my Tiger's price:)
Hydraulic preload yes,(Almost obligitory on a Tiger) but nothing else , £620 from memory. Forget about what your bikes worth, with decent suspension it will handle better and feel more comfortable than most new bikes, and after 2 or 3 years you wont loose that much if you flog it on.
I blame that Canning bloke, ruined me for ever having a stock suspension bike again :icon_lol:
Look at the Dutch Hyperpro as well assuming you can handle the purple spring!! I've just checked the listing and it's not there American suspension end Sas maybe along with more info I'm sure he still supplies them.
Quote from: Chris Canning on August 29, 2016, 10:02:35 PM
I've just checked the listing and it's not there American suspension end Sas maybe along with more info I'm sure he still supplies them.
Sorry, my English is not so good so I completely don't understand this passage:)
Btw, I checked Hyperpro official site and they don't make shock absorbers for my 885i:(
Quote from: Timbox2 on August 29, 2016, 09:57:07 PM
Hydraulic preload yes,(Almost obligitory on a Tiger) but nothing else , £620 from memory. Forget about what your bikes worth, with decent suspension it will handle better and feel more comfortable than most new bikes, and after 2 or 3 years you wont loose that much if you flog it on.
I blame that Canning bloke, ruined me for ever having a stock suspension bike again :icon_lol:
was it type 640 or 641 with remote adjustment?
Quote from: Vampyre on August 29, 2016, 11:11:39 PM
Sorry, my English is not so good so I completely don't understand this passage:)
Btw, I checked Hyperpro official site and they don't make shock absorbers for my 885i:(
There is a guy on here(this site)that sells Hyperpro an American but as I said and so have you its not listed on the official site.
Quote from: Vampyre on August 29, 2016, 11:19:12 PM
was it type 640 or 641 with remote adjustment?
The 640 will do it doesn't have the remote reservoir but all depends on how bad your roads are and how far you travel two up.
I had a clear out of my photobucket account a few weeks back so this is mine with Ohlins but Wilbers are just as good if not better.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h185/wing2541/2014-10-07%2017.49.40_zpseomj3i9s.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/wing2541/media/2014-10-07%2017.49.40_zpseomj3i9s.jpg.html)
This will give you some idea with us two up in full kit and that Givi that I can hardly pick up my center stand has never been on the floor and that's with sticky tyres and a smaller front wheel.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h185/wing2541/313_zpsgu1ojhil.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/wing2541/media/313_zpsgu1ojhil.jpg.html)
Quote from: Chris Canning on August 30, 2016, 05:17:46 PM
I had a clear out of my photobucket account a few weeks back so this is mine with Ohlins but Wilbers are just as good if not better.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h185/wing2541/2014-10-07%2017.49.40_zpseomj3i9s.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/wing2541/media/2014-10-07%2017.49.40_zpseomj3i9s.jpg.html)
This will give you some idea with us two up in full kit and that Givi that I can hardly pick up my center stand has never been on the floor and that's with sticky tyres and a smaller front wheel.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h185/wing2541/313_zpsgu1ojhil.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/wing2541/media/313_zpsgu1ojhil.jpg.html)
Well, I often travel like this:) in the speedbag my wife's equipment and all three cases packed so full so I had to jump on them to close
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Cant see piccie???
Quote from: Timbox2 on August 31, 2016, 08:02:34 AM
Cant see piccie???
stupid Google photo
Now?
(https://scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14063466_1724392374489343_4182327_n.jpg)
So long as you have some idea of the weight you are carrying Wilbers will build you a shock no problem.
fitted Wilbers alround on my 955 and am stunned at the difference it has made to the bike, like riding a new one :thumbsup
cheers Spud :thumbsup
well, I decided to try a cheap way first. There is a company in my city that produces custom springs, so I dismounted it from the shock and handed it to them. I'm thinking to ask for 30-40% of additional hardness.
50 Eur against 1000, seems a great deal for me :mut
Quote from: Vampyre on September 09, 2016, 12:31:15 PM
well, I decided to try a cheap way first. There is a company in my city that produces custom springs, so I dismounted it from the shock and handed it to them. I'm thinking to ask for 30-40% of additional hardness.
50 Eur against 1000, seems a great deal for me :mut
Hi Vampyre, got to be worth a try, doesn't it??? Hope it works out for you, do let us know the outcome, please?
Quote from: thebiglad on September 09, 2016, 12:38:50 PM
Hi Vampyre, got to be worth a try, doesn't it??? Hope it works out for you, do let us know the outcome, please?
No problem:)
I actually have 2 original shocks, both with a dead spring so I'm going to choose one with a better state and install new spring to it. And we will see.
UPDATE:
Well, guys, it seems that cheap way works. A week ago I got my new spring, manufactured for me for 80 USD for 2(!) springs (they produce springs only from 2 as they more car oriented), 30% more harder than stock with increased thickness of the spring but reduced coil count.
The bike became obviously harder and higher. Can't wait to get my luggage on and check it more properly, but 0 celsium outside:(
I have changed the spring on my Ohlins(twice) but it's all about controlling that spring and unless you have upgraded your damping to control it then what you end up with what is on par with a kids pogo stick.
Our Ohlins went belly up in Spain a couple of years ago and we rode from Zaragoza to Bilbao just on the spring with zero damping which on the motorway was OK,but any attempt to ride at a decent pace on a normal road was just dangerous because I never knew what the shock was going to do.
But if money is the priority it should work of sorts just be very carefull because when the shock warms up the spring will be running the show instead of the damping.