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Title: My fuel tap
Post by: bemusedinsojo on November 11, 2016, 05:49:59 PM
This is my fuel tap. Is it normal for the smaller tube to be collapsed like that? Also, something is rolling around in the tank. Does anyone have an idea of what it is? I can't seem to catch sight of it. Thanks for your replies.
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 11, 2016, 08:10:29 PM
There shouldn't be anything rolling around in the tank, get it out and see what it is. Also a good time to give the tank A GOOD clean out, don't forget to check the drain pipe.

It's not unusual for the nylon strainers to collapse. You can clean them and put them back but in my experience, after they've collapsed once, they do it again much more readily. So, two choices, put new strainers on, not sure if you can still get genuine or you might find other suppliers or my personal recommended method would be to bin them and fit a good quality external filter between the tap and the carbs. If you go with the external filter, removing the final filter hidden in the hose just before the T piece into the carbs is similarly recommended.

Search on the subject in the Steamer section for plenty of details on this subject.
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: London_Phil on November 11, 2016, 08:18:41 PM
Agree with Sin on that. Had two rides last year out to a Rally no probs, back from Rally, died after 20 miles, fuel starvation. Pulled both screens off and haven't looked back. Of course our petrol with added extras causes carb problems, but at least now the fuel gets a far as the carbs...
I to had something in my tank, but I knew it was  a tank cap mounting bolt, as I dropped it in myself.

Regards

Phil
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: bemusedinsojo on November 11, 2016, 09:56:26 PM
Thanks gents. I'll remove the strainers. Speaking of the one between the carbs, is it in the fuel line itself or is it supposed to be external? I'm afraid that is a question with an exquisite lack of knowkedge but I am not the sharpest pencil in the box.
Thanks,
Lynn
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 11, 2016, 11:47:57 PM
It's a fair question, it's stuffed inside the actual hose, unless it's already been removed.
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: bemusedinsojo on November 12, 2016, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 11, 2016, 11:47:57 PM
It's a fair question, it's stuffed inside the actual hose, unless it's already been removed.
It is gone. I just checked. Now to banish the other strainers.
Thanks.
PS how can I tell what size the carb jets are?
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: London_Phil on November 12, 2016, 09:28:02 AM
The jets should have the number stamped on them, either the top, or on the side, just below the slot for the screwdriver.
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: Geoff W on November 12, 2016, 08:37:29 PM
I found a data security chip rattling about in mine. It was glued in about 15 years ago and forgotten about, I replaced it on the underside of the tank.
I replaced my internal filters with an external one, the only problem I find is that if I run dry and have to switch to reserve, the bike dies and takes ages to get going again, with lots of spluttering and dying from fuel starvation. Even after I fill the tank it is still unhappy for quite a few miles. But I have no problem if I switch to reserve before I need to, only if the bike starts uttering on main supply. Not sure what is happening here.  Any ideas anyone?
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: bemusedinsojo on November 12, 2016, 09:19:43 PM
Quote from: Geoff W on November 12, 2016, 08:37:29 PM

I replaced my internal filters with an external one, the only problem I find is that if I run dry and have to switch to reserve, the bike dies and takes ages to get going again, with lots of spluttering and dying from fuel starvation. Even after I fill the tank it is still unhappy for quite a few miles. But I have no problem if I switch to reserve before I need to, only if the bike starts uttering on main supply. Not sure what is happening here.  Any ideas anyone?

I don't know but a good question in case I run into the same problem.
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 13, 2016, 12:50:46 AM
Sounds like an airlock Geoff. Try repositioning your filter so that the inlet faces directly up, the trapped air should clear easier that way. I've find that some filters are better than others, perhaps a different type or make.

Wonder if the security chip still works after years in petrol  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: tonytiger on November 13, 2016, 07:07:58 PM
Geoff take the tap of and try bowing compressed air through it [open and reserve settings] might work might not.
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: JayDub on November 13, 2016, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: Geoff W on November 12, 2016, 08:37:29 PM
I found a data security chip rattling about in mine. It was glued in about 15 years ago and forgotten about, I replaced it on the underside of the tank.
I replaced my internal filters with an external one, the only problem I find is that if I run dry and have to switch to reserve, the bike dies and takes ages to get going again, with lots of spluttering and dying from fuel starvation. Even after I fill the tank it is still unhappy for quite a few miles. But I have no problem if I switch to reserve before I need to, only if the bike starts uttering on main supply. Not sure what is happening here.  Any ideas anyone?
I had the exact problem on a different bike once, in that case it turned out to be a flake of paint settled on the reserve outlet  :nod
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: kenny junior on November 14, 2016, 04:07:53 PM
mine was like that. I had an air lock on reserve so the bike would splutter and cut out on reserve. When i took it off to push it back out i did flick petrol in my eye so please be careful of that and not do it right in front of your face like i did
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: London_Phil on November 14, 2016, 05:08:25 PM
Please ensure your airlock is treated by a Triumph trained mechanic.........That's one in the eye for home mechanics eh......


Sorry    :augie
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: bemusedinsojo on November 14, 2016, 06:01:59 PM
Quote from: London_Phil on November 14, 2016, 05:08:25 PM
Please ensure your airlock is treated by a Triumph trained mechanic.........That's one in the eye for home mechanics eh......


Sorry    :augie
:rfl
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: Geoff W on November 14, 2016, 08:03:25 PM
The filter has the inlet at the bottom and outlet at the top. It always looks to me like it has very little fuel in it, just enough to fill about 1/4" of the filter if that. I will try a new filter as this one has been on for over a year. Might try a slightly more expensive one as this one was as cheap as chips.
Title: Re: My fuel tap
Post by: Beernard on November 22, 2016, 09:47:41 AM
Hi All,
Just a thought here re fuel taps. I have bought several bikes (including my Tiger) that had a defective Reserve and let me down on the first attempt to use it (very inconvenient). Upon inspection, the Reserve circuit of the tap was clogged. Easy clean, but I imagine that there is a reason. Perhaps the PO rarely used the Reserve. As the Reserve circuit drains from the very bottom of the tank, so (especially if no internal filter exists - like my Tiger), it naturally collects crud. Therefore, I now regularly switch to Reserve on all my bikes whether I need to or not - to keep the circuit clean. Has worked well for some time.
Also the attached pic may help someone with external filter set-up.
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