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Title: Alternative engines
Post by: kenny junior on November 24, 2016, 04:54:33 PM
With the lovely weather we are experiencing in the north of England at the moment and a manual choke and carbs, I do slightly envy the roadies and beakers with fuel injection and auto choke which got me wondering;

What is the easiest engine with these modern luxuries to fit in the steamer frame and is there one that is almost a bolt in?
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: Timbox2 on November 24, 2016, 06:46:13 PM
Quote from: kenny junior on November 24, 2016, 04:54:33 PM
With the lovely weather we are experiencing in the north of England at the moment and a manual choke and carbs, I do slightly envy the roadies and beakers with fuel injection and auto choke which got me wondering;

What is the easiest engine with these modern luxuries to fit in the steamer frame and is there one that is almost a bolt in?

Seriously??  No such thing I suppose as cant be done, but with that old spine frame nothing will be easy. Buy a Girly mate, almost as infuriating as a Steamer but with injection, job done :ImaPoser
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: JayDub on November 24, 2016, 08:54:27 PM
I'm sure I heard someone had converted their steamer to EFI using Triumph parts, but I agree with Tim as either way, you'll  lose a lot of the steamer character anyway... so wouldn't you just end up with a more awkward version of a Girly? with steamer handling?  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 24, 2016, 10:20:45 PM
There was a guy in Turkey that did it and posted it up somewhere but he was an electronics whizz and made his own ECU. I did toy with the idea of making one with MEGAsquirt but decided it wasn't one of my smarter ideas  :augie
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: kenny junior on November 24, 2016, 11:06:37 PM
Thanks fo the replies, I assumed there wouldn't be an easy choice and if I was going to spend any money (unless an engine was £200) it would be on a deposit on an 800xca. It was more curiosity than anything else
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 25, 2016, 12:25:09 PM
What if's are fun but unless you have spare folding, time and lots of patience, they can be a slippery slope.

Now where did I put my measurements for that 1050 with SS swing arm  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: John Stenhouse on November 25, 2016, 12:32:05 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on November 25, 2016, 12:25:09 PM
What if's are fun but unless you have spare folding, time and lots of patience, they can be a slippery slope.

Now where did I put my measurements for that 1050 with SS swing arm  :icon_scratch:


I prefer the Thruxton, what were you saying? Oh Yes.......... :augie
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: ssevy on November 26, 2016, 12:43:38 AM
My steamer runs beautifully in all temps from the low 30's F to the high 90's F. Not sure what issues you are having, but I think Triumph dialed in the carbs on these bikes pretty darned well.
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: threepot on November 26, 2016, 01:55:28 AM
I've noticed my bike cranks over a bit longer to start from cold now the weather's turned colder. It could be due to the cut in the airbox I've done? Leaving in bit more air?? But runs nice after.
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: Chris Canning on November 26, 2016, 09:30:02 AM
As opposed to the oil is thicker and the battery struggles a little more in the cold  :icon_wink: non of mine struggle regardless of mods the garage is the same temp as the rest of the house which is 18/19c.
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: threepot on November 27, 2016, 01:32:31 AM
Could be Chris? Oh for fuel injection!! :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: kenny junior on November 27, 2016, 11:16:13 AM
I have definitely had a couple of moments of carb icing/engine cooling after long jaunts on motorways which leaves it idling rough and needing to adjust the choke again or risk spluttering when pulling away.
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: JayDub on November 27, 2016, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: kenny junior on November 27, 2016, 11:16:13 AM
I have definitely had a couple of moments of carb icing/engine cooling after long jaunts on motorways which leaves it idling rough and needing to adjust the choke again or risk spluttering when pulling away.
sounds like it's running weak, have you checked the plug colour? or maybe the wrong grade plugs are fitted.
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: kenny junior on November 27, 2016, 02:14:47 PM
Just fitted new ones. It only does it in really cold temperatures and when siting at speed for a while which obviously cools the engine quite a bit. I have changed the thermostat as well
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: tonytiger on November 27, 2016, 04:15:22 PM
are you getting enough fuel to your carbs could be petrol tap or tank
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: kenny junior on November 27, 2016, 07:12:46 PM
Yeah this is literally only a problem in 3 degrees (ish) or below. I genuinely thought it was a common thing that carbs play up in cold weather and manual chokes need constant adjustment to keep the bike fueling right in these conditions, it seems this is not the case by all your reactions. Always happy to learn
Title: Re: Alternative engines
Post by: Timbox2 on November 27, 2016, 07:25:22 PM
Ive not heard of Hinkley Triumphs being prone to carb icing, Kawasakis yeah
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