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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: ghulst on March 13, 2017, 03:03:18 PM

Title: Enlightenment
Post by: ghulst on March 13, 2017, 03:03:18 PM
Weight is one of the things I find a downside to the steamer. Are there any suggestions, or best practices to lighten the steamer? If I could lose 20kg of dry weight, that would make all the difference to the bike, I would think.

There are some conditions...

- It has to give at least the same amount of wind protection
- It has to keep its range
- It shouldn't cost a huge amount

Suggestions?

(I am considering options. I mean, my steamer is a '93 and the trouble with it is that they are now kept out of a series of French cities for environmental reasons because they are too old. So, the question is whether I can make it good enough/better to keep it, or should I sell it now that it can still access all of the Netherlands and people forget about France and environmental rules. -I do work trips there.-)
Title: Re: Enlightenment
Post by: London_Phil on March 13, 2017, 03:13:29 PM
Exhausts are a major weight area.
I removed my originals due to baffles rotting out, and replaced with S/S Venoms.
I was surprised at the weight difference, the oems were V heavy.
I'm not sure how you could make a bigger, one shot,  weight saving, that wouldn't involve turning it away from the Steamer we all love.
RE emissions, I bought an XC for the same issue, among others, with London becoming prohibitively expensive for regular trips.
No exceptions for bikes.
Will be possibly putting the OEMs back on if Sin has any success rebaffling them, so my Venoms may be up for grabs,  possibly.

Title: Re: Enlightenment
Post by: Nick Calne on March 13, 2017, 07:01:14 PM
I'm on the same journey with mine.  Exhausts are the biggest weight saving, and so high up, which is what really matters.

Never do anything because of the French.
Title: Enlightenment
Post by: ghulst on March 13, 2017, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: Nick Calne on March 13, 2017, 07:01:14 PM
Never do anything because of the French.
Well, if it helps the business. ;)
Title: Re: Enlightenment
Post by: Nick Calne on March 13, 2017, 10:58:17 PM
Well OK, but consider it an exceptional circumstance!  :icon_lol:

Title: Re: Enlightenment
Post by: Sin_Tiger on March 15, 2017, 07:57:51 PM
As above +

If you have crash bars they could come off.
If you have a centre stand that could come off in favour of using a portable stand for maintenance.
Use an aftermarket shock, they'll be lighter than the stock one with the remote reservoir.
Swap the standard battery for a lithium one.

That's all I can think of without - a) taking bits out of the engine, b) using titanium disc screws and sprocket nuts, c) picking up an angle grinder  :bad
Title: Re: Enlightenment
Post by: Beernard on March 16, 2017, 10:03:57 AM
How about taking a leaf out of the historic racer handbook? Get a nice, sharp quarter inch drill bit and drill the shit out of anything that looks like it can handle it! :wings
Nah, just kidding.
I, too, am having a crack at reducing weight as my bung knees are struggling at times to hold my Steamer up (with the occasional pathetic failure!). The most significant thing I have been fortunate enough to do is replace the full exhaust system with a Remus 3-1 (T509, T300?) that I bought for a pittance off Oz Fleabay. That necessitated the removal of the bashplate, but I figure that this is a roadbike - in my hands, anyway! The original exhaust weighed in at 10 kilos and the Remus at 4 - and it is low-slung. Still tuning, but running OK. Haven't weighed the bashplate yet.
A big part of my thinking was to piss the cans off so I could more easily hang soft luggage over the seat, rather than stack stuff up high. But, of course, I actually miss the sound (can't have everything!).
This has, as always, come with its own complications and is in its early days. If the mod proves successful, I can let you know.
Good luck in your endeavors.
PS beware of doing anything you can't undo.......
Title: Re: Enlightenment
Post by: ghulst on March 22, 2017, 10:27:02 AM
After a 1200km run, I am considering moving bikes again... Perhaps getting something lighter on the side. ;)
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