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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: cba191 on June 07, 2017, 07:58:05 PM

Title: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 07, 2017, 07:58:05 PM
 :BangHead

Had half a tank left, so I stopped to top it off. Won't start back up it sounds like it does when the kickstand is down.  Any ideas while I wait for AAA?
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: London_Phil on June 07, 2017, 08:11:46 PM
Had similar problems with a Steamer, poor connection inside the switch. Try working the sidestand up n down multiple times, possibly spray wd40 down it if you can access it??
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 07, 2017, 08:19:04 PM
Sprayed it down. Worked it. Still nothing. WAS is on the way, which is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Timbox2 on June 07, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
I can never remember this properly, but Is it that if the engine turns but doesnt fire its sidestand switch, if engine wont turn at all its clutch switch?
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 07, 2017, 09:06:24 PM
I'm wondering if the fuel pump took a dump
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Misterplant on June 07, 2017, 11:24:11 PM
Have to agree with my learned colleagues-sounds like a short circuit,probably a cut out switch,maybe ignition-try giving the switch wires a good waggle around,you never know....just the bleeding obvious thought..you havnt caught the kill switch by accident? We've all done it at some point.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 08, 2017, 07:51:53 AM
There isn't any sound from the fuel pump when I first turn the key. That's where I'm leaning at this point.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Misterplant on June 08, 2017, 11:09:57 AM
starting from the beginning..you turn the key and you get the idiot lights come on? No sound from the fuel pump but does the engine turn over?
If your convinced it's the fuel pump,lift the seats and check the pump relay to start with,from memory it's the one nearest the front located near the fuse box.it should click when you turn ignition on/off.
Also check the pump electrical connector left side of tank which should be possible while you have the seat off,just in case of corroded contacts or dodgy wires.
Fuses all good?
the more information you can provide,the easier in theory it gets to rule out what it ain't!
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: VABird on June 08, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Seen it too many times. The kill switch can have a small amount of corrosion. It comes apart pretty easily to check & clean.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Chris Canning on June 08, 2017, 02:16:04 PM
Quote from: cba191 on June 08, 2017, 07:51:53 AM
There isn't any sound from the fuel pump when I first turn the key. That's where I'm leaning at this point.

What does that mean?? 'first'

I'd look at my recent post about my relay.

I could turn my ignition on press the start button and it would turn over but not fire,turn the ignition on count to 3 the lights would go brighter and the fuel pump would prime then it would fire and some times it stop running altogether a new relay has transformed it.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 08, 2017, 06:51:38 PM
I'll check the relay.
Idiot lights come on. Starter starts cranking, but it seems as if no fuel is getting to the motor.
I just need to get the bike out of the uhaul and into my garage.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Ossian on June 09, 2017, 12:30:06 PM
Something similar happened to mine about a year ago. When I went to restart the bike after refuelling, everything checked out OK, lights, action, pump etc. but it would not run. Turned out to be a faulty CPS of all things.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Chris Canning on June 09, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
Quote from: cba191 on June 08, 2017, 06:51:38 PM
I'll check the relay.
Idiot lights come on. Starter starts cranking, but it seems as if no fuel is getting to the motor.
I just need to get the bike out of the uhaul and into my garage.

If you look at the other thread I could turn the ignition on and the motor would turn over but wouldn't fire,if I turned the ignition on counted to 3 the lights got brighter and you could hear the pump prime and it would fire and it also had a habit of stopping when it felt like it.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 09, 2017, 04:17:06 PM
Link to thread?
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 10, 2017, 03:21:19 AM
I went to start it today, and it fired right up. I'm going to look into that relay issue.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Misterplant on June 10, 2017, 08:50:35 AM
Just a random thought-do you have an alarm fitted?
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Chris Canning on June 10, 2017, 09:41:07 AM
Quote from: cba191 on June 09, 2017, 04:17:06 PM
Link to thread?

It's at the top of Electrickery
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Chris Canning on June 10, 2017, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: Misterplant on June 10, 2017, 08:50:35 AM
Just a random thought-do you have an alarm fitted?

Not bloody likely  :icon_frown:
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Misterplant on June 10, 2017, 10:24:05 AM
Not you Chris,lol,I was asking Cba about alarm.i vaguely remember some cases of alarm signals messing about,  notably on certain garage for courts.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 10, 2017, 07:13:48 PM
No alarm. Just auxiliary lights and a hardwired GPS.  I upgraded the stator and rectifier a couple years ago, as well.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Misterplant on June 10, 2017, 08:10:55 PM
Not the alarm then lol.so...when you got it out and it started,did you hear the pump prime?  I'm still liking a dodgy wire connection.waggling the bars around loading and unloading could well have remade a connection.id try waggling the wiring to see if it replicates the problem.
Intermittent problems are the worse-you know its going to happen again but when?!
I've just done a major overhaul of my wiring as part of general electrical repairs and found quite a few corroded connections and a couple of nearly rubbed through wires,and your tiger is even older than mine,lol
Btw,I did a road trip 3or4 years back from salt lake going through Utah,Wyoming,Montana,Dakota etc.
I'd love to come back and do the canyons,you have a lovely slice of the world. :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 10, 2017, 10:48:53 PM
I listened to the starter. I heard it prime, so tried it. It fired immediately. One thing I forgot to mention was the smell of gasoline when it was in the truck. It was pretty strong.
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Timbox2 on June 10, 2017, 11:45:00 PM
Quote from: cba191 on June 10, 2017, 10:48:53 PM
I listened to the starter. I heard it prime, so tried it. It fired immediately. One thing I forgot to mention was the smell of gasoline when it was in the truck. It was pretty strong.

You might want to check the fuel line couplings on the side of the tank
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Misterplant on June 11, 2017, 08:42:17 AM
Aha,timboxs suggestion is a sound one-check your couplings-I take it you've got rid of the plastic ones and got metal replacements?but another out there suggestion.blocked fuel cap venting/breather hose.
Just filled up with fuel,then nothing,but now ok,still could be an electrical fault,but I'm changing my bet.
I think a road test might be in order if you can't find anything else or feel brave.might take a few miles,but if it happens again,pop the cap to release the vacuum.should then restart and definitely point to the culprit. :nod
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: Misterplant on June 11, 2017, 08:47:53 AM
I forgot to say-if the couplings are ok,that's the clue.the smell of fuel iin the truck was the vacuum locked tank gradually forcing out vapour under pressure!
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: London_Phil on June 20, 2017, 10:22:54 AM
Any Updates??
Title: Re: Stranded.
Post by: cba191 on June 20, 2017, 10:45:38 AM
haven't had a chance to mess with it yet
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